More Practical Title Benefits

bttgw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

I think that there shld be some practical benefits for achieving max titles instead of merely displaying them.

I think a good way to implement this is to let guards in respawn point to buff the party if any character has the relevant max title for 50g each buff

Example of buffs link to titles:
Increase of 10% movement for achieving maxing Cartography
Increase of 15% atk dmg for achieving maxing Vanquisher
Increase of 10 armour for achieving maxing guardian
+1 to all skill attributes for achieving maxing skill hunter

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

W/

I wouldn't mind interesting things happening because of titles, but your examples seem completely overpowered.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Guild Wars needs less grinding benefits, not more.

/notsigned

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Mo/

Aye, Randvek is right.. they are overpowered.
But i'd like to see more title benefits.

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Guild Wars needs less grinding benefits, not more.

/notsigned
absolutely agreed.
Linking skills to titles is already too much in my opinion.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

God walking amongst mere mortals should give me the ability to kick anyone from the game.

Laughing Bat

Laughing Bat

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[HoNk]

Me/

any title that actualy effects gameplay = fail in my opinion.

Minime The Shadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

England (south)

Order Of Universal Spirit

R/

lol what are all these bluffs? its not somebody tricking you
they are buffs

/not signed - over powered ideas and pve is easy enough as it is, if you need them then you need to change your team set-up or personal style.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Even tho I have them I say hell no. Might sound fun but overpowerd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
God walking amongst mere mortals should give me the ability to kick anyone from the game.
This on the other hand sounds like pure fun.

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
God walking amongst mere mortals should give me the ability to kick anyone from the game.
It should give you the ability to kick yourself. Go outside.

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

Hell no. having a distinct advantage over somebody else because you grinded a title for ages is what we need less of in this game.

jayson

jayson

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

It would be nice if there were more pets to get by getting higher title ranks. I thought the rainbow pheonix was pretty cool. Or maybe you could unlock a day/night option for the game? Perhaps you can unlock a specific zone change. Have a certain area regrow in Ascalon or have the ability to call upon any avatar when you want whether you have favor or not. Bearing in mind you still need to pay for the benefits. Or give a player all access to priests/blessings in Kurzick or luxon territory and allow them to choose what faction they want to collect.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDusT II
Hell no. having a distinct advantage over somebody else because you grinded a title for ages is what we need less of in this game.
Welcome to GWEN?

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
God walking amongst mere mortals should give me the ability to kick anyone from the game.
or maybe give you a halo...at all times (hide option)and not an armor piece..

or both

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Welcome to GWEN?
Yes. Hence the "we need less of" statement. GWEN was bad enough, this suggestion is just ridiculous.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
It should give you the ability to kick yourself. Go outside.


Though tbh, it actually didn't take very long. Canthan and Elonian vanq were pretty easy with paragons and rits, and Tyrian vanq was just a lot of cspace with sabway while doing homework. I know back when Ensign and Torsen and those guys did the droks vanq before super broken builds were used, it took them 6+ hours or something, and I finished it in 2 with all H/H.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by bttgw
I think that
You should play other game than GW.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Well.

Let's remember some things here:
1. The benefit from getting achievement titles maxed is getting them maxed. NOTHING ELSE. Protector, Guardian, Cartographer, etc. Should NOT and will NOT have any benefits. That's something that will NEVER change.

2. The benefit from getting plot-related grind titles maxed it's always linked to skills. In this case, the only change that could come is a title effect for Sunspear and separating the title effect from the bounties in kurzick. And maybe some skills more in lightbringer. But just that. Skills.

3. The benefits from getting pure grind titles increased vary:
- Lucky: Affects lockpicks. It could have another effect (the one that would correspond to unlucky)
- Unlucky: It's a side-effect title, so it's part of the lucky title and should have no benefits. Any extra benefit meant to this title should go to the lucky title instead.
- Wisdom: Affects salvages.
- Treasure hunter: Affects salvages and lockpicks. It should count also Treasures, Hidden treasures and reward chests like Dungeon chests or the HoH chest; but the benefits are just fine, and they are a lot.


So, there's only 3 titles left: Drunkard, Party Animal and Sweet Tooth.

