OMFG Is There Anything I Can Do About This? (I Got Scammed)

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

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So I was selling a fellblade in Kamadan & this guy comes over to me & offers me the amount I was looking for, but when I clicked accept it said something along the lines of "the trade was cancelled". He then said "maybe it's the trade bug or something". So I suggested that we try & trade outside Kamadan in an explorable area.

We got outside and still the same problem occured. He then dropped an Elite Paragon Tome & trade with me thinking maybe his inventory was full or something, yet the same thing happened and he said "it's not my inventory, hmm". Thinking nothing of it I said to him "I can drop the fellblade, and you drop the cash?". So he agrees & I drop the fellblade thinking "he can't scam me because he's all the way over there, if he decides to run & grab it I'll just pick it back up again".

The second I dropped the fellblade, he just teleports to me & picks up the Fellblade then goes "hahahaha never drop anything outside noob" and zones. Then just puts me on his ignore list.

Fair enough, it was only 35k, but it's still annoying as hell. I just wanted to put my fist through the wall as soon as he did it, because I knew for certain he wasn't gonna give it back, and I know he's just gonna get away with it completely.

Here's a screenshot showing part of the conversation that took place, although I didn't actually get a screenshot of him teleporting to me because it was so unexpected.


EDIT: Screenshot removed.


Is there ANYTHING I can do about this at all? I don't understand how people can do this to others & not think that anything will come back to bite them in the future. I believe in Karma 100% and I could NEVER do this to anybody, because I'd feel that something like this would happen to me in the future. Even if you don't believe in Karma, I don't get how people can just do this so easily without even giving a crap about how the other person is gonna feel about it.

I doubt anything can be done and another little sh*t is gonna get away with this once again.

Floodland

Floodland

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Syphon Squadron [SS]

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Oh, hell, you fell for the "trade bug" trick. Ouch. I'm not really sure that there's much you can do. You could make a report, but I'm not entirely certain how useful that'd be, especially since, as you say, you've not got a screenie of him teleporting to you.

agallor6

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/R

first off its a known rule by most everyone to never ever drop anything outside when someone looking to buy asks you no matter what he is saying. It usually ends up being someone looking to scam you, and this guy actually found someone that would agree to it. Second I do not really thing there is anything you can do unless you report it with all the screen shots,but than again you still dropped the item outside making it free to anyone I personally think.

legendary4321

legendary4321

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

nomads isle

I Savant I[Crew]4life

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some1 tryed that on me but ig ot him,i made sure of it because i wached him. anyways,my idem was worth over 100k and i made sure of it that i wasent getting scamed,sorry about your loss man. dont think there is anything u can do about it

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

There is nothing we could do for you. I wouldn't even bother sending a report in since you don't have the actual proof he teleported.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floodland
Oh, hell, you fell for the "trade bug" trick. Ouch. I'm not really sure that there's much you can do. You could make a report, but I'm not entirely certain how useful that'd be, especially since, as you say, you've not got a screenie of him teleporting to you.
shadow-step ftw..just shadow charge or whatnot to target ally and yippee noob scams !!!

Floodland

Floodland

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Syphon Squadron [SS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
shadow-step ftw..just shadow charge or whatnot to target ally and yippee noob scams !!!
Aye, the sad truth. Still, if a drop-trade's done, it's almost certainly going to happen.

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

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What complete bullsh*t. I can't believe this. Is there even such thing as a "trade bug"? I take it the answer is no.

Floodland

Floodland

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Syphon Squadron [SS]

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You would be correct.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Nothing you can do except remove the names from the pic and learn from your mistake. There's only 5 reasons a trade won't go through:

1. Not enough room in your inventory
2. Not enough room in other party's invnetory
3. You've got too much gold on you.
4. The other party's got too much gold
5. Someone clicks on the "cancel" button.

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

E/

OK

Thanks.

rose of zg

rose of zg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

croatia

[CM]

Mo/

rofl ....dont trust them

Someone clicks on the "cancel" button.

lol

nbajammer

nbajammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Blade And Rose [BaR]

Mo/

And you even asked if it was okay to drop the item!

