GW.exe +90% CPU

NyteMyre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/Mo

I seem to have this problem since the April 1st update. (first occurrence)

Lately, when I play the game, sometimes my controls freezes for a short period of time. At first I thought it was just normal lag, but when I clicked my mouse during a freeze once, i heard my PC beep. So i checked how much CPU I was using. I found out that GW.exe was using over 90% (355 MB RAM) of the CPU while it used to be around 35%~50%.

Anyone have an idea what the cause may be ?

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CPU: AMD Athlon 64 - 3500+ (2,20 GHz)
RAM: Dual channel 2x 512mb
VGA: ATi X850xt

bbh4r4l

bbh4r4l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

West Lafayette IN

Imperal Templar Knights

W/N

i Got 4mb ram and guild wars use the same amount on cpu
CPU: AMD Phenom 9500
Ram: 4X1Mb

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

Don't know why it would change but my machine was always running short on ram and I had a similiar setup using an x850xt but with a 3.2 pentium. When ram reaches a certain usage the cpu is forced to do all the extra work. I didn't notice any difference in load after the update but I got sick of the occasional slowdowns and threw in another gig of ram.. All the problems went away. Can't guarentee it will fix it but I'll take a good guess and say it would help you out enormously.

Tokolosi

Tokolosi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbh4r4l
i Got 4mb ram and guild wars use the same amount on cpu
CPU: AMD Phenom 9500
Ram: 4X1Mb
4 megabytes? thats a pretty sweet rig you got there

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

On my other 1.8 Ghz AMD Sempron it gets 100% flat out no matter what, on this AMD Athlon 64 6000+ X2 I get 20-35% average on windows XP, and 35-60% average on Vista.

bbh4r4l, If you are getting 100% with a Quad Core, then something is seriously wrong. That is just not right. I don't know why this happens to people though, beats me.

To the OP, I don't know either, I remember this happening on my Athlon 3200+ back in the day, one day it decided it was going to eat up 100% opposed to it used to using only half, and everyone just gave me the same answer ''Oh it just does that, that's how Guild Wars is'', personally that answer is a load of crap.

Hannes

Hannes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

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N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokolosi
4 megabytes? thats a pretty sweet rig you got there
HAHAHA! /envy

XD XD XD

NyteMyre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/Mo

its just strange that it used ti be lower

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

There's nothing wrong here really. GW is a game, and as such games will usually use 100% of how many cpu's they're coded for unless the framerate is capped. And since you only have a single core it makes sense the cpu usage is like it is.

Admael

Admael

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

Xen of Heroes

It's probably a one time occurrence. Can you confirm it's 90%+ every time you play? Even though, for your rig it's normal for Guild Wars to tax that much.

BLUESHIFT

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Legion of Losers [LOL]

I have a 3500+ and a x850xt except with 4x512mb of RAM. Since around this update I have noticed a drop in frame rate and a increase of CPU usage. (It would always use as much processing power it could until the whole system was at 100%, but now it doesn't allow other programs any breathing room) Before I could use iTunes without any hiccups. Now iTunes will stutter unless I put it at a higher priority then GW. (I assumed this was because I added a webcam and the driver eats 1-4% CPU at all times if it is plugged in) Maybe the OP was onto something... or maybe we are all imagining things...

katherinetheblood

katherinetheblood

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Highland Tsunami [HT]

N/Mo

If I could make a wild guess at what is going on, it would be this. GW is constantly downloading stuff for new content (either streaming constantly or in "big" updates that require an game restart) and it is slowly adding more strain to your (Im guessing not up to date) system. Therefore, when you add more memory and such, it "fixes the problem". My dad is constantly trying to update my computer and I think I've switched computers once, maybe twice within the time I've got the game so I notice nothing of the sort. That and Im a good person when it comes to cleaning out my monster of a machine (say goodbye 3 gigs of hellgate wasted space! *zap*). So this is why Im guessing you need to find yourself some memory. ^^"

Musei Karasu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Mo/

bbh4r4l, if you're maxing out on a quad core that's an issue. GW isn't concurrent so you shouldn't be using anymore than about 10% of the three other cores it's not using.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

No, he should be using less. Your file system may be bloated. Try a fresh install of XP Pro and get SP3 for it.

