Team Build: Fastest UW HM

Lord Bleyz

Lord Bleyz

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Hi, I'm writing this guide for the benefit of all who do The Underworld in Hard Mode. In this guide I'm not going to explain in detail how to solo Pits, Smites, etc with a Terra, there are guides out there already. What I am going to show you is the order in which we do UW with these builds. Our current fastest time is 42mins with this method, we are constantly trying new ideas and builds in order to improve this time. So in the future this thread may be updated. I hope this clears up speculation on the validity of our claims. If you want to see proof of our times in UW HM go here.
The builds:
2 Ursan's any class
Solo Sin
Mimic's Ursan Blessing when not soloing Unwanted Guests.
Ursan Set of Armor: Saboteurs, sup vigor, minors runes, vitae for max health

Weapons: Zealous Sword of Warding, Shield -5 20% +30hp or +10 vs ele/slashing

Solo Set of Armor: Radiant Mods on all pieces, Superior Shadow on Headpiece, Superior Critical Strike, Superior Dagger, Rune of Attunement
Weapons: Sundering Daggers of Enchanting "Guided By Fate" inscription +15dmg(while enchanted), Backup set of +5 zealous daggers.
[Build=Solo Sin;OwVkIsd4XOizSQnF6CCagFGZGhB]
2 Terra Tanks
Armor: Geomancer on Chest, Survivor on the rest, Sup Earth on headpeice, sup vigor, major fie, major energy, vitae
Weapons: Staff with 20% enchant mod, bow with 20% enchant for pulling.
For in depth guide on the use of a Terra tank in UW go here
[Build=Foosters Terra Tank;OgVEMay6x08V5hLBth0fYYA2qA]
2 Healers Boon Monks
Armor: health, energyWeapon: 20 percent enchant helps
[Build=Healers Boon;OwYT043AZKHUiYjgu6jAZIuCNCA]
Spell Breaker Hybrid
Armor: Health, Energy, sup divine with headpiece
weapon: 20 percent enchant mod
[Build=Spell Breaker;OwUUMw2+G4SREBB5gfEvOxNAEoRA]
First 5 Quests - Time of Completion: 15-22mins
All party members: Immediatly take quest Clear the Chamber. All party members: Clear a path for a Terra1 to Ice Wastes. Terra1: Proceed to the Ice Wastes Monument preparing the area for the quest Servants of Grenth. Ursan Group with Terra2: Clear up to The Labyrinth Monument to spawn the The Reaper of the Labyrinth. Terra2: Solo the Terrorweb Dryders to spawn the Reaper of the Labyrinth. Ursan Group: Avoiding the Terrorweb Dryders, clear the Bladed Aatxes up to the Bridge leading into Forgotten Vale. Terra2: Once Ursan Group has cleared the Bladed Attaxes up to Bridge in Forgotten Vale take the quest Restoring Grenth's Monuments, and Escort of Souls. Upon taking Escort of Souls DO NOT MOVE. This will hold the New Souls in place while the Ursan group clears the Mindblades. Ursan Group: Clear the Mindblade Spectre's for the New Souls to move into Forgotten Vale. Clear Forgotten Vale of creatures and spawn the Reaper of Forgotten Vale and complete the quest Wraitful Spirit, do not let Mayor Alegheri or New souls die.
  • Terra2: Clear out the Mindblade Spectres that spawned in the first chamber during the quest Escort of Souls. Stand under the Archway between Chamber 1 and Chamber 2(marked on the image in this post) in preperation for Unwanted Guests. SoloSin: Take the quest Unwanted Guests when Terra2 is ready. Kill all the Keeper of Souls to finish Unwanted Guests. Terra2: Kill the Keeper of Souls that spawns under the Archway then proceed to Ice Wastes and take the quest Servants of Grenth while Terra1 solos the Terroweb Dryders that spawn. All Party Members: Port to Labyrinth when all 5 quests are complete and head for Twin Serpent Moutiains. Last 5 quests - Time of Completion: 42-55mins
      All party members: Kill the Bladed Aatxes on your way through The Labyrinth toward Twin Serpent Mountains. All party members: Run past all the Obsidian Behomoths killing 2 groups of Charged Blacknesses on your way to the entrance to Chaos Planes. Ursan Group: Head toward Twin Serpent Mountains monument, kill the Terrorweb Dryders to spawn the Reaper of the Twin Serpent Mountains. Complete the quest Demon Assassin. Terra1: Head through Chaos Planes avoiding the Banished Dream Riders to the Bone Pits. Solo the entire area in Bone Pits and spawn the Reaper of the Bone Pits. Solo the quest Imprisoned Spirits. Terra2: Move through Chaos Planes towards Spawning Pools, being sure to kill the Wailing Lord Groups on the way. Do not kill the Banished Dream Riders that Spawn groups of Mindblade Spectres! Stop and hold the two Banished Dream Riders aggro near the entrance to the Spawning Pools. Ursan Group: Run through Chaos Planes toward Spawning Pools. Kill all the enemies in area and around the Monument in Spawning Pools to spawn the Reaper of Spawning Pools and finish the quest Terrorweb Queen. Terra2: After Ursan group has run past into Spawning Pools, proceed to the Monument in Chaos Planes. Kill all the Mindblade Spectres, Wailing Lords, Banished Dream Riders, and Terrorweb Dryders around the Monument to spawn the Reaper of the Chaos Planes. All party Members: Port to Chaos planes and finish The Four Horsemen quest.
  • LiviDevil