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

No, you can't. It's your fault.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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You gave him so many opportunities to scam you. I will be amazed if he didn't.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

It's a common scam, been talked about so many times on guru... never drop an item to trade it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nbajammer
And you even asked if it was okay to drop the item!
Yeah, like they'd say "No don't drop it, I'm gonna scam you!", lol.

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

E/

Why does this type of thread always turn into a flame fest against the OP? I asked if there was anything I could do about it, I didn't expect people to be all like "rofl n00b, you g0t pwntz0r'd, its j00r fault haha lawlz". I know it's my fault, I never said it wasn't. Who's fault would it be? it wouldn't be your fault would it, it's obviously mine.

We were like 20 paces apart, I didn't expect him to teleport to me, especially considering he was a Necro. How many people actually look at the person's 2nd profession that they're trading with? It's just not relevant to the trade, so it's ignored by most.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Vanchatron X
What complete bullsh*t. I can't believe this. Is there even such thing as a "trade bug"? I take it the answer is no.
I'm sure there probably can be a "trade bug" under some obscure circumstances, but dropping the item ain't gonna cure it.

Two rules - never anger a Norn and never drop anything valuable.

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Vanchatron X
Why does this type of thread always turn into a flame fest against the OP? I asked if there was anything I could do about it, I didn't expect people to be all like "rofl n00b, you g0t pwntz0r'd, its j00r fault haha lawlz". I know it's my fault, I never said it wasn't. Who's fault would it be? it wouldn't be your fault would it, it's obviously mine.

We were like 20 paces apart, I didn't expect him to teleport to me, especially considering he was a Necro. How many people actually look at the person's 2nd profession that they're trading with? It's just not relevant to the trade, so it's ignored by most.
I'm going to kindly ask you to stfu We are trying to help you with your problem and your telling us that we are turning this into a flame fest...

GG Troll

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

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UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker
I'm sure there probably can be a "trade bug" under some obscure circumstances, but dropping the item ain't gonna cure it.
No it wouldn't cure the trade bug, but it'd allow people to trade things... One person drops the cash, the other drops the item. Then on the count of 3 they move to the other person's cash/item & there you go, trade done. Although there's not a lot fo trustworthy people left in the world.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by X Vanchatron X
The second I dropped the fellblade, he just teleports to me & picks up the Fellblade then goes "hahahaha never drop anything outside noob" and zones. Then just puts me on his ignore list.

Follow his advice from now on

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blizzard.
I'm going to kindly ask you to stfu We are trying to help you with your problem and your telling us that we are turning this into a flame fest...

GG Troll
And I'm going to "kindly" ask you to keep your nose out of business that doesn't concern you "troll". How the hell am I a troll? Also, I wasn't directing it at you at all, you helped me, GG, whatever. I was directing it at the people that were clearly taking the piss for what happened.

I suggest YOU stfu. Wtf is wrong with you? Why get involved when you clearly knew I wasn't talking about you and tell me to STFU?

And I don't know about you, but taking the piss out of the situation is hardly "trying to help" is it? I suggest you pick up a dictionary and learn what the word "help" means.

Oh and: Troll - "One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum". Hmm, who does this point to most, me or you?

Grow up.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

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No sympathy at all, it's your own stupid fault!

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
No sympathy at all, it's your own stupid fault!
Gz, way to jump on the bandwagon there son. Everyone else gives me shit so you wanna be a part of it, wow. As I said, gz.

I said it was my fault anyway, I admitted that, and when did I ask for sympathy at all? I asked if there was anything I could do about it fool. Learn to read, kthxbai.

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

You can try sending in a ticket, but I doubt Anet/NCSoft will do anything about it.

Pretty sucky way to lose a Fellblade

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Vanchatron X
No it wouldn't cure the trade bug, but it'd allow people to trade things... One person drops the cash, the other drops the item. Then on the count of 3 they move to the other person's cash/item & there you go, trade done. Although there's not a lot fo trustworthy people left in the world.
Yes, you could do that - and I`ve done that with Guildies or people I trust.

Look on the bright side:

1. - It`s only game gold - play money - you lost nothing really (except maybe, your innocence.)

