Hi i am starting a poll to ask anet to do something about the vengeful ataxes un teh unwanted guest quest un UW.
My reason is ToA is now full of ursan haters that join groups and ten take that quest AND escort of souls on purpose to make the group FAIL.
This is thier form of amusement. they think its funny to make someone waste 7-8k on a set of consumables, and wipe the party. unfair to the other 7 players, and sicce they havent really violated any rulles in teh user agreement, they cant get banned to sabatoging groups and its hard ot prove.
therefore i have a few suggestions for Anet to make it so that either the vengeful ataxes will die weather they are agroed or not once the keper is dead, OR make that quest not even available untill the escort of souls is complete. Its sad aht there are scrubs out there that deliberatley sabotage other peoples fun and cost them all money. the vengeful ataxes the weay the are now make the quest harder..
and making them die regardles of agro would make the quest too easy.
Another suggestion is that unwanted guests not even become available from that particular reaper.Rather have the reaper in the forgotten vale offer it so the group at least has a chance to recover despit the saboteur.
Poll to have Anet change Unwanted Guests Quest
Th Fooster
sheepush
Or there can be a slight change to this specific quest that all party must take the quest by themselves to trigger the appearance of the vengful aataxe.
When the ursan hater get the quest and other party don't it will just not activate.
When the ursan hater get the quest and other party don't it will just not activate.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by sheepush
Or there can be a slight change to this specific quest that all party must take the quest by themselves to trigger the appearance of the vengful aataxe.
When the ursan hater get the quest and other party don't it will just not activate. |
Have a nice day.
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On side note, are you sure its "ursan haters" and not just plain idiots who have no clue what they are doing? Paranoia much?
Don't assume malice when plain idiocy is enough.
Griefing people is not way to make them stop doing whatever they want anyway. Who the hell would waste their time on bunch of scrubs?
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Vaal 84
What he said. I have No sympathy for people who fail playing ursan whatsoever.
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I too am annoyed with people taking quests way too early, but most of the time they are just noobs, who deserve to get a beating for not listening to their team.
When people are deliberately screwing up the party, I'd suggest sending in a support ticket, with the name of the screw-up, and pictures/chatlog which prove that person deliberatley is being an ass. This only works of that person is saying something along the lines of "I screwed you up good Ursan ****'s".
Be adviced though, that person could as well be a firsttimer.
Balan Makki
Griefing is Bannable. Report IT.
garethporlest18
If Guild Wars would better, there would be no need for Ursan. Since it's not we have Ursan so the haters are just QQing cause their game sucks.
But yeah griefing is reportable and I think that you might be able to get a ban out of that if it happens again, but who knows.
But yeah griefing is reportable and I think that you might be able to get a ban out of that if it happens again, but who knows.
Schmerdro
Wow, apparently Th Fooster shouldn't have mentioned "Ursan" at all since it doesn't have anything to do with what he's saying. If he simply stated that his party wasted their expensive consumables because a saboteur took the wrong quest (yes, it was a saboteur otherwise he would have listened and only take the quest he was told to take on Team Chat/Vent), all the Ursan haters wouldn't have been such ***holes and maybe replied to what the topic is actually about.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Schmerdro
Wow, apparently Th Fooster shouldn't have mentioned "Ursan" at all since it doesn't have anything to do with what he's saying. If he simply stated that his party wasted their expensive consumables because a saboteur took the wrong quest (yes, it was a saboteur otherwise he would have listened and only take the quest he was told to take on Team Chat/Vent), all the Ursan haters wouldn't have been such ***holes and maybe replied to what the topic is actually about.
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PS: If you're sad about losing consumable costs, don't use consumables.
distilledwill
Its someones choice to play Ursan, if you dont like it, dont use it. But theres no sense in sabotaging innocent players games. Its just malicious and unnecassery.
As people have said, I think that form of greifing is reportable.
As people have said, I think that form of greifing is reportable.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Schmerdro
Wow, apparently Th Fooster shouldn't have mentioned "Ursan" at all since it doesn't have anything to do with what he's saying. If he simply stated that his party wasted their expensive consumables because a saboteur took the wrong quest (yes, it was a saboteur otherwise he would have listened and only take the quest he was told to take on Team Chat/Vent), all the Ursan haters wouldn't have been such ***holes and maybe replied to what the topic is actually about.
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Therefore you need solid proof that person is indeed a saboteur, and not just some random UW-firsttimer.
Ancient Menace
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
As ursan hater, i simply wouldn't take that quest thus preventing group from completing it and completing UW. Much more fun when groups wastes 1 hour instead of 5 minutes.
Have a nice day. --- On side note, are you sure its "ursan haters" and not just plain idiots who have no clue what they are doing? Paranoia much? Don't assume malice when plain idiocy is enough. Griefing people is not way to make them stop doing whatever they want anyway. Who the hell would waste their time on bunch of scrubs? |
You know what? He can play the game that he paid good money for however he wants and nobody, not even you smarmy elitist
holes should be able to do anything about it. /signed, and just because of players like this I think that Ursan should be buffed. Just to piss them off.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
I'd probably assume idiocy more often than malice.
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Avarre
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Originally Posted by Ancient Menace
You know what? He can play the game that he paid good money for however he wants and nobody, not even you smarmy elitist
holes should be able to do anything about it. /signed, and just because of players like this I think that Ursan should be buffed. Just to piss them off. |
As I said before, this has always been an issue - usually from ignorance. If you're pugging, especially with something simplistic like Ursan, you should expect clueless players who don't listen to instructions. Deal with it like everyone else and don't ask for a change to hold your hand.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Avarre
As I said before, this has always been an issue - usually from ignorance. If you're pugging, especially with something simplistic like Ursan, you should expect clueless players who don't listen to instructions. Deal with it like everyone else and don't ask for a change to hold your hand.