What benefit could be for them?
I can see only one:
- Increased effect of the consumables they count.
*For consumables with a duration, 10% duration increase in rank 1 and 100% in rank 2 (double duration).
*For 'instant' consumables (like those that remove DP), 10% effect increase in rank 1 and 33% in rank 2. That way, in rank 1 something that gives 5% morale boost would give 5% anyways, and something that removes 15% DP would remove 16%, and in rank 2, something that gives 5% would give 6%, and something that removes 15% would remove 20%.

Those are the only ones left.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

..no...just no, its like a perma consumable set for people with those titles,its grand atm.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

/notsigned

Everything would be unbalanced and shit like that.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

No, for oblivious reasons.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

More grind-wise title benefits are stupid.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

It's ideas like this that make baby Jesus cry!

Won't somebody please think of baby Jesus!??!
PLEASE!??!?




The idea itself is just bad beyond words. What we need is the titles returning back to just being an additional option in customizing your character.
ANY in game effects because of them - just bad bad bad!

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

Yea why not. I thing incorrigible ale hound should make your screen permanently blurry, cause if you really spent that long drunk irl your eyes sure would be.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Maybe not your eyes. But a normal human would suffer cirrhosis.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no



DEAR GOD NO

i swear, if this gets implemented i will just quit. way oped for those who grind titles.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

/signed - all you need now is a way to get all of those benefits for unlocking the titles.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

sure, and add these in:

Drunkard: Constant blurry vision, 10% chance to miss.
Sweet Tooth: Lack of Teeth, enemies run from looking at you.
Party Animal: Keep the neighbors up, Takes 10 accepts to join a group.

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

W/

/notsigned. Anything that you do in this game that's doesn't benefit other people is useless to me. If your title ability benefited a group and not a player, I'd be more inclined to think it was cool.

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

wouldn't mind it, but then we'd see more lazy people crying about how they "have" to grind for titles. Don't matter to me, all those titles are already maxed, and none of it was a grind, at least for me.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

/notsigned ... just.... no

Fear Me!

Fear Me!

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Well.

Let's remember some things here:
1. The benefit from getting achievement titles maxed is getting them maxed. NOTHING ELSE. Protector, Guardian, Cartographer, etc. Should NOT and will NOT have any benefits. That's something that will NEVER change.

2. The benefit from getting plot-related grind titles maxed it's always linked to skills. In this case, the only change that could come is a title effect for Sunspear and separating the title effect from the bounties in kurzick. And maybe some skills more in lightbringer. But just that. Skills.

3. The benefits from getting pure grind titles increased vary:
- Lucky: Affects lockpicks. It could have another effect (the one that would correspond to unlucky)
- Unlucky: It's a side-effect title, so it's part of the lucky title and should have no benefits. Any extra benefit meant to this title should go to the lucky title instead.
- Wisdom: Affects salvages.
- Treasure hunter: Affects salvages and lockpicks. It should count also Treasures, Hidden treasures and reward chests like Dungeon chests or the HoH chest; but the benefits are just fine, and they are a lot.


So, there's only 3 titles left: Drunkard, Party Animal and Sweet Tooth.

What benefit could be for them?
I can see only one:
- Increased effect of the consumables they count.
*For consumables with a duration, 10% duration increase in rank 1 and 100% in rank 2 (double duration).
*For 'instant' consumables (like those that remove DP), 10% effect increase in rank 1 and 33% in rank 2. That way, in rank 1 something that gives 5% morale boost would give 5% anyways, and something that removes 15% DP would remove 16%, and in rank 2, something that gives 5% would give 6%, and something that removes 15% would remove 20%.

Those are the only ones left.
/notsigned. I can understand the OP's argument, but the above quoted condensed much of it, and it makes more sense for only pve skills to increase with race rank title grind. I also support the remaining titles having a purpose as listed in above quote.

The only grind required in GuildWars off the top of my head is Factions and Nightfall, where you must be a certain rank before being allowed to progress any further in the storyline. New pve skills based on race rank grind are always welcome; you are not required to grind them, it is an option.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Ah, and of course, EotN consumables and consumables that do not count for a title are out of the question.
Only those that increase those titles would count, like Drunk status or Sweets rushes.