Here is mine
[image is 1920x1200, so you have to click it)

(currently running an Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 OC @ 3.2GHz)

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

If you have a singlecore cpu, windows gives nearly 100% of the cpu to GW when you are playing fullscreen.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No, he should be using less. Your file system may be bloated. Try a fresh install of XP Pro and get SP3 for it.

Here is mine
[image is 1920x1200, so you have to click it)

(currently running an Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 OC @ 3.2GHz)
Yes but you have Guild Wars minimized right? on my 3.0Ghz X2 athlon It goes to 50% straight away upon minimizing on XP Pro SP2, and on Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1 it goes to 60% straight away when minimized, so that looks normal.

Would like to see it up on the screen in Window mode to get a better idea.

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Yes but you have Guild Wars minimized right? on my 3.0Ghz X2 athlon It goes to 50% straight away upon minimizing on XP Pro SP2, and on Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1 it goes to 60% straight away when minimized, so that looks normal.

Would like to see it up on the screen in Window mode to get a better idea.
Here it is on my OC'd x2 4000+ @ 2.825 ghz.



Hovers around what is equal to 75%-85% of a single core in a window. Uses the full equivalent of a single core in full screen according to my g15 lcd, but i can't ScreenShot that.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Yeah that's what it should look like.

So the question is: Why are people with equal/better processors getting such high usage? It's quite odd really..

I mean with Skype, Msn, Yahoo, Weatherbug, Winamp, Firefox, and Guild Wars open I get 30-60% depending.

On Windows XP Professional SP2 with two Guild Wars clients opened - and both minimized (and the tasks I mentioned above running), I get 100%. Then 80% with one opened and the other minimized, so yeah.

PS: On an unrelated note, what town are you in? I can't even recognize that oddly enough, even after nearly 3 years of play.

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
PS: On an unrelated note, what town are you in? I can't even recognize that oddly enough, even after nearly 3 years of play.
That would be Eotn's Tarnished Haven.

Admael

Admael

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

Xen of Heroes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Yes but you have Guild Wars minimized right? on my 3.0Ghz X2 athlon It goes to 50% straight away upon minimizing on XP Pro SP2, and on Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1 it goes to 60% straight away when minimized, so that looks normal.

Would like to see it up on the screen in Window mode to get a better idea.
It matters little if it's windowed or fullscreen, as soon as you switch the taskmanager as the active window, Guild Wars looses priority.

I've highlighted the screenshot for concept. (graph shows higher load for when Guild Wars was active)

Miss Eisei

Miss Eisei

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Mo/

its not about fullscreen or window
its all about minimized or not she was pointing out
when minimizing it u render no actuall frames to the gfxcard, so it doesnt get bottlenecked, and the fps raises up, and so does the cpuload

Anyway, about the topic
i have noticed lately that GW has become sluggish as well as loading towns slower , and i know its nothing wrong with my drivers etc
something has been changed in how the game handles everything

RandomRanger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

While I have no idea of the cause, I have been having the same issues as the OP. I tried many things but in the end the only thing that worked was using a cpu limiter.

http://deztec.jp/x/05/faireal/BES-index.html

I'm sure there are probably others to use much better then that, but it works fine for me. I have no problems now after I tell it to limit GW back 20%.

Hopefully this helps at least temporarily.

PS. No idea if it works on vista.

fusa

fusa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

If you heard your computer beep, then you might be having hardware issues. If you have the motherboard manual check to see if theres a section listing what different sequences of beeps mean. Check if all vents in your computer are free from dust etc, and fans are moving while on and free of dust. Try doing a windows system roll back to before the problems start. You can also try disabling programs that startup with windows in MSConfig, then reinable one at a time to determien which is causing the problem (if any are).