    Ascalonian Squire

    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Adelaide, Australia

    Vanguard of the Forsaken

    W/

    Looks like a fantastic split, will have to try =)

    Coloneh

    Coloneh

    Furnace Stoker

    Join Date: Nov 2006

    D/W

    I spy 3 ursans and a tank. This might work fast with good coordination, but ill bet my car a team with good builds and the same coordination can destroy your times.

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    well if you think you can beat those times go for it. 10 K per team member that does.. with more than one source of authintic proof. but be cearful some people will accuse you of photo shop and you will get spammed in game a little bit by noobs that have no clue how to play as a team. but remember the core idea came from us regardless if anyone ever beats our time.

    Res Ipsi

    Res Ipsi

    Lion's Arch Merchant

    Join Date: May 2006

    Canada

    Angel Sharks [As]

    Me/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Th Fooster
    but remember the core idea came from us regardless if anyone ever beats our time. No, it didn't. Splitting has been around for a while.

    Martin Alvito

    Martin Alvito

    Older Than God (1)

    Join Date: Aug 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

    I think that Fooster is referring to the dual Terra split combined with the Sin getting Unwanted Guests out of the way while other people do other things.

    Additionally, it took a fair amount of tweaking to come up with a split sequence where everything got done on the splits simultaneously.

    Split may have been around for a while, but dismissing this as "split" would be sort of like claiming that sin split had been around since War Machine did it back in Factions, and that the modern sin split with hexes that RenO and other Asian guilds pioneered wasn't innovative.

    Lord Bleyz

    Lord Bleyz

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

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    I didn't start this thread with the intentions of it turning into a flame war. So everyone please use courtesy when posting your opinions.

    My intentions with this post was to share this method with the guild wars community for the simple reason that most of the people that I play with in UW are either in my guild or friends. We all have lives outside of GW and schedules/timezones often conflict. We're constantly taking new people who are clueless as to our methods, and although they mean well, these people cost us valuable time.

    With this post I'm hoping that the public will embrace this method so we can draw from a larger pool of players without time lost on explanations, restarts, and epic failures. Who knows perhaps there is a better method and I hope the community finds it. That said we're certainly trying to be innovative, if not original, in our approach to elite areas.

    I'm glad I could share this with all of you, and most of my guildies/friends feel the same.

    Good luck, have fun, and more end chests faster for everyone!!

    romeus petrus

    romeus petrus

    Jungle Guide

    Join Date: Jun 2006

    Urgoz Warren

    Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

    Bleyz, tyvm for sharing with the community your technique and sequence of splitting. I think the idea of 2 Terra Tanks + 1 sin is a very innovative idea and you guys did a gj tweaking it.

