if you complete a mission on Hard mode get masters- or equivalent shouldnt it count for the normal mode as well? i think so hard mode is much harder then normal. and it would make it so people who are going for a title can get them much easer its not like they need to prove that they need to do it.
sorry if someone already made a thread about this i search and found nothing. plz no flames
if you complete a mission on Hard mode
Zesbeer
jiggles
no it shouldnt, you didnt do it in nm just hm. two completely different things.
Tyla
If you can do it in HM, then you should be able to do it in NM.
N1ghtstalker
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If you can do it in HM, then you should be able to do it in NM.
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when you do it HM masters you should be more then able to get it in masters NM
/notsigned and /close pls
MagmaRed
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it would make it so people who are going for a title can get them much easer
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That is the only reason I needed to /unsign.
Horseman Of War
/signed
Because I hate gayla hatchery.
...this will never happen tho...
Because I hate gayla hatchery.
...this will never happen tho...
Zesbeer
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no it shouldnt, you didnt do it in nm just hm. two completely different things.
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N1ghtstalker
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oh man there soooooo different. um no its the exact same but with different lvl monsters. with the exception of factions where they change the time it takes, for good reason. so why should i have to go back and beat it again in normal mode? or an even better idea if you get the title Guardian of ___ you should also be reward the title Protector of ____ the same area this would eliminate a lot of grind.
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not a good idea to me
jiggles
so when you have all your titles what are you gonna do then? whine about how boring the game is and what anet should add to make it more intresting? whereas if theyd have just stuck with this system you would still have things to do
thats asusming they did change it which is never going to happen
thats asusming they did change it which is never going to happen
Eldin
/signed
It's only logical. How would rewards work though?
The timed missions would work odd for rankings too though, but if we're lucky ANet calculated their HM timers by percentage so they can simply undo them to find the NM equivalent.
It's only logical. How would rewards work though?
The timed missions would work odd for rankings too though, but if we're lucky ANet calculated their HM timers by percentage so they can simply undo them to find the NM equivalent.
Zesbeer
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so when you have all your titles what are you gonna do then? whine about how boring the game is and what anet should add to make it more intresting? whereas if theyd have just stuck with this system you would still have things to do
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Tyla
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so when you have all your titles what are you gonna do then? whine about how boring the game is and what anet should add to make it more intresting? whereas if theyd have just stuck with this system you would still have things to do
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Although I didn't sign, grind isn't fun, but it's mainly next to effortless in NM.
Voltaic Annihilator
/unsigned...i had to go back and do all the prot titles...then when hardmode came out...i did those too now shutup
DarkFlame
They are two different titles, if you want them, work for them.
/notsigned
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Zesbeer
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They are two different titles, if you want them, work for them.
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HawkofStorms
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/signed
Doing the same mission twice, once again on NM once you've already done in on HM doesn't show player skill or ability. Its not like you are showing your prowless at repeating a mission in NM you've already mastered in HM. It is the very definition of grind... uneccessary and repetitive activity that is done soley for some sort of in game reward (granted, a lot like most titles now anyways).
Edit: All the people trolling with "shut up" are just people who are angry that this option didn't exist when they got their title. Its like the people who got Cartographer before texmod calling people who get the title now "cheaters." They are doing the exact same thing you did, you are just mad that certain things came out to "devalue" your title.
Clarissa F
"I remember back in my day, we had to walk 10 miles to school in the snow. Uphill. Both ways."
If you bust through it in hard mode, it's redundant to have to go back in NM. I believe a part of progress is getting rid of redundancy.
If you bust through it in hard mode, it's redundant to have to go back in NM. I believe a part of progress is getting rid of redundancy.
Zesbeer
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You mean it would be less grind
/signed Doing the same mission twice, once again on NM once you've already done in on HM doesn't show player skill or ability. Its not like you are showing your prowless at repeating a mission in NM you've already mastered in HM. It is the very definition of grind... uneccessary and repetitive activity that is done soley for some sort of in game reward (granted, a lot like most titles now anyways). Edit: All the people trolling with "shut up" are just people who are angry that this option didn't exist when they got their title. Its like the people who got Cartographer before texmod calling people who get the title now "cheaters." They are doing the exact same thing you did, you are just mad that certain things came out to "devalue" your title. |
Courage!
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then u could get both titles at same time were would be the fun in that?
then u could get both titles at same time were would be the fun in that?
Thierry2
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They are two different titles, if you want them, work for them.
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Arduin
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if you read the thread you would know that i have.
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Anyways, this suggestion is about people being lazy again. If anyone calls redoing the mission in NM on more time grinding, they haven't got a clue what grinding is.
So you can do the missions on HM, therefore you can do it on NM, therefore you need to get both rewarded at the same time?
Look at me! I can open a chest, I sure can open another one...why doesn't it give me max title immidiately?
