New Keyboard or Rodent?

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Ive decided to go for either a new Keyboard, or a new gaming mouse for my birthday next week.

What im contemplating is; either the G15 Keyboard or a similarly high quality mouse instead.

Do you guys have any remomendations for me?

My current Keyboard is ok. The only thing is that a few Keys have lost their lettering (WSAD to name a few ), this isnt really life threatening.. but the G15 dooooooeeees look really sweet

My current Mouse is a cheap Wireless 5 button optical mouse with a docking station for charging.. again it slightly "used" but still fully functional and still pretty accurate and has a good feel to it... although I think the thumb botton is starting to give.

Curi

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

Well if i were u i would go for the mouse.
If u want the keyboard cuz of the pretty little G-keys i can tell u they dont help at all. I got the G11 and only use 1 of the 54 keys on the side. The screen is also quite useless. The only good use for it to show u the clock.

Azreal911

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Thornhill, ON, CAN

I would go for the mouse, if you lose a button on your mouse it's hell cause that's one extra skill you have to hunt for on the keyboard in the heat of battle. Especially for a mesmer user like me I only have split seconds to react in pvp.

Pasha the Mighty

Pasha the Mighty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

South Park, Colorado

OtDL

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Are you buying it for yourself, or are you asking your parents for either one of them?
I've read a couple of reviews, and pretty much the best mouse out there is the mx518, not the g7 or anything like that. It's a wired mouse, so no lag. Just ask you parents for the keyboard, and then buy the mouse from your own money, seeing it's about 30 euros here, it can't be more than 35 dollars over there.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Sounds like solid advice to me. I already have an ingame clock from Xfire anyways, so that wouldnt be an issue.

Any advice on a good computer mouse (can be either a cable mouse or a wireless one with a docking station). The prpice should be to a maximum of the cost of the G15 (maybe EUR 65 in Germany), so there should be a very large selection to choose from.

EDIT: im buying for myself... or my wife wants to buy it for me

Pasha the Mighty

Pasha the Mighty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

South Park, Colorado

OtDL

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like I said, the mouse that comes out best in the reviews is the logitech mx 518, or if you can still get it the mx500. the mx518 is really cheap in holland, it's an optical wired mouse, for 30 euros

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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Definitely a mouse. I'd say grab Logitec G5 Laser Mouse. It's so smooth and precise, and the best thing is the adjustable weight: you can add a cartridge with small weights in it, as much and at what place you like, to fit into every hand.

It's not really cheap, but definitely worth it!

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

I'd say a new mouse too, keyboards are just keyboards.

I have a 2007 Logitech G5 and I love it, it's totally worth all the money (like 50$ USD).

I spilled a whole cup of water on it too, and it lived without problems.. call it lucky or just quality, I don't know, but that is awesome none the less!

It really helps me a lot in games too, I love the buttons on it. But the adjustable DPI button and weight cartridge are just gimmicks in my opinion, but I guess if you have a bigger hand the weights can help.

I'd say change the DPI buttons to some other function, like adjusting volume (and I use my side buttons for switching songs in winamp) because really you rarely should ever have to adjust your DPI once you get it set like you want, I mean how many other mouses have that? Pretty much none, so it's not important.

Oh yeah and the G5 has a braided cable so you can be sure you aren't going to rip the cord up, this mouse is all quality.

Razer has some good mouses too, but I don't trust any other company for mouses than Logitech, they simply make the best quality imo.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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i'd say avoid anything logitech.

But thats mainly because they are prejudice against left-handed people.

Pasha the Mighty

Pasha the Mighty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

South Park, Colorado

OtDL

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that's not true, they just bring out a lot of right handed stuff, and just don't think they'll make enough profit if they take the time to design a left handed version

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well, if you are left handed then don't buy it I guess, no reason to recommend against them. Though I agree it is stupid that there is no left handed versions.

My friend is left handed and she uses her mouse right handed, so yeah.. *shrug*.

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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If you are going to go for a keyboard there is definately only one to get; the G15, like you mentioned.

If you are going for a mouse personally I'd go Razer, they are ambidextrus, and even so feel amazing, i have the Copperhead, which is a truely amazing mouse, however its only really effective if your playing online shooters.

And theres the problem, a great mouse while a truely great addition will be held back by Guild Wars.

Personally i would say mouse, if you play FPS's its pretty much a must have, and while i am definately going to get the G15 as well as my Copperhead, most keyboards, as long as they have quick launch buttons and feel nice, wont make much difference.

blakecraw

blakecraw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Austin, TX

A keyboard's a keyboard; just get one with buttons that feel nice. I personally like the ones with low-profile buttons, almost like a laptop (but with a good feel to them), but some people like the programmable ones. I don't have any experience with those so I can't recommend one, but I never find myself wishing I had macros, so I don't recommend that path.

Now, a mouse is something your hand will be resting on constantly, and it's gotta be comfortable; there is much more variance in mouse design, and something like a scroll wheel that sticks way up and makes a loud clicking noise will drive you nuts. I also find it extremely useful to have at least two side buttons, on the thumb side.

