What's the best hero mesmer interrupt build?
ToMeKs
Hi. I need the best hero mesmer interrupter build. Is this one with power block good? http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Me...wer_Block_Hero I think that it's a good skill. Any other suggestions or I should use this one?
Murmel
For just pure interuption, that build is great. But the need for THAT many interupts isn't nessecery. But power block is a good elite.
Racthoh
A ranger hero with just Broadhead Arrow or a paragon hero with just Spear Swipe is stronger than that build.
Yes the hero AI is amazing with interrupts, but dazing anything achieves the same result.
Yes the hero AI is amazing with interrupts, but dazing anything achieves the same result.
ToMeKs
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I haven't got so many psychical dmg dealers to interrupt with daze, but thanks
2nd question-What row would you suggest when using this buid? I heard that heroes use them from the left side to the right side. Is that true?
Greetings
I haven't got so many psychical dmg dealers to interrupt with daze, but thanks
2nd question-What row would you suggest when using this buid? I heard that heroes use them from the left side to the right side. Is that true?
Greetings
Murmel
Generally I put interupts to the left (always) not only on hero builds but on all builds. And from my experience, heroes doesn't always use it from left to right. It all depends on the skill setup. But they tend to use the skills to the left more.
ToMeKs
3rd question-What would you suggest except for power lock? I haven't got GWEN :/
Coloneh
a BHA ranger hero is better. mesmers are fail (in PvE)
Murmel
Mantra of Recovery is nice, makes your spells recharge faster.
Migraine is a great shutdown spell, but not so usefull in PvE since most things die fast.
Psychic Instability for an interupt/KD.
Power Leech for interupt + 10 sec e-management if facing a caster.
Expel Hexes for hex removal.
Power Flux
Simple Thievery
And thats preety much them.. Most of those are interupts as thats what you wanted. You can check all the elites here: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elite_skills_list
Migraine is a great shutdown spell, but not so usefull in PvE since most things die fast.
Psychic Instability for an interupt/KD.
Power Leech for interupt + 10 sec e-management if facing a caster.
Expel Hexes for hex removal.
Power Flux
Simple Thievery
And thats preety much them.. Most of those are interupts as thats what you wanted. You can check all the elites here: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elite_skills_list
Murmel
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
mesmers are fail
Saying that mesmers are fail is fail. But mesmers are sadly not very usefull in pve. But in pvp they are very fearsome.
Pyro maniac
Mantra of Recovery, Power Drain, Leech Signet, Drain enchantment and Prot Spirit
ToMeKs
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
a BHA ranger hero is better. mesmers are fail
Thanks, but..BHA has got 1 sec recharge. I need to kill 2 powerful eles and I can interrupt only one of them.
Thanks for answers to everyone
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@Murmel
Lol! I haven't got Power Lock, not Power Block! xD
Thanks for answers to everyone
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@Murmel
Lol! I haven't got Power Lock, not Power Block! xD
Antithesis
[skill=text]Epidemic[/skill] or [skill=text]Fevered Dreams[/skill] + Dazed. Or Cry of Frustration. Or lock a hero onto one Ele and use Pain Inverter on the other.
Personally i've noticed no difference in skill usage based on bar location.
Personally i've noticed no difference in skill usage based on bar location.
DarkSpirit
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Thanks for answers to everyone
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@Murmel
Lol! I haven't got Power Lock, not Power Block! xD Ignore Coloneh, he just hates all mesmers with a Vengence. Maybe he got his ass kicked in PvP, by a mesmer, so he hates them ever since.
BHA has a 15 seconds recharge not 1 second. A mesmer interrupt hero has the ability to interrupt more than 1 caster close by. One way, is to use that build you have, Power Block one caster, then quickly target the other one. Or you can also use the MoR build that I posted:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10272861
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Murmel
Saying that mesmers are fail is fail. But mesmers are sadly not very usefull in pve. But in pvp they are very fearsome.
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DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
yeah, Ive gotten my ass shut down by mesmers in PvP. who hasnt? thats what mesmers do in PvP. In PvE mesmers look pretty and get stomped on. I really dont see how you can think success in PvP equates to success in PvE.
My mesmer has been doing very well vanquishing in HM, so I dont know why you keep thinking that mesmers have problems in PvE.
This is one of the builds that I have been toying around with: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=481
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
My mesmer has been doing very well vanquishing in HM, so I dont know why you keep thinking that mesmers have problems in PvE.
yes because PvE is soooooo hard. just because your mesmer can do it dosnt mean that every other profession couldnt do it better.
ump
I know nerf and all that, but I still like Mantra of Recovery with Cry of Frustration. I round it out with stuff like Power Drain, Drain Enchantment, Empathy, Guilt, Mistrust, Resurrection Chant and occasionally stuff like Remove Hex, Aegis, and Shield of Absorption.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
yes because PvE is soooooo hard. just because your mesmer can do it dosnt mean that every other profession couldnt do it better.
Feel free to find another profession's build (with whatever H/H team) that vanquishes Grothmar Wardowns HM better then, mesmer hater.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Feel free to find another profession's build (with whatever H/H team) that vanquishes Grothmar Wardowns HM better then, mesmer hater.