    Mordiego

    Mordiego

    Furnace Stoker

    Join Date: Sep 2007

    Pozna??, UTC+1

    We Are From Poland [Pol]

    N/A

    Leaving my full recommendation here. Done dozens of UW runs, but this option is certainly the fastest I tried. Thnx Bleyz

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    ok i would just like to point out that our tactics posted here are alpplicable to a non ursan balanced team as well since we only reallu use the ursan for faster damage and chain KD to control the massive agro we grab sometimes.
    However a balance no pve skills build will still get under an hour once these tactics are mastered. now there is more than one way to skin a cat. 1 good efficent fire ele can do cahin KD for 20 secons. good meaning not just some camp caster that spams meteor shower on rechrge even if there is only i moster running around.and the under used Foc necros... they ignore armor.

    there are many idas that can be incorperated into this very versatile strategey, and we hope to see more than just out little group implement it.

    challenge your skills! try these tactics and persevere through the learning curve! and you will bteat 1 hour timer every time.

    Lord Bleyz

    Lord Bleyz

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

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    Judging by the number of views I'd guess that a number of groups have tried this method by now. I'd really like to hear from the community, so please post some feed back on how your runs went or any positive suggestions/ideas/strategies for the build or format of this guide.

    PhoenixFive

    PhoenixFive

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    New Zealand

    Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

    Mo/

    I was 2nd terra in the 42 min run and play terra in the 35min run. this is the fastest way of UW HM and anyone that believes photoshop is the only way to get this time, can pm one of us ingame with an r10 non squishy+vent and well take u down and beat it in 35-45min tops. just because u dont know what teamwork and skill is doesnt mean these times are fake, obviously im not talking to most. However my group and i are little bit tired of being harrased and accused of lying in game. i highly recommend this build to any well organised team, but probably wont happen with a pug group.

    Mordiego

    Mordiego

    Furnace Stoker

    Join Date: Sep 2007

    Pozna??, UTC+1

    We Are From Poland [Pol]

    N/A

    now I just wonder what's like lowest, unbeatable time, since every other week former record is broken :P
    Plus I certify for these guys. I done a 45 minute run with them before they introduced 3 terra strategy. And Sharna... I wouldn't bother with nonbelievers

    Blue Banner

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Oct 2007

    Luck

    Mo/

    Thank you so much for posting this! That was a really detailed and clear guide, so I appreciate your time and efforts. It looks fun to do, and I'm going to see if I can get some people in my alliance interested in trying this out.

    Lord Bleyz

    Lord Bleyz

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

    W/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blue Banner
    Thank you so much for posting this! That was a really detailed and clear guide, so I appreciate your time and efforts. It looks fun to do, and I'm going to see if I can get some people in my alliance interested in trying this out. Thank you for posting a reply! In my opinion, nothing is more awesome then finishing Underworld in under an hour when most Ursan groups don't finish in less then an 1:40mins. Please post some feed back when you've completed your runs and rate my thread! Thanks again.

    Blue Banner

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Oct 2007

    Luck

    Mo/

    Alright, here's our update :-)
    We went down a couple time with the solo sin and terra tanks and some heroes just to train on our respective parts. And the terra tank for the smites/coldfires has found that using a shield really helps during that part. Basically, damage is really low with the enchants, but heavy aggro that constantly does 2 to 8 damage points each adds up and could kill him.
    Also, he said that using an egg really helped there.

    Once we had the full team together, we tried the full thing last night. It was going really smoothly, quickly, and was really fun, but the group didn't kill one of the patrols by the reaper for the dryder queen...so when we were off about to do the chaos plains, the reaper died, and we all got kicked out :-(

    Today, we just tried again with a few new people, and we completed it successfully! It took a long time (about as long as an ursan run) but that wasn't a problem of the builds but a problem of the core team not knowing their aggro limits - where to run - where to fight, etc. I think we'll try again tonight and hopefully cut that time down by half.

    kerplonk

    Pre-Searing Cadet

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    [WWOC]

    for starters i'd like to say very well done with the guide. now on to the good stuff.

    my guild and i run a build with 3 terras, a similar solo sin, 2 ursans and an hb and sb, both with mimic for the other.

    after the ursans clear to wastes, one terra takes off to wastes and the other 2 terras sneak up the mountain and out to plains. one of them heads to pits and the other clears plains then heads on to pools. the only problem we've had with this is uncontrollable bad spawns of behemoths which require the ursan group to follow up the mountain and clear the way, in which case they will do mountain first instead of vale.