I highly do NOT recommend a g7; this isn't because they're wireless, I never noticed a problem with that, in fact it is a really great mouse, but I had one and it broke 3 times. After 1 year I had to hit it every so often to make it work, then the replacement lasted about 6 months to a year, then started sending random double clicks, then the next replacement started just freezing for 5-10 seconds at a time after about two months. Logitech was very good about replacing them (in fact I have 3 mosty working $80 mice now for the price of one, since I guess having people send them back is not cost-effective for Logitech), but that doesn't change the fact that they fail a lot, which is a major pain in the ass.

After g7 failure #3, I just decided to get a new mouse, a Lachesis, which I highly DO recommend: the buttons feel great, it's low-profile so your wrist can stay mostly flat, it's got 4 side buttons (2 on each side), and the scroll wheel is almost flush with the mouse itself so your finger doesn't have to stick way up in the air to use it. This also makes it much easier to click mouse-3. It's ambidextrous, which is a plus, and even so I think it feels better than any mouse I've touched that is built for right-handed folks. Plus it looks sexeh

Pasha the Mighty

Pasha the Mighty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

South Park, Colorado

OtDL

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I disagree that a mouse being ambidextrous is a bad thing. If you're left handed, ok, maybe there aren't that many left handed mice, but I believe the mx 1000 or revolution has a left handed version, and having a mouse specially designed for your right/left hand is definitely a positive thing. Also, @ blakecraw, your g7 breaking down that often is just bad luck. My buddy bought his like a year ago, and it's still working fine. I have a wireless mx 1000 though, and it does freeze up like once every two days for about 20 seconds. I just figured it was lag. So I can get a replacement for that mouse for free? Cuz I guess it wouldn't hurt...

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

OK, the selection for mice are

MX516
MX1000
G5
G7 (?)
G9 (a little on the expensive side though)
Copperhead

Ill be testing these in a shop this weekend to see which fits my hand the best before buying online

As im righthanded I can basically choose any of those mice (but yea, it sucks that there are so few for the lefties out there. That wont affect my decision though im afraid)

Admael

Admael

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

Xen of Heroes

Razer Lachesis

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

I am loving my Ideazon Fang keypad, couldn't do without it now. If it was me, I'd buy one of those first and spend what's left of the budget on a mouse. (For me, any old mouse works for Guild Wars... but other games may benefit more from a good one).

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

I play FPS games aswell, so a good mouse is a must for those.

malevolence

malevolence

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

In this case, I think you should take a new mouse , I would go for a Razor but hey , the logitech MX 518 looks great too .

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

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To all you that say a keyboard is a keyboard.

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/eclipseii.htm

I have this keyboard and it is awesome. The keys are virtually silent, Its basic with 3 colored back lit, lazer etched keys (this means the letters can not be worn away). The keystroke is perfect for gaming. I have had mine for over a year and a half and it is still like new.

I say a mouse is a mouse.
Happy B-day btw.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

well, you should get a nice mouse first imo.. but yeah.

If i was going to spend that much on a keyboard I'd just go with a logitech G15, but I think newegg has that eclipse for half the price that they do on that website.

The regular Eclipse was 30$ on newegg with free shipping once, now it's 50$ (last time I checked) and costs shipping, and the keyboard is totally a rip off because well.. just read the reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823175103

Was going to buy that, but people say the keys wear off and the lighting is patchy, E.G some areas are darker and some are lighter, bleh.

zamial

zamial

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
well, you should get a nice mouse first imo.. but yeah.

If i was going to spend that much on a keyboard I'd just go with a logitech G15, but I think newegg has that eclipse for half the price that they do on that website.

The regular Eclipse was 30$ on newegg with free shipping once, now it's 50$ (last time I checked) and costs shipping, and the keyboard is totally a rip off because well.. just read the reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823175103

Was going to buy that, but people say the keys wear off and the lighting is patchy, E.G some areas are darker and some are lighter, bleh.
QFT I don't know about the eclipse I have the eclipse2. Lighting isn't perfect but it is way close enough and letters on the keys don't/can't wear off on the eclipse2. It also works with vista.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Yeah, well the patchy lighting wouldn't bother me too much as long as it wasn't too major, but the keys wearing off is a no-go for me if I'm spending that type of money on a keyboard.

So, an unfortunate loss for me, cause I like the first Eclipse more than the second one.

Right now I just use a Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard, it's really nice and cheap, can bust through them and you're only in 20$ or less for a new one, it's nothing special but has all the essential buttons and some media ones to boot.

Honestly though if they are charging that much for the first one, it should have the quality that the second one presumably has.

The price was right before, 30$ and no shipping fee, can't beat that. Just a shame that newegg took that deal out.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Well, Ive decided to go with the

Razer Copperhead mouse and the G11 Keyboard.

Thats the only mouse which actually felt comfortable in my hand. The most expensive one (Logitiec G9) was just terrible. I cant imagine ever finding that thing comfortable for playing any game.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

I don't like the G9 either, looks kind of funny too.

Hope you like your new stuff!