To all that whine about ursan/cheap builds
Kyrein
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/featu...ToWinPart1.htm
i recommend you read that
and please, do not say "OMGZ THAT GUY IS A CHEAP NOOB"
i recommend you read that
and please, do not say "OMGZ THAT GUY IS A CHEAP NOOB"
mr_groovy
OMGZ THAT GUY IS A CHEAP NuB
So his end conclusion is to get better, Ursan fails at getting better.
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I submit that ultimate goal of the “playing to win” mindset is ironically not just to win…but to improve. So practice, improve, play with discipline, and play to win. |
Dark Kal
The Ursan issue is really simple: The majority of players use Ursan (something Ursan haters always complain about) hence the majority of GW players like Ursan, since they wouldn't be playing it if the hated it, therefor the minority of Ursan haters should STFU.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/featu...ToWinPart1.htm
i recommend you read that and please, do not say "OMGZ THAT GUY IS A CHEAP NOOB" |
Kyrein
i lol
neither of you understood the part about cheapness and scrubs i see
it applies to all gameplay
whatever wins, the scrubs will call it cheap
and shuuda, are economies non-competitive?
also, groovy, there is the bit about "scrubs cannot improve unless they remove their own home-made rules"
neither of you understood the part about cheapness and scrubs i see
it applies to all gameplay
whatever wins, the scrubs will call it cheap
and shuuda, are economies non-competitive?
also, groovy, there is the bit about "scrubs cannot improve unless they remove their own home-made rules"
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
i lol
neither of you understood the part about cheapness and scrubs i see |
Kyrein
........neither of you read it all and understood it, did you?
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
........neither of you read it all and understood it did you?
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You may think that Ursan wins, but what does it win? Something that takes no skill anyway? Does it improve you? No. does it help you in PvP? No. Where does it get you as far as what truely matters in this game? Nowhere. A scrub is someone who holds themselves back, and that's what playing Ursan does, it holds you back from PvP and becoming good.
Kyrein
i give up on you poor, stupid people
Angelic Upstart
I skimmed through it, just a load of elitist bollocks.
As far as i am concerned the word scrub, is one used by people who have a self inflated sense of worth to describe someone they think of as being beneath them.
i give up on you poor, stupid people
Here is a classic example....
As far as i am concerned the word scrub, is one used by people who have a self inflated sense of worth to describe someone they think of as being beneath them.
i give up on you poor, stupid people
Here is a classic example....
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
neither of you understood the part about cheapness and scrubs i see
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Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
i give up on you poor, stupid people
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Yes, call me elitist, deny the facts if you wish.
Sjeng
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Doing one move or sequence over and over and over is another great way to get called cheap. This goes right to the heart of the matter: why can the scrub not defeat something so obvious and telegraphed as a single move done over and over? Is he such a poor player that he can’t counter that move? And if the move is, for whatever reason, extremely difficult to counter, then wouldn’t I be a fool for not using that move? The first step in becoming a top player is the realization that playing to win means doing whatever most increases your chances of winning. The game knows no rules of “honor” or of “cheapness.” The game only knows winning and losing. A common call of the scrub is to cry that the kind of play in which ones tries to win at all costs is “boring” or “not fun.” Let’s consider two groups of players: a group of good players and a group of scrubs. The scrubs will play “for fun” and not explore the extremities of the game. They won’t find the most effective tactics and abuse them mercilessly. The good players will. The good players will find incredibly overpowering tactics and patterns. |
Secondly: This quote implies that the good players would use a certain skill over and over to win (ursan). The scrubs would use different skills and therefore not play to win. Which, imo, is utter nonsense. You play however YOU want to play. End of story. Ursan haters might call ursan lovers cheap, but I couldn't care less.
Conclusion: (as stated in multiple ursan QQ threads): play the way YOU want to play, and stop whining about how others play. Let people use Ursan if they want to. Do not use it if you don't want to. Stop the blasted QQing already. please please close this thread. It's totally irrelevant.
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In PvE you don't need skills to win, you can C-space it all. |
Sigh. now this thread has not only become another Ursan QQ thread, but also a "PvP>PvE" thread. God. *walks out of thread*
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
i give up on you poor, stupid people
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the majority of ursan haters can perform better in a well balanced team than the average ursan lasyer anyway, making what your saying rediculous.
Ursan is like using cheats in an offline game to boost your stats, using it in such a game "to win" because you cannot beat the game the way others can does not make you better than those that dont need them. Quite the reverse.
Shuuda
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THAT, is a personal opinion, to which I do not agree at ALL. Moreover, I find it insulting. Sigh. now this thread has not only become another Ursan QQ thread, but also a "PvP>PvE" thread. God. *walks out of thread* |
ANd I perfer to call them PvE denialfests.
Kamatsu
This thread is going nowhere fast. Closing before it degenerates further.. oh and a whine about whining = fail