    after all groups are done, everybody ports to plains and a terra and the ursans take one side with the 2 terras standing on the other side in case one gets obby down. we havent been able to get a run under the one-con mark but usually get 30-40 min runs. XD

    Lord Bleyz

    Lord Bleyz

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kerplonk
    for starters i'd like to say very well done with the guide. now on to the good stuff.

    my guild and i run a build with 3 terras, a similar solo sin, 2 ursans and an hb and sb, both with mimic for the other.

    after the ursans clear to wastes, one terra takes off to wastes and the other 2 terras sneak up the mountain and out to plains. one of them heads to pits and the other clears plains then heads on to pools. the only problem we've had with this is uncontrollable bad spawns of behemoths which require the ursan group to follow up the mountain and clear the way, in which case they will do mountain first instead of vale.

    after all groups are done, everybody ports to plains and a terra and the ursans take one side with the 2 terras standing on the other side in case one gets obby down. we havent been able to get a run under the one-con mark but usually get 30-40 min runs. XD Funny, that is the exact build we are running these days. I'm going to Update the guide very soon. We've been running 3 terras and a sin for about a week now, our fastest time is 35mins.

    PhoenixFive

    PhoenixFive

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    New Zealand

    Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

    Mo/

    yes it is curious as to how u have found the exact same build we used considering we havnt posted our latest one, however it wouldnt be hard to figure out off our screen shots. perhaps someone in your group has ran with us before, id like to see who is in ur group and the ingame names. cuz we wouldnt want a rat now would we, nice times though huh

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    i for one am glad to see that people are starting to implement mrore efficient methods of doing UW runs. Yes we been doing that exact same thing for a week. I dont care who was in your group.
    Take our methods.Use them.post your own here. who cares really about the recognition, its all forgotten "who invented it" and no one cares "who" anyhow. i mean who invented the 55?
    iI can garanteed you out of the 1 million players at the time55 came out there wre probably 100,000
    people with the same idea. i thought i "invented the shock aftershock combo untill i seen monsters use it in the desert! Anet was waay ahead of me.I also thought i "invented" gale warriors.My point is.. i came up with the idea on my own.. as did thousands of others.I did not invent anything.
    Everyone is afraid that Anet will nerf them. everyone is holding on to thier little secrets scared to release them because anet has a well earned reputation for nerfing anything powerful.But they dont have to nerf terra tanks...or sins... or put some new monster in there to foul your clever plan.
    In fact, i think anet predicted most of these builds waay back when thye wre first choosing what skills to actually create in alpha stage of each campeign.
    They seen it coming a mile away whatever clever builds we come up with.
    Bugs and expliots are a different issue.But come on... really.Anet isnt going to smack themselves on the forhead in shock and amazment and say "wow we never thought of that, lets nerf it!"
    and once these methods grow in popularity, there will always be the pioneers that are looking outside the box... at yet another new way.That is the beauty of guild wars.letteraly thousands of skills to choose from out of 10 professions
    So dont be cheap! if you have an inovative idea test it out a few runs(the best ideas rarley work the first time) and post it somehwere! its those that share new methods of success that kee p guild wars intersting. No Anet ont nerf you just because you fan farm a hard mode chest in half an hour.That is just plain paranoia.

    odly

    Krytan Explorer

    Join Date: Jan 2006

    N/

    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for posting this.

    PhoenixFive

    PhoenixFive

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    New Zealand

    Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

    Mo/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kerplonk
    for starters i'd like to say very well done with the guide. now on to the good stuff.

    my guild and i run a build with 3 terras, a similar solo sin, 2 ursans and an hb and sb, both with mimic for the other.

    after the ursans clear to wastes, one terra takes off to wastes and the other 2 terras sneak up the mountain and out to plains. one of them heads to pits and the other clears plains then heads on to pools. the only problem we've had with this is uncontrollable bad spawns of behemoths which require the ursan group to follow up the mountain and clear the way, in which case they will do mountain first instead of vale.

    after all groups are done, everybody ports to plains and a terra and the ursans take one side with the 2 terras standing on the other side in case one gets obby down. we havent been able to get a run under the one-con mark but usually get 30-40 min runs. XD Actually we do care, not because u said u tried it but
    1)You made an account just to post that lie
    2)You have no screens of you OR your guild finishing that run
    3)Trying to take credit for a build you had no contribution to
    4)You're a pug who we took because we were short on guildies.
    You will always be a pug and we know who you are in game, and u will no longer be doing thse 30-40 min clears with us, so gl with ur pugway team.
    A big Thank You and Congrats to our team who made this build up it took us about 4 weeks to get from 56-35minutes but we did it and we did it in style, we have the screens, we are the members and we are the ORIGINAL creators AND runners of the build.

