Why does this bother me? - Armbrace Related
Lykan
Im currently in the process of buying up Gems for a shield and im going to have to do a DoA mission to get to the trader. But im also a bit lazy and if this guy wants to trade I wouldnt mind saving a bit of time.
The thing is what is his angle? Is it profitable to trade an armbrace for gems and then sell the gems or could he be a duper trying to offload his illgotten gains?
If he is a duper would anet find out if i traded for his armbrace then traded it for a shield?
I think it might be dodgy as he was there a couple nights ago saying the same thing...
Decisions, decisions...
JR
Didn't they deal with all of the methods of duping already? I thought it was just a bug that allowed you to do it that got fixed a while back.
Lykan
Yea they fixed it quick but we dont really know if they got all of them out of the game.
Enko
while they did patch the exploit, i doubt they deleted all of the armbraces that were duped. i know for a fact that they couldn't scan for duped items because when i sent in the method on how the exploit worked so it could get patched, the items that i had tested with (a red dye, a jade armor, and a zehlenun's bow), were not deleted.
the only way they would be able to find them all is if they dug through every transaction from the banned players. ever hear about the theory of six degrees of separation (the idea that everyone in the world is linked within 6 associates) or that almost all US money has some trace of cocaine on it from drug smugglers and dealers? anet would face something similar as a lot of the armbraces were disseminated out, traded in for items, etc.
the only way they would be able to find them all is if they dug through every transaction from the banned players. ever hear about the theory of six degrees of separation (the idea that everyone in the world is linked within 6 associates) or that almost all US money has some trace of cocaine on it from drug smugglers and dealers? anet would face something similar as a lot of the armbraces were disseminated out, traded in for items, etc.
Antheus
legacyofkain85
selling 15 gemsets does turn in a bit more proffit than selling 1 armbrace,altho i would prefer selling 1 armbrace than 15 gemsets because not many people buy gemsets in bulks
Lykan
So your saying he could be legit and not a nasty duper?
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Antheus
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Otherwise the only explanations would be he:
-duped Armbraces and want to sell off his hot load, or
-sold an really expensive miniature for 100+ armbraces.
Acehigh
The guy could also be an idiot, since most people trade 16 gemsets for an Ambrace.
GloryFox
I thought it was obvious. Gem Sets are now worth more than Armbraces individually. Not by much but it's still more.
Dallcingi
He probably just wants profit or maybe just wants to crack open coffers cause he is rich... not many ppl buy armbraces for expensive these days
sagilltwins
Awesome deal! 
I'd do it
I'd do it
VitisVinifera
yeah either he's laundering his duped armbraces, or it's legit and he'd rather have coffers or gemsets
personally if I had 15 gemsets, I'd rather just turn it into a trader so I knew my armbrace was legit
personally if I had 15 gemsets, I'd rather just turn it into a trader so I knew my armbrace was legit
makosi
I think he deserves some credit for spelling 'armbrace' properly. I'm tired of ambrances, ambraces, armbrances, embraces etc. I moan too much.
On topic, he probably wanted to gamble with scamboxes in the hope of getting a Mallyx or armbrace. I don't think it's anything sinister.
On topic, he probably wanted to gamble with scamboxes in the hope of getting a Mallyx or armbrace. I don't think it's anything sinister.
Dallcingi
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On topic, he probably wanted to gamble with scamboxes in the hope of getting a Mallyx or armbrace. I don't think it's anything sinister. |
Martin Alvito
1) He's bad at the game and meant '16' gemsets
2) He's going to be sitting in trade district selling other stuff anyway, and prefers the slightly higher expected profit from gemsets (since his time price is zero)
3) He prefers gambling to sure things
4) He has hacked the game and can tell which coffers have good things and which don't
I think that sums up the possible scenarios. I choose to doubt the dupe hypothesis; that was a looooong time ago.
2) He's going to be sitting in trade district selling other stuff anyway, and prefers the slightly higher expected profit from gemsets (since his time price is zero)
3) He prefers gambling to sure things
4) He has hacked the game and can tell which coffers have good things and which don't
I think that sums up the possible scenarios. I choose to doubt the dupe hypothesis; that was a looooong time ago.
Johnny_Chang
Gemsets = 12-13k ea (15 = 180k-195k)
Armbrace = 150-170k ea
Sure you go through a lot of trouble to make profit and it doesn't make sense to most of us... but then there's those who buy lockpicks from special merchants for 1.2k ea and resell for 1.25k ea
Armbrace = 150-170k ea
Sure you go through a lot of trouble to make profit and it doesn't make sense to most of us... but then there's those who buy lockpicks from special merchants for 1.2k ea and resell for 1.25k ea
A11Eur0
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The guy could also be an idiot, since most people trade 16 gemsets for an Ambrace.
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A11Eur0
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well he would probably be rich enough to buy a mallyx... idk why he would want to gamble for one...
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Courage!
no most of the duppers were banned and if any items were left over there most likely sold
cthulhu reborn
Maybe he is as lazy as you and wants to go for a mini mallyx. He might have gotten it for a trade and wanting to get gems to get coffers...Personally I wouldn't worry about illegal stuff since he is asking at least fair value for it. It's not like he's selling em cheaply.
WTS Armbrace 50k !!! 144 left
...or something like that. Now that I wouldn't trust.
WTS Armbrace 50k !!! 144 left
...or something like that. Now that I wouldn't trust.
King Xiao
Why is everyone looking so much into this. His reason is simple. He has the required gemsets for an armbrace but in order to get an armbrace he needs to do another mallyx mission and find the purple soul dude. I think it is just that he is lazy and wants an armbrace now.
patrona
well i think that 15 coffer are more expensive than an armbrace.
might be the reason why he does it...
might be the reason why he does it...
N1ghtstalker
i just did another fullrun while getting my armbrace lol
Lord Sojar
He is tEh HaX0rZ! lol.
You are paranoid. He just wants gemsets, and decided not to get torment item. That is all.
You are paranoid. He just wants gemsets, and decided not to get torment item. That is all.
Darkobra
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Why is everyone looking so much into this. His reason is simple. He has the required gemsets for an armbrace but in order to get an armbrace he needs to do another mallyx mission and find the purple soul dude. I think it is just that he is lazy and wants an armbrace now.
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HawaiiGamer
Regarding the whole armbrace duping issue... imo, what Anet should have done is make armbraces non-stackable. That way the hordes of duped armbraces in these player's inventory would have unstacked upon application of the patch. The only one's they'd be able to keep would be equal to the amount of open slots available in storage/inventory. Sure, there'd be a few duped armbraces... but not hundreds!
As far as this trader. He's offering a good deal. I wouldn't look further into it than that.
As far as this trader. He's offering a good deal. I wouldn't look further into it than that.
MithranArkanere
He probably wants a Mallyx Minaiture. For that, he must either open Coffers or the Mallyx chest.
So if he gets an ambrace form the coffer, he gets gems again an keeps trying.
So if he gets an ambrace form the coffer, he gets gems again an keeps trying.
Lykan
Well i got my Shield, I did the reverse in the end I went to spamadan and offered the gems up in trade +1 ecto and got a DoA farmer to trade it, so all is good.