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Eisei
its not about fullscreen or window
its all about minimized or not she was pointing out
when minimizing it u render no actuall frames to the gfxcard, so it doesnt get bottlenecked, and the fps raises up, and so does the cpuload

Anyway, about the topic
i have noticed lately that GW has become sluggish as well as loading towns slower , and i know its nothing wrong with my drivers etc
something has been changed in how the game handles everything
I wouldn't doubt that something was changed.

Because sometime last year, I was able to run two clients on my crappy old computer with 1 gig of ram, 6600LE, athlon 3200+ with 30 FPS on both games.

Then after an update, I couldn't do it anymore, I had so much lag and the game was choppy and all kinds of things, reinstalling/downloading files didn't help, it was simply the game, my computer couldn't handle it anymore (And no it wasn't the DirectX update) it was just something A-Net did.

I just don't think in any case that it would be the problem for 100% load, because it happened to me erratically once too, and from what I remember that wasn't related to an update.

Pasha the Mighty

Pasha the Mighty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

South Park, Colorado

OtDL

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
I wouldn't doubt that something was changed.

Because sometime last year, I was able to run two clients on my crappy old computer with 1 gig of ram, 6600LE, athlon 3200+ with 30 FPS on both games.

Then after an update, I couldn't do it anymore, I had so much lag and the game was choppy and all kinds of things, reinstalling/downloading files didn't help, it was simply the game, my computer couldn't handle it anymore (And no it wasn't the DirectX update) it was just something A-Net did.

I just don't think in any case that it would be the problem for 100% load, because it happened to me erratically once too, and from what I remember that wasn't related to an update.
Yep me too, I didn't think I need a new graphic's card, because my 7300le was doing fine at 40 fps. Then I stopped playing for 4 months , I think that was a year ago. I started again during the summer holidays, and since then I've had about 20 fps.

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Admael
It matters little if it's windowed or fullscreen, as soon as you switch the taskmanager as the active window, Guild Wars looses priority.

I've highlighted the screenshot for concept. (graph shows higher load for when Guild Wars was active)
In the case of the window. As long as it's up on the screen and not hidden it uses the same amount of cpu as before. Only when it's minimized or behind another app, like a maximized browser, does it go up to 50

Here's another shot, with gw in focus to please the court..

again hovering around 37-44%




Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasha the Mighty
Yep me too, I didn't think I need a new graphic's card, because my 7300le was doing fine at 40 fps. Then I stopped playing for 4 months , I think that was a year ago. I started again during the summer holidays, and since then I've had about 20 fps.
Perhaps they changed some shaders or some other part of the renderer and it became a bit more complex and thus harder to render on a low end card without an fps hit. That's about all i can think of if you didn't change anything on your end.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Well... umm.. just FYI, this is mine windowed (resolution even in this form is still at least 1400x900. That is with firefox open and all underlying tasks, and task manager and WMP playing.

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

my CPU also uses 100% to guild wars, i got a stupid single core 3.0GHz cpu.

doesn't matter for me as i run on everything high AA 4X and still get around 80fps.

Admael

Admael

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

Xen of Heroes

It's expected to be at 90-100% if you run single core.

NyteMyre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/Mo

Lately i've played without many hickups, but just now i had a 1on1 with a warrior for the 10th win in RA, and suddenly it came back big time.
I could move, but my mouse wouldn't move and skills that i activate just kept blinking, but they didn't move. Looks like my system just hates me.

I noticed though, that in Taskmanager, GW.exe has a LOW priority. Even if i set it to Normal or High, the second i move back ingame it returns to LOW.
-edit- Never mind, seems to be normal.


Anyway, it could be a hardware thing, but i also play CoD4 and BF2, 2 games which are far more demanding when it comes to system requirements.
But GW (and Men of Honor too, installed that game yesterday and seem to have the same "control freeze" problem) is the only game where i encounter these kind of freezes

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Check your GPU's temperature when it freezes if you can, otherwise just check your GPU's temperature.

This has nothing to do with your CPU and you seem to have enough RAM assuming it's running properly.