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PhoenixFive
    Actually we do care, not because u said u tried it but
    1)You made an account just to post that lie
    2)You have no screens of you OR your guild finishing that run
    3)Trying to take credit for a build you had no contribution to
    4)You're a pug who we took because we were short on guildies.
    You will always be a pug and we know who you are in game, and u will no longer be doing thse 30-40 min clears with us, so gl with ur pugway team.
    A big Thank You and Congrats to our team who made this build up it took us about 4 weeks to get from 56-35minutes but we did it and we did it in style, we have the screens, we are the members and we are the ORIGINAL creators AND runners of the build. The majority of the group is NOT of this opinin expressed here.
    and i dont want this thread to turn into a flame war because "recognition" is threatened.

    Speak for youself sharna.. i do NOT care who steals our build. let them!
    our entire purpose is to help the COMUNITY with our public posting of our builds.And not to be selfish elitists. As for insulting the guy that ran the same build did you ever consider that maybe he ran with us and smiply forgot WHO he was with? Not all pugs are noobs, and the point of our thread is to raise the level of play. YES i will take that guy again. and anyone else that wants to steal our build becauuse i am not interested in elitism. i would like a bigger playerbase to choose from so i dont have to wait 2 hours for one guy to come on!
    dont let this thread turn into a flame war by speaking on behalf of the group with opinions that we do not all share and insulting people that were smart enough to see a good thing and use it.

    PhoenixFive

    PhoenixFive

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    New Zealand

    Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

    Mo/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Th Fooster
    The majority of the group is NOT of this opinin expressed here.
    and i dont want this thread to turn into a flame war because "recognition" is threatened.

    Speak for youself sharna.. i do NOT care who steals our build. let them!
    our entire purpose is to help the COMUNITY with our public posting of our builds.And not to be selfish elitists. As for insulting the guy that ran the same build did you ever consider that maybe he ran with us and smiply forgot WHO he was with? Not all pugs are noobs, and the point of our thread is to raise the level of play. YES i will take that guy again. and anyone else that wants to steal our build becauuse i am not interested in elitism. i would like a bigger playerbase to choose from so i dont have to wait 2 hours for one guy to come on!
    dont let this thread turn into a flame war by speaking on behalf of the group with opinions that we do not all share and insulting people that were smart enough to see a good thing and use it. Well that did turn it into a flame war, i am speaking on behalf of part of the group who feel this way. yes i feel we do deserve recognition for it and why shouldnt we its a damn good build.
    I didnt mention names and the people coming on the runs is to be a group decision and the majority of the group including myself do not appretiate fame stealers. each to their own fooster i didnt mention u in that previous post and i also never once mention noobs. i said pugs. if it wasnt about recognition, delete your guide, delete bleys' guide and wait for another guild to post it up and claim it for their own, no you wouldnt like it. And if he was someone who ran with us and forgot who we are he must have amnesia to forget his own guild as he states, and if u have amnesia or elziemers how could you remeber the build down to the very detail? i wasnt speaking on behalf of our whole group simply making a very true statement which part of our group agree with i didnt degrade any1 and didnt mention names. and before u say we dont want recognition take a leaf out of your own book and speak for yourself. so before u start digging your hole i suggest you think about how deep u want it to be.