I dont know what area that is, but i can see building a team very easily.IMBAgon Rac's paragons + derv BHA RC or divert monk N/Rt N/something support of some sort I dont know the area, but that mesmer should be able to handle most anything by switching to wards, a blindbot, an interruptor, a healer, a protter, or even an interrupter.
DarkSpirit
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http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grothmar_Wardowns
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IMBAgon Rac's paragons + derv BHA RC or divert monk N/Rt N/something support of some sort That is one of the worst places for a Paragon in HM.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
mind explaining the problem. I dont see a problem.
Uh...you were going to show me a non-mesmer build that vanquishes HM Grothmar Wardowns better with H/H?
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Uh...you were going to show me a non-mesmer build that vanquishes HM Grothmar Wardowns better with H/H?
and I did. you seem to think this area is hell. please explain why. nothing on the wiki page looks challenging.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
and I did. you seem to think this area is hell. please explain why. nothing on the wiki page looks challenging.
Because the build you gave, failed and your team was wiped when they got off just outside town and hit the charrs.
Trvth Jvstice
I prefer the Pvxwiki Mesmer Interrupt hero build over BHA heroes. I've tested both extensively and the Mesmer came out on top in almost every situation. The only thing I've found the Ranger interrupters to be better at is interrupting monster skills. The Ranger heroes also seem to have a problem using Epidemic appropriately.
EDIT: @ Darkspirit, I haven't seen a thread about Mesmers in the Campfire section where Coloneh didn't say something to the order of. "Take out the Mesmer and replace it with X profession," or, "Mesmers fail in PVE." All I'm saying is consider the source, unless you just enjoy arguing with a brick wall - some do of course.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
I prefer the Pvxwiki Mesmer Interrupt hero build over BHA heroes. I've tested both extensively and the Mesmer came out on top in almost every situation. The only thing I've found the Ranger interrupters to be better at is interrupting monster skills. The Ranger heroes also seem to have a problem using Epidemic appropriately.
Someone who understands, thank you very much.
All this talk about mesmers always having lower damage and always being weaker in PvE than any other classes, are from people who really dont understand mesmers. Rac's paragon build is good but HM Grothmar Wardowns is just bad for his default build without major modifications and even with major modifications it was difficult. Double Flameshielder Aegis, Meteor Shower, Res Chant, Shatter Enchantment just work very well against his 3 Paragons, and OOP/DF build. A mesmer with [Cry of Pain] is more effective there.
BlueNovember
It's infinitely easier to have one guy take all the damage rather than try to interrupt whole groups of eles. Yes, leach and drain interupts on N/Me, but I don't see the need for it if you have good flagging and pulling.
Prot spirit > wardowns. Extinguish > Bad pulls. I like the idea of assasin's promise recharging Pain Inverter though. Still, nothing mesmer-related there.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
I like the idea of assasin's promise recharging Pain Inverter though. Still, nothing mesmer-related there.
[Cry of Pain] is a mesmer PvE skill, also [Shrinking Armor] and [Phantom Pain] which are used to trigger Cry. Then [Shatter Delusion] to cause deep wound then cracked armor. These are all mesmer skills and shattering [Phantom Pain] has been around as a well-known mesmer technique ever since prophecies time. Using [Assassin's Promise] on a mesmer is also not a brand new concept either, even many necro and ele builds have been using it since Factions. [Pain Inverter] is a new PvE skill but it is not even forming the main combo which is PP+CoP+SD+SA+CoP+SD which gives 342 armor ignoring damage, deep wound and cracked armor and 200 of which is AoE. It is just there for extra damage.
In other words, I am just rehashing an old mesmer build idea (previously called the "Painful Promise" mesmer build) with the new skills for HM.
Coloneh
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EDIT: @ Darkspirit, I haven't seen a thread about Mesmers in the Campfire section where Coloneh didn't say something to the order of. "Take out the Mesmer and replace it with X profession," or, "Mesmers fail in PVE." All I'm saying is consider the source, unless you just enjoy arguing with a brick wall - some do of course.
I say this because it is true. the mesmer, as a PRIMARY PROFESSION, is inferior to other caster primaries in PvE. (excluding a handful of strange areas)
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
I say this because it is true. the mesmer, as a PRIMARY PROFESSION, is inferior to other caster primaries in PvE. (excluding a handful of strange areas)
Grothmar Wardowns is a strange area? Have you completed GWEN yet?
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Grothmar Wardowns is a strange area? Have you completed GWEN yet?
I didnt say this area is strange, I didnt eve say it was hard. YOU said it was hard and then pointed me to the wiki page as if this was some sort of explanation. i see there are charr there... so? charr are easy.
DarkSpirit
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
I dont know what area that is, but i can see building a team very easily.
IMBAgon Rac's paragons + derv BHA RC or divert monk N/Rt N/something support of some sort I dont know the area, but that mesmer should be able to handle most anything by switching to wards, a blindbot, an interruptor, a healer, a protter, or even an interrupter. And your build failed.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
And your build failed.
Give a reason. stop trolling
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