Eye of the north.. Hows the character progression?

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Iceyx
Ascalonian Squire
#1
I'm bored, and thinking of grabbing eye of the north for fun. I have a few level 20s, but got bored of them simply because of the lack of character progression once you hit max level.

So with EOTN being ONLY high level, what are they doing for character progression here? Do you get at all stronger, or are you simply doing dungeons without character advancement?

Or is it just the old formula of
1)hit 20
2)Buy max damage weapons
3)play the rest of the campaign without
character advancement, but magnified to include the entire campaign
Online Gamer
Online Gamer
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
there is no further character advancement, just new areas to explore and play through as well as heroes you can unlock
rose of zg
rose of zg
Ascalonian Squire
#3
dungeons and Titles ;D

eotn is fun
Lady Syve
Lady Syve
Frost Gate Guardian
#4
No, the formula is pretty much the same. You hit 20, get max weapons/armor, and go kill things. But really, you're playing the wrong game if all you want to do is watch your numbers constantly go up. Guild Wars is supposed to be a game where everyone is on equal footing and you have to use you skill and knowledge of the game to create builds that can overcome various obstacles.

You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.

Edit: I suppose there are titles you can work on, if that fits into your definition of character advancement.
cosyfiep
cosyfiep
are we there yet?
#5
level 20 is your max level---you will never get higher than that.
The game is about what you do once you get there, not about getting there.
(the plane ride to your vacation is NOT your vacation---what you do once you get there IS)!
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Iceyx
Ascalonian Squire
#6
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
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Enko
Forge Runner
#7
this game doesn't even really start until level 20 (with the exception of prophecies which you won't make lvl 20 until around the desert) . ..
rose of zg
rose of zg
Ascalonian Squire
#8
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Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
lol but at level 20 the game starts ...titles and skills heroes and pets

Hall of Monuments .....and party time animal companion

pvp and ...
Konig Des Todes
Konig Des Todes
Ooo, pretty flower
#9
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Originally Posted by Lady Syve
No, the formula is pretty much the same. You hit 20, get max weapons/armor, and go kill things. But really, you're playing the wrong game if all you want to do is watch your numbers constantly go up. Guild Wars is supposed to be a game where everyone is on equal footing and you have to use you skill and knowledge of the game to create builds that can overcome various obstacles.

You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.

Edit: I suppose there are titles you can work on, if that fits into your definition of character advancement.
QFT

This game isn't about grinding till you reach max lvl, cuz if it was, there would be no game, especially with Factions. The game is more about the titles and skills now more then anything, but before the large amount of titles *basically before Hard Mode* it was about having fun, if lvling is the only thing that makes this game fun, go play a game with infinite levels.
Quaker
Quaker
Hell's Protector
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceyx
1)hit 20
2)Buy max damage weapons
3)play the rest of the campaign without
character advancement, but magnified to include the entire campaign
1.) You don't "hit" 20, as such. You don't start a character in EotN, EotN is designed for characters that are already lvl20.

2.) You should already have max damage weapons.

3.)You don't go up in character level, but your character does advance. They always said that level 20 would be the max, so they got around the advancement thing by introducing the idea of "title" tracks that would give you buffs.

They started that back in Nightfall, where you would gain Sunspear and Lightbringer points to get special skills and buffs against certain enemies. It's essentially the same as going up in level, except it's temporary.
In EotN you can accumulate Asuran, Dwarven, Norn & Vanguard points to utilize special skills and get buffs against certain enemy types, or in certain areas.
It's not going up in level, but it is character advancement. Many of the PvE only skills are very powerful and increasing your points in the relevant title increases their effectiveness.
So, even though some people will say you don't have to grind for levels in GW, in actuality, you sort of do - only it's grinding for titles.
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#11
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Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
Max in GW is God Walking Among Mere Mortals. And in GW:EN, you also need to max out the Hall of Monuments.

That should give you at least 6 months of hard core grinding.
Crom The Pale
Crom The Pale
Furnace Stoker
#12
Guild Wars is more about Story advancement then character advancement.

Think of it as your char growing up, once it reaches adulthood the real adventure begins.

I can understand somewhat if you started in Prophicies and went slow you wouldn't hit lvl 20 until very near the end of the story line. That is not the case in Factions and Nightfall where the story really only begins when you hit lvl 20. Untill you've aquired every skill and every elite skill in the game you really haven't explored all there is to do with any one proffesion/secondary combo.

The key to any good RPG is the story, not the lvl max of your char.
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Azreal911
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
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Originally Posted by Lady Syve
You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.
Wow I really hope that rumor isn't true! last thing I need is another korean grind game where the more you grind the better your character is. I've seen enough of those back in the day to skip them after checking them out for a week.
Coloneh
Coloneh
Furnace Stoker
#14
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Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
you are playing the wroooonnngggg rpg. this is a skill based game (mostly). if you want a grind based game go play wow
careyt
careyt
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
you are playing the wroooonnngggg rpg. this is a skill based game (mostly). if you want a grind based game go play wow
actually the ultimate grind based game is Ragnarok Online... God I hate that RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing game...
llsektorll
llsektorll
Desert Nomad
#16
EOTN pve only skills are too overpowered to be in pvp xD
Bront
Bront
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
You do have Reps to max out in EotN that get you stuff beyond just the L20 stuff.

Beyond that, Heroes, and a new Mission/Questing system, it's pretty standard, just starts at the harder end of normal PvE (mobs are a bit tougher, better skill selection, higher level).