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PhoenixFive
    Well that did turn it into a flame war, i am speaking on behalf of part of the group who feel this way. yes i feel we do deserve recognition for it and why shouldnt we its a damn good build.
    I didnt mention names and the people coming on the runs is to be a group decision and the majority of the group including myself do not appretiate fame stealers. each to their own fooster i didnt mention u in that previous post and i also never once mention noobs. i said pugs. if it wasnt about recognition, delete your guide, delete bleys' guide and wait for another guild to post it up and claim it for their own, no you wouldnt like it. And if he was someone who ran with us and forgot who we are he must have amnesia to forget his own guild as he states, and if u have amnesia or elziemers how could you remeber the build down to the very detail? i wasnt speaking on behalf of our whole group simply making a very true statement which part of our group agree with i didnt degrade any1 and didnt mention names. and before u say we dont want recognition take a leaf out of your own book and speak for yourself. so before u start digging your hole i suggest you think about how deep u want it to be.
    I wrote the guide to answer the countless PM about terra tanking.
    Bleys wrote the guide in order to create a larger playerbase for us to choose
    from when we run this build to benefit the COMINUTY(theres that word again)
    You are the only one that i have seen upset about the recognition.
    And no i wouldnt care if some guild stole it and claimed it as thier own because there are alot of pugs out there that ran it with US FIRST, and our screenshots predate and claims to our build.
    Let the quality stand on its own and speak for youself here when you voice your "righteous" opinion.

    Now if you want a falme war start a new thread dont dirty up bleys's well written guide he has here. He spent alot of time on it. OR QQ in game at me and the rest of the group.leave it off this post.
    Either that or take your ball and go home.
    Think long and hard about thretening me about diging a hole.your the drama queen here. now stop

    Blue Banner

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Oct 2007

    Luck

    Mo/

    I have a question. If one terra is clearing smites/coldfires as the other two are doing bone pits & the dryder queen, who takes the Ice King quest for that terra? My guess is the sin after the team has completed Vale... Then the sin would do his thing against the keeper of souls/vengeful aataxes while the team did the Demon Assassin quest?? Thanks!

    Oh, and I'm glad that you all have worked in the 3rd Terra. We briefly noticed during our trial runs that a terra could have easily taken out those dryders for the dryder queen where as the team would sometimes struggle with over-aggro'ing in there. I'm glad you guys have worked out the kinks of this (especially Th Fooster - just saw that you updated your guide for this area to include the ward or I'm Unstoppable...saved us from learning this the hard way).

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    You guessed it! the sin sneaks off and takes the quest in ice wastes then runs back to either start or comeplet unwanted guests, depending on if the main group is slowed. if the main group is slowed down for some reason and the sin has to wait.. he starts unwanted prematurley and kills his way to ice waste. if all is rolling smooth... he waits untill he knows the main group is safe. then he runs off takes quest fot ice king then comes back and starts uwanted. once the terra has completed the quest in the ice wastes... he then starts to run to th mountain and it times out htat he re joins the main group at this point and the sin is also there wtih unwanted completed. kills that last keeper of souls there and runs up the mountain proceeding to either chaos planes or the mountain quest to mimic ursan and kelp the group kill faster.

    we will be updating this guide soon as you see this version only describs how to do it with only two terras.

    PhoenixFive

    PhoenixFive

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    New Zealand

    Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

    Mo/

    When working on the terra for pools as my main job for our clears, as fooster said having ward or Im unstoppable does help greatly,
    However i have noticed that you dont NEED it, it can be come very tricky timing your skills around the charged's shock but it is doable.
    So clearing through the pools taking for eg arcan echo for more dmg during plains/horsemen in place of ward isnt a set back provided your obby isnt interupted or itl spell your doom!
    The only other problem i encounterd was during fighting the queen the obsidian guardians kd with hits apparently, sometimes they do and sometimes they dont while not using ward so i am yet to discover why their kds happen. When testing i ran with ward in my bar for safety but used it as little as possible. The only suggestion i have for fighting queen without ward is to stand to the side of the room after pulling her into the doorway so sliver still hits her, but the behemoths attacks are blocked. Try it out if your keen for a little more damage in your bar, but try it with ward in you bar incase you agro 9 charged at a time :P

    chitown girl

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Nov 2005

    Lack of Talent [Luck]

    Mo/Me

    nice build...i'll have to try it with my guild thanks

    FiftyFiveD

    FiftyFiveD

    Krytan Explorer

    Join Date: Feb 2007

    California

    [UFC]

    Mo/E

    u guys rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Kurenai Fire Sensei

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    E/

    44 mins for my team but we could beat your 2 terra's team record
    When we will have a 40-41mins uw clear we will start the 3 terra's team. Hf

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    Well then! i am glad to see there are some that took our methods seriously enough to begin mastering them.I find it very encouraging as i have been showing several guild modified versions of this method because skilled as asassins are hard to find. but we did a 2 terra 39 minutes clear the other day with no asassin. if we had the asassin we would have hit the 35 minute mark for sure.

    remeber my chalenge still stands.. 10 k per team member to the one that bears the current record with more than one source of authentic proof.