2. - It`s a learning experience. Now your sense of naive trust will be tempered with a bit of reality.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Well at least he gave you some good advice

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

You dropped something out side. NEVER DO THAT. Tbh you kind of deserved it.
Also don't always assume these people are scammers. Was selling a Tormented Sword and the person kept canceling. Was about ready to call them a scammer, then I relized I had gold on me.

X Vanchatron X

X Vanchatron X

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Well at least he gave you some good advice
Meh, cost me 35k though haha

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan
You dropped something out side. NEVER DO THAT. Tbh you kind of deserved it.
Also don't always assume these people are scammers. Was selling a Tormented Sword and the person kept canceling. Was about ready to call them a scammer, then I relized I had gold on me.
Yep I know

Oh well, like others have said, I'll learn from my mistakes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatile
You can try sending in a ticket, but I doubt Anet/NCSoft will do anything about it.

Pretty sucky way to lose a Fellblade
Thank you, this was the kind of response I was looking for.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker
Yes, you could do that - and I`ve done that with Guildies or people I trust.

Look on the bright side:

1. - It`s only game gold - play money - you lost nothing really (except maybe, your innocence.)

2. - It`s a learning experience. Now your sense of naive trust will be tempered with a bit of reality.
Also, thank YOU. I don't come on here looking to argue with people, I'd rather just enjoy myself, but when people make fun of me for the situation it's uncalled for, there's no need for it. I already lost the fellblade, and I was just checking to see whether there was anything I could do about it or not. Now I realise there isn't, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

I don't understand why people have to come into the thread to start a problem for no reason & then complain when I respond to their post. If you don't like my response to your posts, then don't post a negative comment in the first place. I'm not just gonna sit back & take it. (Not directed at you by the way).

Anyway, I've gotta go out now & I'm not gonna check back on this thread at all, so I'm not rising to the posts anymore. I've had my say, and that's it. I'm not turning this thread into a flame fest anymore.

Thanks to all the people that were actually nice about the situation

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

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If it makes you feel better, I had the same thing happen to me once. I noticed the other character was a Warrior, so I thought, "why not?" Idiot me, I didn't notice Assassin as his secondary prof. So anyways, I learned my lesson the hard way. :s

(about the only thing you can do is if you ever see that person in trade chat you can proclaim loud and long to everyone else that he/she is a scammer and not to trade with them..... at least it will make you feel a little better.)

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elder III
If it makes you feel better, I had the same thing happen to me once. I noticed the other character was a Warrior, so I thought, "why not?" Idiot me, I didn't notice Assassin as his secondary prof. So anyways, I learned my lesson the hard way. :s
Also, with the release of GWEN there's an Ebon Vanguard skill that acts as a teleport (I believe, it's been mentioned, I'll find it).

So yeah, no going outside with strangers. Their candy is the bad type.
>.>
<.<

Found it: Ebon Escape.

dicecube

dicecube

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

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i'm sorry to hear that.. but this was absolutely funny reading . I suspected this scam would take place after u went to an explorable, and was shocked it still works.

mocax

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

fellblades are worth 35k?!
I always salvaged them for the mods, if they survive the salvaging, I dumped it at the merchant....

Boogey Mancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Raven Alliance

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mocax
fellblades are worth 35k?!
I always salvaged them for the mods, if they survive the salvaging, I dumped it at the merchant....
same here lol

Lady S Shiva

Lady S Shiva

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

LOD???

W/Mo

always trade in town and in town only, maybe he got full inventory, maybe u got full in cash, but what any good is “let’s trade outside” gonna do. It’s ok to go outside and show the skin, but deal back in town once he saw the item.
If some1 ask u “I never seen the skin, can I try it with my armor see how it goes? U can hold my FOW armor, and I will buy it if I like it” or some like that. When that happens, fxxk him and kick him, don’t give a damn about FOW armor cause u cannot wear it, u cannot salvage ecto out of it, and the armor itself sucks.
Always check before u hit accept, especially when other person changed stuff in trade window. The other day a person was buying black dye in kamadan for 7k, I put up black dye and he put up 7k gold, then he says he’s inventory was full and will give me few hide for free, after he changed, there was few hide and 1k gold, and he cancel the trade and left after I said “ thought so, u little piece of shit”

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Report them to support, but nothing can be done about your lost money or items. Be more careful next time

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