90% of the time I am in Guild Wars, I am playing my monk in an Alliance Battle. As we all know, there are some people out there who still do not understand what '4-4-4' means; and so usually the teams are intertwined from the get-go.
My idea is simple: Redesign the party panel for PvP so that it displays all 11 of your team mates and their HP levels. You could either make a second party panel (maybe open/hide it with 'ctrl-P') or make an expandable section (such as when doing a mission with Prince Rurik or other NPCs) and include the other 8 players on your team. You can basically copy the original party panel with people within mini-map range having white names and out-of-range characters being grayed out; heck even display conditions.
Just my .02, I'm sure there are some members here who would like to see this added to other parts of the game besides ABs.
*Off Topic*
It would also be nice to have a little blue/red arrow on the mini-map that points to your teammates when they are out of range so you know where they are. Just something subtle like the mission objective pointer in PvE.
Broaden PvP Party Panel in AB
Snugg
Tyla
Why are you staring at the party panel as a Monk when you should be concentrating on the field?
canto
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Why are you staring at the party panel as a Monk when you should be concentrating on the field?
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\If u knew anything about playing a healing monk, u would know that it is SOOOOOOOO much easier to note ur party's hp on it, rather than ceparately looking at feild. U glance at the feild, but the party box is a mmuch easier way.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by canto
\If u knew anything about playing a healing monk, u would know that it is SOOOOOOOO much easier to note ur party's hp on it, rather than ceparately looking at feild. U glance at the feild, but the party box is a mmuch easier way.
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How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk.
Div
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Originally Posted by canto
\If u knew anything about playing a healing monk, u would know that it is SOOOOOOOO much easier to note ur party's hp on it, rather than ceparately looking at feild. U glance at the feild, but the party box is a mmuch easier way.
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I always lol when things like this happen.
And no, that's a bad suggestion. Lrn2monk.
Trevor The Wave
more heal party imo.
MithranArkanere
Vizunah Square
Unwaking Waters
Alliance Battles
In all those cases, allies should appear under the Allies section in the party panel.
Now that the panel is collapsible, let's take advantage on that.
Unwaking Waters
Alliance Battles
In all those cases, allies should appear under the Allies section in the party panel.
Now that the panel is collapsible, let's take advantage on that.
Snugg
Monks are usually behind their team so they are not often attacked; during battles I will watch my party panel for their health, and every now and then glance back at the field to note our position and act accordingly. If I see that I am being attacked (by my hp dropping, curses/hexes or whatever) I will focus on the field as well (about 50/50). But it is much easier to watch the party panel than it is to click on a single player in an 8-person bar fight 
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Ekelon
Bring back 12-player party windows please.
N1ghtstalker
so like
all 3 teams get a number and all players come in one the same screen with their number
so it would look like this:
player a 1
player b 1
player c 1
player d 1
player e 2
player f 2
player g 2
player h 2
player i 3
player j 3
player j 3
player k 3
i'd love to see this to make monking easier in AB
also finding your team will be much easier
/signed
all 3 teams get a number and all players come in one the same screen with their number
so it would look like this:
player a 1
player b 1
player c 1
player d 1
player e 2
player f 2
player g 2
player h 2
player i 3
player j 3
player j 3
player k 3
i'd love to see this to make monking easier in AB
also finding your team will be much easier
/signed
Necro Quink
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
so like
all 3 teams get a number and all players come in one the same screen with their number so it would look like this: player a 1 player b 1 player c 1 player d 1 player e 2 player f 2 player g 2 player h 2 player i 3 player j 3 player j 3 player k 3 i'd love to see this to make monking easier in AB also finding your team will be much easier /signed |
Always looking into the field to save another partymember of the luxon/kurzick isnt easy. Especially when the group is mobbing. you cant see who is dying.
/signed
Randvek
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Errr...what?
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk. |
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Errr...what?
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk. |
its AB he does not need to watch for a spike in AB. (most people in ab bring crap on top of crap so a prot monk is useless you can heal just fine with healing prayers in AB)
Tyla
@Above 2 posts -- You see them occasionally. And either way, it isn't only spikes you should be looking for. Taking notice of the field anyway is key.
Molock
So, basicly restore the original party menu? Umm, I don't really care as monking in ab is pretty much impossible anyway... (2 teamates kiting away from you in opposite directions ftl)
HawkofStorms
So... people are idiots and don't know how to 4-4-4. How is that surprising? It's AB for crying out loud. People are stupid.
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I D E L E T E D I
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Why are you staring at the party panel as a Monk when you should be concentrating on the field?
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/signed
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Randvek
Such a noob comment, I expected more from you. How many spikes do you see in AB? No, really. Go play for a day. Let us know.
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Concentrated damage spikes (e.g. getting caught 8vs4, etc), often.
Nevin
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Originally Posted by canto
\If u knew anything about playing a healing monk, u would know that it is SOOOOOOOO much easier to note ur party's hp on it, rather than ceparately looking at feild. U glance at the feild, but the party box is a mmuch easier way.
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Why are you staring at the party panel as a Monk when you should be concentrating on the field?
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NamelessBeauty
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Errr...what?