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BlackSephir
Rofl
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HM and NM are not the same things so it's not even grinding.
/notsigned
HM and NM are not the same things so it's not even grinding.
Zesbeer
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Rofl
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i would also like to point out it would only work one way ie if you complete a hm mission it would cover the normal mode mission. and not the other way around.
MithranArkanere
If you made all missions before HM you got Protector, and you had to make them all again to get Guardian.
So it's only logical to make things the opposite way if you made Guardian first.
There's nothing to discuss here. Too many people had to make them all twice, and there are even some Missions that are easier in HM.
YES, THEY ARE.
One good example is Augury Rock.
That doppleganger kills itself in under 5 seconds in HM, while in NM always takes longer with the same build.
HM is different because enemies have increased speed, so punish skills affect them much more.
So it's only logical to make things the opposite way if you made Guardian first.
There's nothing to discuss here. Too many people had to make them all twice, and there are even some Missions that are easier in HM.
YES, THEY ARE.
One good example is Augury Rock.
That doppleganger kills itself in under 5 seconds in HM, while in NM always takes longer with the same build.
HM is different because enemies have increased speed, so punish skills affect them much more.
Solas
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people who are going for a title can get them much easer its not like they need to prove that they need to do it.
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BlackSephir
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please explain to me why they arent the same thing the last time i checked the only difference is time and high lvl monsters. if you noticed i said nothing about getting the reward in the op. thats something else some one else tagged on. if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.
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payne
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oh man there soooooo different. um no its the exact same but with different lvl monsters. with the exception of factions where they change the time it takes, for good reason. so why should i have to go back and beat it again in normal mode? or an even better idea if you get the title Guardian of ___ you should also be reward the title Protector of ____ the same area this would eliminate a lot of grind.
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HawkofStorms
This is really pathetic.
The best arguement against this is "they didn't have this when I got Guardian/Protector, so they shouldn't add it for everybody, even though it makes sense."
The best arguement against this is "they didn't have this when I got Guardian/Protector, so they shouldn't add it for everybody, even though it makes sense."
MithranArkanere
No, it does not make sense.
HM and NM and NOT the same.
You can only vanquish in HM, for example. It's in the same area, but the game rules are different.
HM and NM and NOT the same.
You can only vanquish in HM, for example. It's in the same area, but the game rules are different.
Chronos the Defiler
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if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone
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IMO, if any changes should be made to this system is that you should be required to complete a mission in NM before you can even enter in HM.
MithranArkanere
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How is it not fair to everyone now? if someone cba to do it in NM, then it is not an issue of fairness, it is an issue of laziness.
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MagmaRed
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This is really pathetic.
The best arguement against this is "they didn't have this when I got Guardian/Protector, so they shouldn't add it for everybody, even though it makes sense." |
I want my level 20 Monk to get credit for a HM and NM Hero Handbook for doing the quests in HM. I'm only rank 4 in the titles, so I can use both books still
/unsigned still
Arduin
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if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.
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Zesbeer
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i love how people take short bits and twist them to have them say what they want.
Red Sand
/notsigned.
I worked hard to get my Protector title, you work hard for your Guardian title. Have a nice day.
That's hillarious. I'd sign that one.
I worked hard to get my Protector title, you work hard for your Guardian title. Have a nice day.
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freaky naughty
/signed c'mon logically if you do it in HM doing it again in NM is going to be no problem and is going to be worthless grind. If you do a mission in Hm and try it again in NM its like getting on your epic pokemon red version killing the elite four then getting your pokemon to lvl 100 and doing it again.
MithranArkanere
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/signed c'mon logically if you do it in HM doing it again in NM is going to be no problem and is going to be worthless grind. If you do a mission in Hm and try it again in NM its like getting on your epic pokemon red version killing the elite four then getting your pokemon to lvl 100 and doing it again.
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They are different.
Fear Me!
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Can I please have titles for NM Vanquishing then? Can I fill my Hero Handbook at the same time as my Hard Mode Hero Handbook too? This is the snowball that starts an avalanche. I got Guardian and Protector on my main character a long time ago. However, I only have Protector on my other characters. I still have Guardian to do. Am I upset that this idea would mean I 'wasted' time doing the Protectot titles? No, I'm against it because it makes no sense to me. HM and NM are different. You may want to say it is only the skills, IAS, movement, recharge, etc. of the monster that changed, but THAT IS DIFFERENT. NM you can comlpete a mission with 1 Monk and 5 players. Try that on HM and you will have a difficlut time. This changes the make up of your team. Just because NM is easier, does not mean you should get credit without doing it.
I want my level 20 Monk to get credit for a HM and NM Hero Handbook for doing the quests in HM. I'm only rank 4 in the titles, so I can use both books still /unsigned still |