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Krazi Bastid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

A/

12 Apr 2008 at 11:49 - 1

so anyways, i read donut tzar's guide and so i was all sooped up decided to give it a try. but im mega noob and get owned all the time. graspings break aggro and mess up my timing, aatxe wanna join in the fun, and most of all, that damn run to chaos keeps owning me. im more comfortable on my sin so i went with that instead. cant do smites with it and but can probably do chaos pits and pool like the ele way. only messed around with the aatxes, the chaos planes enemies, and first couple of groups in pools before i overused my skills and got owned by lack of energy. i still havent gotten used to runnin to chaos planes yet but heres a few of my tries.

can pull huge groups for this first part. once you load, start your echo sf chain, take quest, and pull everything minus a group of aatxe. either left or right. they dont like each other and break if try to pull too far. for the reaper chamber area, can pull everything. do this first part in like 5min or so.

die!

ectos hurray. if you noticed, i switched out radiation field for clumsiness. clumsiness has tiny bit more damage and also im a sucker filling my screen up with yellow numbers. versus the aatxes, i like radiation field more because of their regen but clumsiness is sweet against everything else. although, i havent made it far enough to test RF on the mindblades to see if they are even fleshy creatures and can get the disease.

for charged blacks, ether nightmare + cry of pain then run circles around em. shock/whirlwind hurts like a mofo.

thats all i have for now. if anyone can think of some other skills to use for dmg, please do share.

rank 7 luxon, max rank sunspear and asura
12+1+3 shadow arts
11 illusion
6 inspiration
rest in deadly arts

deadly paradox
arcane echo
shadowform
channeling
spirit of failure
cry of pain
clumsiness
wandering eye

edit - thats what ive been running and its been comfortable for me. energy is nice, everything besides aatxe die in about 40sec. can do the lab minus 4 aatxes, clear planes, clear pits and quest in about 1hr 5-10min. and if you get mega jerked on ectos do unwanted for a few more chances.

The.D0pefish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Germany

Matchup Close [yPrn]

Me/

12 Apr 2008 at 12:08 - 2

omg this is awesome
think i'm going to make a sin, because it can't be done with me/a

btw. i would take out clumsi for wandering eye

minaau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

TIG

Mo/

12 Apr 2008 at 12:34 - 3

shame i dont have an assassin
even if i did, how long would it take to max out asura and sunspear O.o

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

12 Apr 2008 at 12:58 - 4

This looks really good

Is it necessary to have a high allegiance rank for this to work?

ScopeSter

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

12 Apr 2008 at 13:02 - 5

MUST i have Maxed Asura and Sunspear? :S

Krazi Bastid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

A/

12 Apr 2008 at 13:16 - 6

on the ranks, im not sure if its that necessary. the wandering eye suggestion is pretty good. instead of using radiation field and ether nightmare, use wandering eye and clumsiness.

pretty much clumsiness = wandering eye. same dmg at my using 10 illusion and same cast/recharge times. clumsiness aoe hex everything that you have balled up, buncha numbers come up fill up my screen. wandering eye, numbers come all at once but its kinda not as pretty because of all the +1 from channeling taking up the whole screen. but i do like the wandering eye nearby range.

basically though, this build should work regardless of rank. the aatxe will be a a pain in the ass tho. they got some regen, so might take forever and a day to kill them if your cry of pain only does 50dmg and my cry at 100dmg takes like maybe ~10 uses to kill them including clumsiness and the degen. everything else though will definitely die and maybe like 30seconds longer than with high ranks.

minaau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

TIG

Mo/

12 Apr 2008 at 14:05 - 7

any suggestion for cry of pain replacements?

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

12 Apr 2008 at 14:09 - 8

cry of frustration maybe

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

12 Apr 2008 at 14:10 - 9

You should be able to do Smites with Radiation Field.

Tokolosi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

W/

12 Apr 2008 at 14:17 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

You should be able to do Smites with Radiation Field. Zealots Fire + RoF spam + No heal? = dead.

They don't cast it on you so SF doesn't do shit against them

edit: Cry of pain would help but only interrupt once every 12 seconds... with 3+ smites it would just overwhelm you and you would die in no time.