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk. |
2nd, players = human. Play game = for fun. Not like it will effect the rating of the guild or winning more in AB will give you another exclusive emote!
3rd, the map is way too big for caring too much about that!
4th, learn how to say something more constructive than suggesting something out of what you so call "Oh I'm good at the game."
To OP: The prob with this is that the party panel will be quite big. Some people like me doing more than 1 thing at the computer use Window resolution for GW. It will be quite annoying.
The other problem is that most players in AB that is not in your team = random people you never know before. It will be tough to see who is next to you that need a heal. Map is too big. Beside after death, they will ressurect and it will even make it almost impossible to heal even with the 12-man party channel.
That mean I really don't think it will improve or make any different!
Shayne Hawke
Put the other eight players listed under your Allies tab.
/signed, even though it wouldn't make ABers any smarter.
/signed, even though it wouldn't make ABers any smarter.
Alleji
Not as necessary as the OP puts it (you should be mainly looking at the field), but is still a useful addition imo.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Nevin
Calling you out on the fact that both of you are wrong. A smart monk knows how to monitor the field and keep the health bars of his party in his ever watchful peripheral vision.
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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty
1st of all, it's Alliance battle. Noone care about that.
2nd, players = human. Play game = for fun. Not like it will effect the rating of the guild or winning more in AB will give you another exclusive emote! 3rd, the map is way too big for caring too much about that! 4th, learn how to say something more constructive than suggesting something out of what you so call "Oh I'm good at the game." To OP: The prob with this is that the party panel will be quite big. Some people like me doing more than 1 thing at the computer use Window resolution for GW. It will be quite annoying. The other problem is that most players in AB that is not in your team = random people you never know before. It will be tough to see who is next to you that need a heal. Map is too big. Beside after death, they will ressurect and it will even make it almost impossible to heal even with the 12-man party channel. That mean I really don't think it will improve or make any different! |
2 - I maximize my fun by maximizing my play. The better I play the more fun.
3 - What? It's actually an advantage to viewing...
4 - You should be looking at the battlefield regardless of what profession you are playing.
Edit: Jumped the bullet on spikes there, but either way, you should be looking at the battlefield regardless.
Risus
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Errr...what?
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk. |
. I'm jk. You need a balance of both, but good monks can STOP spikes (look at the movement of the (1) person, and trace it to one of ur party members).
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike?
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Nevin
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
There are health bars above the characters on-screen.
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Necro Quink
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
its AB he does not need to watch for a spike in AB. (most people in ab bring crap on top of crap so a prot monk is useless you can heal just fine with healing prayers in AB)
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Originally Posted by Nevin
I'm sorry, I must be wrong. All monks play with the party menu on hide.
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*edit*
Second quote
newbie_of_doom
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Errr...what?
How will looking at health bars 24/7 save you from a spike? You should be looking at positioning more than health bars in the P menu as a Monk. |
Cebe
I think as a compromise, you should have the ability to collapse the other two teams in the party window.
To be honest, if you're looking at the party window for people who have red bars going down, and you can see everyone, I wonder what the propensity will be to click on someone who is getting beaten on miles away...and end up running half way over the map to heal without thinking about it.
When I Monk in AB, I try to stick with my team, and if I come across another team, and someone is taking a beating, I'll help out if I can. I find the party window annoys me now...it's just something to clutter up my screen.
Having the option is never a bad thing, but I wouldn't want to be forced into seeing everyone else's health bars, when I am only interested in my team's.
To be honest, if you're looking at the party window for people who have red bars going down, and you can see everyone, I wonder what the propensity will be to click on someone who is getting beaten on miles away...and end up running half way over the map to heal without thinking about it.
When I Monk in AB, I try to stick with my team, and if I come across another team, and someone is taking a beating, I'll help out if I can. I find the party window annoys me now...it's just something to clutter up my screen.
Having the option is never a bad thing, but I wouldn't want to be forced into seeing everyone else's health bars, when I am only interested in my team's.
Red Sand
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
When I Monk in AB, I try to stick with my team, and if I come across another team, and someone is taking a beating, I'll help out if I can.
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
Having the option is never a bad thing, but I wouldn't want to be forced into seeing everyone else's health bars, when I am only interested in my team's.
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/signed
JoeKnowMo
Wouldn't be a bad idea to have the other teams show up under "Allies." I end up clicking on the wrong player often when they're bunched up.
Taisayacho
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Originally Posted by Tyla
There are health bars above the characters on-screen.
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/notsigned
I've thought about this before, but I decided it would just encourage mobbing, which = fail. don't flame.
Red Sand
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Originally Posted by Taisayacho
I decided it would just encourage mobbing
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/unsigned
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Sleeper Service
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
I think as a compromise, you should have the ability to collapse the other two teams in the party window.
To be honest, if you're looking at the party window for people who have red bars going down, and you can see everyone, I wonder what the propensity will be to click on someone who is getting beaten on miles away...and end up running half way over the map to heal without thinking about it. When I Monk in AB, I try to stick with my team, and if I come across another team, and someone is taking a beating, I'll help out if I can. I find the party window annoys me now...it's just something to clutter up my screen. Having the option is never a bad thing, but I wouldn't want to be forced into seeing everyone else's health bars, when I am only interested in my team's. |