    The guilds that are begining to master these tactics are now starting to reap the benefits after the frustrating learning curve and open that chest in under an hour every time.pretty sooon all you will see in toa are asassins and terra tanks and a few monks!

    Lord Bleyz

    Lord Bleyz

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Mar 2006

    Clan Dethryche [dth]

    W/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
    44 mins for my team but we could beat your 2 terra's team record
    When we will have a 40-41mins uw clear we will start the 3 terra's team. Hf Congratulations, 44 minutes is very impressive. Shortly before starting our 3 Terra Build, we were on track to beating our 42 min time but we had a Terra ,I will not name any names, who made a mistake and cost us the run. But these times are all in good fun.

    My teams original goal with this method was to do UW HM in under an hour, we've more then met that goal, and I'm glad I was able to share this with the community. Very soon I'm going to write up a complete guide to UW HM with the 3 Terra method, as it is a far superior build. Our current record is 29 minutes, on 1 con set.

    PS. Be sure to get multiple screen shots when you beat our records

    Mordiego

    Mordiego

    Furnace Stoker

    Join Date: Sep 2007

    Pozna??, UTC+1

    We Are From Poland [Pol]

    N/A

    anxiously waiting for the updated guide, Bleyz and thnx again for your (not taking the glory away from Foos, Sharna, Tis and the rest of the method's developers) great contribution. Glad you decided to make the build public so more ppl would benefit from your discoveries.
    Keep it up and C U again in UW

    Th Fooster

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

    Mo/

    I am seeing even pugs try half assed versions (sort of) whith this method.
    2 terra tank builds are more and more common now, and more and more teams are starting to realize how perfectly things time out when you send 1 terra off to smties right away while the team clears out town and does the quest there(including escort of souls) all at once. This is becoming common place now as i have been in many pugs that use this method. very few guilds have actually pulled of a sucessful full split the way we do it, but it shows our methods posted are slowly having thier effect, even though most teams clear in an hour flat, its better taht the one time average of at LEAST 90 minuts. As for the glory, bahh. it takes all 8 of us to actually pull this off.Each individual player on that team is able to stand tall on thier own two feet with thier individual skills,
    and me and bleys are simply they guys that wrote it all down.We dont play together exclusivley anymore, but our methods are spreading out to the comunity as intended. my chalenge still stands. And i personaly at least am already working on new ways once again and working out the bugs, and my terra tanking guide is being updated once again soon.
    i am absolutley positive taht teh true fastest time is 20 minutes.This is the ultimete goal but for now ill go or 1 minute at a time. 28 minutes is still few seconds faster than 29 minutes.. and so on...
    one minute at a time its posible to shave it down.

    Kurenai Fire Sensei

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    E/

    New record for us 43 mins, but the cool thing is that this time we are whitout assa.

    Kurenai Fire Sensei

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    E/

    Ok next time we will beat your 3terra uw clear record. XD
    Here new 2 terras uw clear record (whit assa this time) 39 mins

    Sinister Syndicate

    Ascalonian Squire

    Join Date: May 2008

    Texas

    E/

    [UuwC] Guild and couple Others not in guild Did a 32min UW HM Clear!

    Hey Fooster I'm working on my Sin for the other build. Well I used this one I found on some webby!

    Kurenai Fire Sensei

    Academy Page

    Join Date: Apr 2008

    E/

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sinister Syndicate
    [UuwC] Guild and couple Others not in guild Did a 32min UW HM Clear!

    Hey Fooster I'm working on my Sin for the other build. Well I used this one I found on some webby! That is a 3 terras team :-/

    Btw 36 mins for us whit 2 terra and no assa..

    Nilo

    Frost Gate Guardian

    Join Date: Mar 2007

    Mo/A


    we gained about 3 mins whitout the sin but now we need a sin for beat new records.
    lf experienced sin rank 10 SS and rank 10 norn(we want try 2 terras build)

    ign Nilo The Healer or Kurenai Fire Sensei.