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

12 Apr 2008 at 14:30 - 11

Wow, just wow. This build seems to work awesome. Time to dust off the old sin and get to work in UW

robot of chaos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

belgium

12 Apr 2008 at 14:52 - 12

nope you wont be able to do smites since they got hex removal

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

12 Apr 2008 at 15:08 - 13

Well, i swapped radiation field for viper's defense (since my assa doesnt have radiation field) and it works fairly well in the snowmen lair

(Free of charge and mass aggro fun) Give it a shot guys.

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

12 Apr 2008 at 15:23 - 14

Was about to go try this when I noticed that your attributes are at 12/10/7, but you can get to 12/10/8

Scarn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

12 Apr 2008 at 16:03 - 15

Nice build and idea. UW is always fun.

monk of the godss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Melbourne, Australia

All Hail The P I N K [BeVr]

A/E

12 Apr 2008 at 21:55 - 16

So is shadow form unlimited with arcane echo and shadow form with that first skill? cause i dont see how 3 shadow forms will do it.

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

12 Apr 2008 at 22:22 - 17

You can keep it up constantly if you time it perfectly

By the time your second SF is about to end, AE and the real SF have recharged, and you can start it again

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

13 Apr 2008 at 00:04 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokolosi

Zealots Fire + RoF spam + No heal? = dead.

They don't cast it on you so SF doesn't do shit against them

edit: Cry of pain would help but only interrupt once every 12 seconds... with 3+ smites it would just overwhelm you and you would die in no time. They will only use RoF every 8 seconds since you aren't dealing any damage to end it early.

Zealot's Fire can be reduced to 17 or so damage with a +8,+10vFire Shield, +7 Warding mod, and a +10 vs elemental insignia. That gives you 105 armor. With 4 smites, that's 68 damage every 8 seconds. You should have 485 health with your setup, which means it will take them nearly a minute to kill you. By then they are probably dead.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

13 Apr 2008 at 03:06 - 19

i can't possibly get the timing right for the stupid shadow for to stay up permanently
any help?

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 06:39 - 20

To be honest, this build wont ruin the market. It takes perfect timing to keep SF up. There is no point in nerfing it.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 07:28 - 21

Well, perma shadow form is around for i dont know how many months... Since factions maybe

Even wiki mentions it. The other 5 skills are totally up to you.

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

13 Apr 2008 at 09:14 - 22

Resident, lies. Perma Shadow has been in-game since Nightfall came out, but people started using it after a month or two.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 10:39 - 23

Sorry, right, I thought Deadly paradox is a factions skill

Whatever, its still an old trick

monk of the godss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Melbourne, Australia

All Hail The P I N K [BeVr]

A/E

13 Apr 2008 at 11:38 - 24

So does cry of frustration actually work instead of cry of pain? Or something else perhaps?

My Lipgloss is Cool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

My Computer

Band Of The H A W K

P/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 11:45 - 25

Cry of Frustration might work, but the damage is so much lower that it will take much longer, and you have to hit a skill with it, so you can't just spam it.

The.D0pefish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Germany

Matchup Close [yPrn]

Me/

13 Apr 2008 at 12:01 - 26

i would take wandering eye instead of cry of pain.
Cry of Frustration needs to interrupt smth. to do dmg

Wandering eye will do more dmg and is on the same attribute line as clumsiness.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 12:14 - 27

I still stick with viper's defense. 21sec poison ftw (unless you meet the not fleshy ones...) Aatxes have 3pipe of regen, it just stops it. Btw, is charged blackness fleshy? Mindblades?

The.D0pefish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Germany

Matchup Close [yPrn]

Me/

13 Apr 2008 at 12:27 - 28

Charged blackness are from the same "race" as the graspings and mindblades aren't fleshy

So both shouldn't be affected by poison.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 12:29 - 29

Ok, bye bye Viper's defense then... Its useful against the aatxes though...

Keira Nightgale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Gulfstream Owners Club [GS]

Rt/R

13 Apr 2008 at 20:32 - 30

lucky drops, I did topk a lot back then and ecto drops always sucked (not talking about the golds wich rarely are anything worth), I'll stick to my ritu build able to kill smiters in less than 5 secs, drops sux but it's fun. Btw almost perma shadow form is obtainable by dervishes as well.

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

13 Apr 2008 at 23:25 - 31

hmmm who removed my replies?

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

13 Apr 2008 at 23:31 - 32

Once again,
does anyone have any tips or a way that i can make sure to get perfect timing on SF every time? right now i can hardly do it once.