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Just make it past "griefable" things and them burn your 7k. If you suspect someone is griefer, make HIM use consumables.
Calling gestapo on them also works.
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Originally Posted by qazwersder
Doesnt work like that, the group only needs to have completed all the quests, not recieved all the rewards. It is only necessary for one member to have the quest completed.
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Not that i condone griefing. Its pointless waste of time for all parties.
Transluecent51
I think alot hate that, but where ever you go you will get idiots...deal. WTB a good guild call out for these reasons.
Zahr Dalsk
An idea would be to not use consumables. People have been doing HM UW since long before Eye of the North. Why do you suddenly need them now?
Rushin Roulette
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Originally Posted by Ancient Menace
You know what? He can play the game that he paid good money for however he wants and nobody, not even you smarmy elitist
holes should be able to do anything about it. /signed, and just because of players like this I think that Ursan should be buffed. Just to piss them off. |
and on topic now.
That quest has been a noob/griefer trap since people first discovered it from the Reaper. Ursan didnt change it... it just gave more noobs/grieffers access to it.
The quest is fine as it is, its an "Elite" area after all, so you should have at least minimum knowledge or reading skills to be successfull there. But it would be nice if the Aatxes did disapear with the Targets even if they are still agroed... but I can take a guess that this has something to do with the game mechanics and not out of spite/to make the quest harder.
EDITED: Typos
masta_yoda
imo make the quest when keeper dies aatxe dies , pretty retarded, i had atleast 4 restarts out of 10 groups usually because of this
Songbringer
Wow people are a$$ holes. Even the comments in thread are ignorant.
Only thing you can do is try to report before he leaves(which btw when are they going to let you report people not in same area/district) or just run with guildies.
Only thing you can do is try to report before he leaves(which btw when are they going to let you report people not in same area/district) or just run with guildies.
Tarkin
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Originally Posted by Songbringer
Wow people are a$$ holes. Even the comments in thread are ignorant.
Only thing you can do is try to report before he leaves(which btw when are they going to let you report people not in same area/district) or just run with guildies. |
zwei2stein
Think about it this way: Bearway gives shot at getting UW statue and getting to loot at end to people which never made it past first room or even never attempted UW at all.
Not only that, once they learn HOW-TOs they complete UW and never come back as they have tons of other elite areas to complete. Thus "noob" ratio of people wanting to do full UW run is pretty constant and as even really casual people approach maxing norn rank, it might even go up.
And seriously, some people think that when group leader tells them not to take quest he is trying to screw them from loot or something those lines. For real. Not that i blame them given that FoW "dont open unlocked chest or drops will suck" means that someone wants shot at opening it alone and hopes for getting purple crystaline drop with 8 times better odds..
Not only that, once they learn HOW-TOs they complete UW and never come back as they have tons of other elite areas to complete. Thus "noob" ratio of people wanting to do full UW run is pretty constant and as even really casual people approach maxing norn rank, it might even go up.
And seriously, some people think that when group leader tells them not to take quest he is trying to screw them from loot or something those lines. For real. Not that i blame them given that FoW "dont open unlocked chest or drops will suck" means that someone wants shot at opening it alone and hopes for getting purple crystaline drop with 8 times better odds..
Trub
I'm not posting this to 'bash' anyone that chooses to use blessings instead of skills....Knowing this is an elite area, accesable AFTER some extreme effort to get there...
To the OP:
When you made your team for this ELITE area run, did YOU explain to your teamates the importance of only 1 person speaking to the reaper? (Prefferably team leader.)
If there was any doubt as to the others attitudes ( gogogo kids, ragers, griefers ect.),
Why didn't YOU choose to see the signs of potential failure BEFORE scrolling, or paying to go in? ( Thank the Gods for those last minute skill bar pings and tweaks..
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I can't see a succesful run coming to anyone.... that isn't prepared ahead of time.
But, that is the price one pays when they think they can just aggro and kill.
EDIT: English...FTW
To the OP:
When you made your team for this ELITE area run, did YOU explain to your teamates the importance of only 1 person speaking to the reaper? (Prefferably team leader.)
If there was any doubt as to the others attitudes ( gogogo kids, ragers, griefers ect.),
Why didn't YOU choose to see the signs of potential failure BEFORE scrolling, or paying to go in? ( Thank the Gods for those last minute skill bar pings and tweaks..
)I can't see a succesful run coming to anyone.... that isn't prepared ahead of time.
But, that is the price one pays when they think they can just aggro and kill.
EDIT: English...FTW
Malice Black
I'd care but...I don't.
UW is fine as it is. Taking that quest is good fun anyway
sorts the men from the noobs
UW is fine as it is. Taking that quest is good fun anyway
Doctor of Rocks
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Originally Posted by Avarre
People have been taking the quest despite instructions not to since the start of Guild Wars. The solutions now are the same as then - don't group with people you're not sure of in areas where it can be so critical.
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Arduin
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Originally Posted by Angelic Upstart
If you are struggling with Ursanway in UW, then there is really no hope for you.
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This thread isn't about Ursan, it's about people being an ass towards the rest of their party.
Mr Face
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
As ursan hater, i simply wouldn't take that quest thus preventing group from completing it and completing UW. Much more fun when groups wastes 1 hour instead of 5 minutes.
Have a nice day. |
Have a nice day.
Back on topic:
Try not to go in PUG groups, find yourself a good guild or a group of trusted friends to go and farm with, that way you can be sure your run will go smoothly
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
Seriously, did you even read the posts?
This thread isn't about Ursan, it's about people being an ass towards the rest of their party. |
Atually if you read the OP again you will see in plain english that it says URSAN haters
Commander Ryker
Due to all the flaming and trolling, this thread has been closed.