Eye of the north.. Hows the character progression?

Iceyx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

A/Mo

I'm bored, and thinking of grabbing eye of the north for fun. I have a few level 20s, but got bored of them simply because of the lack of character progression once you hit max level.

So with EOTN being ONLY high level, what are they doing for character progression here? Do you get at all stronger, or are you simply doing dungeons without character advancement?

Or is it just the old formula of
1)hit 20
2)Buy max damage weapons
3)play the rest of the campaign without
character advancement, but magnified to include the entire campaign

Online Gamer

Online Gamer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

HELL!!

D/Mo

there is no further character advancement, just new areas to explore and play through as well as heroes you can unlock

rose of zg

rose of zg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

croatia

[CM]

Mo/

dungeons and Titles ;D

eotn is fun

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

No, the formula is pretty much the same. You hit 20, get max weapons/armor, and go kill things. But really, you're playing the wrong game if all you want to do is watch your numbers constantly go up. Guild Wars is supposed to be a game where everyone is on equal footing and you have to use you skill and knowledge of the game to create builds that can overcome various obstacles.

You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.

Edit: I suppose there are titles you can work on, if that fits into your definition of character advancement.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

level 20 is your max level---you will never get higher than that.
The game is about what you do once you get there, not about getting there.
(the plane ride to your vacation is NOT your vacation---what you do once you get there IS)!

Iceyx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

A/Mo

ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

this game doesn't even really start until level 20 (with the exception of prophecies which you won't make lvl 20 until around the desert) . ..

rose of zg

rose of zg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

croatia

[CM]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
lol but at level 20 the game starts ...titles and skills heroes and pets

Hall of Monuments .....and party time animal companion

pvp and ...

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Syve
No, the formula is pretty much the same. You hit 20, get max weapons/armor, and go kill things. But really, you're playing the wrong game if all you want to do is watch your numbers constantly go up. Guild Wars is supposed to be a game where everyone is on equal footing and you have to use you skill and knowledge of the game to create builds that can overcome various obstacles.

You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.

Edit: I suppose there are titles you can work on, if that fits into your definition of character advancement.
QFT

This game isn't about grinding till you reach max lvl, cuz if it was, there would be no game, especially with Factions. The game is more about the titles and skills now more then anything, but before the large amount of titles *basically before Hard Mode* it was about having fun, if lvling is the only thing that makes this game fun, go play a game with infinite levels.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceyx
1)hit 20
2)Buy max damage weapons
3)play the rest of the campaign without
character advancement, but magnified to include the entire campaign
1.) You don't "hit" 20, as such. You don't start a character in EotN, EotN is designed for characters that are already lvl20.

2.) You should already have max damage weapons.

3.)You don't go up in character level, but your character does advance. They always said that level 20 would be the max, so they got around the advancement thing by introducing the idea of "title" tracks that would give you buffs.

They started that back in Nightfall, where you would gain Sunspear and Lightbringer points to get special skills and buffs against certain enemies. It's essentially the same as going up in level, except it's temporary.
In EotN you can accumulate Asuran, Dwarven, Norn & Vanguard points to utilize special skills and get buffs against certain enemy types, or in certain areas.
It's not going up in level, but it is character advancement. Many of the PvE only skills are very powerful and increasing your points in the relevant title increases their effectiveness.
So, even though some people will say you don't have to grind for levels in GW, in actuality, you sort of do - only it's grinding for titles.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
Max in GW is God Walking Among Mere Mortals. And in GW:EN, you also need to max out the Hall of Monuments.

That should give you at least 6 months of hard core grinding.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

Guild Wars is more about Story advancement then character advancement.

Think of it as your char growing up, once it reaches adulthood the real adventure begins.

I can understand somewhat if you started in Prophicies and went slow you wouldn't hit lvl 20 until very near the end of the story line. That is not the case in Factions and Nightfall where the story really only begins when you hit lvl 20. Untill you've aquired every skill and every elite skill in the game you really haven't explored all there is to do with any one proffesion/secondary combo.

The key to any good RPG is the story, not the lvl max of your char.

Azreal911

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Thornhill, ON, CAN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Syve
You might see more of this character progression you want in GW2, with its rumored limitless level system.
Wow I really hope that rumor isn't true! last thing I need is another korean grind game where the more you grind the better your character is. I've seen enough of those back in the day to skip them after checking them out for a week.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceyx
ah alright, guess i'll wait for gw2 then. I lose interest almost instantly when my character maxes out in rpgs.
you are playing the wroooonnngggg rpg. this is a skill based game (mostly). if you want a grind based game go play wow

careyt

careyt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Order of the Immortal [Vamp]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
you are playing the wroooonnngggg rpg. this is a skill based game (mostly). if you want a grind based game go play wow
actually the ultimate grind based game is Ragnarok Online... God I hate that RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing game...

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

EOTN pve only skills are too overpowered to be in pvp xD

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

You do have Reps to max out in EotN that get you stuff beyond just the L20 stuff.

Beyond that, Heroes, and a new Mission/Questing system, it's pretty standard, just starts at the harder end of normal PvE (mobs are a bit tougher, better skill selection, higher level).