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

14 Apr 2008 at 01:18 - 33

So do you guys think the perma-Shadow Form will get nerfed anytime soon? I'm considering making a Sin for this; however, I know people are complaining about how this is abused in HA, and this might be too easy of a farm like the old SoA was, perhaps even easier, and thus get nerfed.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

14 Apr 2008 at 01:23 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

hmmm who removed my replies? I did. Stop bitching about people releasing builds to the public. If you don't like it, fine. Don't start posting in threads yelling "OMG NOW ANET GUNA NERF DIS!!11". I'm getting annoyed with you doing it.

That goes for everyone. Don't post if all you're going to do is cry nerf.

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

N/

14 Apr 2008 at 02:14 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

Once again,
does anyone have any tips or a way that i can make sure to get perfect timing on SF every time? right now i can hardly do it once. Practice makes perfect.

well done on the guide - if i had a sin, this is what he'd be doing.

as far as the nerfbat goes, i highly doubt this is going to get hit. it's very ping-reliant, as well as being unable to hit smites and not being amazingly fast.

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

14 Apr 2008 at 04:42 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I did. Stop bitching about people releasing builds to the public. If you don't like it, fine. Don't start posting in threads yelling "OMG NOW ANET GUNA NERF DIS!!11". I'm getting annoyed with you doing it.

That goes for everyone. Don't post if all you're going to do is cry nerf. Damn, chill out. Was only stating my opinion, no need to get your panties all in a bunch. I don't know why you had to remove my replies, especially my 2nd and 3rd one. I was actually letting in what I been doing with a similar build, and what skill set I used. But in a way im glad you removed it. Thanks.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

14 Apr 2008 at 04:45 - 37

Sorry, but nobody wants to hear your opinion if it's non sense QQing over farming builds.

But enough derailing the thread.

Anyways, I like running this similar build:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReZdoGG

Shadow Arts: 16
Inspiration: 12
Deadly Arts: 3-4

Deadly Paradox
Shadowform
Arcane Echo
Radiation Field
Cry of Pain
Spirit of Failure
Mindbender
Auspicious Incantation

Mindbender and Auspicious can make all the difference in the build. Mindbender is a two in one skill, half casting of all spells, and a running skill to top it off. It helps alot when you need to use echo sf again. Auspicious is meant to be used for Arcane Echo to give you +27 energy so your energy will be mostly full after a
using DP, Echo, SF. Just before you need echo, and everything Arcane Echo is just about recharged, hit Mindbender, then Auspicious, DP, Arcane Echo, SF... and you should have plenty of energy. I also have max asuran and sunspear titles, so that helps alot with using Radiation and Cry of Pain only. Mindbender also helps give you acouple extra seconds of your timings, so room for error. I can keep up SF aslong as I need it for farmin, I usually never let SF wear off and mindbender definately helps that alot. The longest I kept SF up for was for over an hour straight, as I don't take any chances with low health in UW. It is also best to use it in Normal Mode in UW, since they will run away in HM. I also farm all the Bladed in the area, then run to Chaos Plains, even though running there ain't always successful but worth the try if you make it. Thanks for sharing, ReZdoGG. Very nice of you.

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

14 Apr 2008 at 07:57 - 38

Very nicely done

Wished I didn't remove my Sin

Started again.. lvl 13 ATM

Keira Nightgale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Gulfstream Owners Club [GS]

Rt/R

14 Apr 2008 at 12:18 - 39

Honestly I see no incoming nerf (touch deadly paradox again, archane echo?) if they wanted to nerf this they could have done it ages ago ( if u ever watched a perma shadow form sin in RA u could have come up with this build, so it's most likely anet already knew this build), they could lower drop rates (wich are kinda low already) which I doubt. I remember a guy ingame suggesting to nerf shadow form chains by making Shadow form add exhaustion.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

14 Apr 2008 at 15:22 - 40

Well, im somewhat an experienced uw farmer but this build is far from the effectiveness of a 55/SS or even a 600/smite in HM. In fact it's slow and you can f*ck it up pretty easily even with mindbender and auspicious. Sure it is fun but the old ways of farming is far more effective cause you can't farm smites with this build. (Smite hex, Smite condition rulz) Running to the chaos planes is as reliable with this build as it is with the E/Mo one.
The only thing why i like this build cause I can take revenge on the Aatxes