Guild Wars 2 - One vs One viable, WoW style Duel challenges in town?

Solange

Solange

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

right now One vs One in guild wars I don't believe is really possible, the builds from what I've read (And i'm no expert) seem to be catered entirely for team builds

Builds in World of Warcraft and other games i've played seem to allow any class to play on their own in PVE but also in PVP

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Hm... usually is not a good idea to suggest anything "WoW-Style"

I'd hate to see GW turned into a non-fee WoW.

The sole idea is... not very attractive.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

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nah no thx. GW = 8 skills on your bar, where you have to be "balanced". WoW = infinite skills that allows you to be mindless and just click whatever you feel like clicking. i would prefer if GW stayed GW and WoW stayed WoW.



~LeNa~

HawkofStorms

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solange
right now One vs One in guild wars I don't believe is really possible, the builds from what I've read (And i'm no expert) seem to be catered entirely for team builds
1v1s in Guild halls ARE possible. I've highlighted your problem though. You just get builds from wiki/forums. There are hundreds of builds viable in 1v1 fights, most of them some sort of tanker build or counter build (backfire + elemental resistance against an ele, etc). They just aren't popularized on fan sites because they are mostly... lame.

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

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Yes, you can just use a scrimmage in your guild hall for a 1v1 (no faction etc. is gained though)

And I don't know why you said "WoW-style" the MMO Risk Your Life did this far before WoW ever came out.

Solange

Solange

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
1v1s in Guild halls ARE possible. I've highlighted your problem though. You just get builds from wiki/forums. There are hundreds of builds viable in 1v1 fights, most of them some sort of tanker build or counter build (backfire + elemental resistance against an ele, etc). They just aren't popularized on fan sites because they are mostly... lame.
Its paper rock scissors though

Unless you both tell each other builds

theres skill involved sure but the build that counters the other one better wins instead of how to use your class

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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the reason they cater to team based battles is because 1v1 is for noobs with lame farming builds who want to settle arguments with people who say that their build sucks. All this for their e-peen.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Solange

Solange

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
the reason they cater to team based battles is because 1v1 is for noobs with lame farming builds who want to settle arguments with people who say that their build sucks. All this for their e-peen.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
exactly the farming builds bite thats why there's no real reason for the current 1 vs 1 in guild wars

its just who has the best 55 farming build

i hope in guild wars 2 its not even possible

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
nah no thx. GW = 8 skills on your bar, where you have to be "balanced". WoW = infinite skills that allows you to be mindless and just click whatever you feel like clicking. i would prefer if GW stayed GW and WoW stayed WoW.



~LeNa~
If you played WoW, you would know that what you said is not true. And since you havent played WoW, its not like your oppinion on anything that has to do with WoW should matter, so dont waste your time writing.



Im pretty sure that what the OP ment is a 'quickie' duel. Sure you can scrimmage in your GH, but this takes time to set up, whereas the OP suggests you just make a few clicks and youre off to a fight, no build tweaking, no preparation whatsoever, quick, simple, and fun. I belive THAT is what "WoW style" meant.

/signed by me for GW2

Solas

Solas

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

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/signed
dueling adds somthing to the game, its a small thing but it brings you into the game more imo, from what i've played in wow.
its a nice feature until you come up againsta 12 year old "OMG n00b you cheated,I r0x i should win,n00b!" (rare occurance)
/signed

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Why not just play WoW?
It's not like much is different, it's still rock-paper-scissors, except WoW is cash vs less cash.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

gw = team game

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Why not just play WoW?
It's not like much is different, it's still rock-paper-scissors, except WoW is cash vs less cash.
Nah monthly fee

no monthly fee you could add all this for free and it would rule

Red Sand

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Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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/notsigned.

Somehow the thought of some stupid assassin jerkoff, with an "Ultimate First Strike PWND" build, challenging every person in town until someone accepts, annoys me.

Solange

Solange

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
gw = team game
part 1

but part 2 is a mystery

enxa

enxa

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
/notsigned.

Somehow the thought of some stupid assassin jerkoff, with an "Ultimate First Strike PWND" build, challenging every person in town until someone accepts, annoys me.
Just let him be? Dont accept and it ends as far as you are concerned. He is not harming anyone, and if its whats fun for him, why blame him? Besides its all part of interacting with people, which you need to accept as a posibility when playing an online game.
IMO, sometimes the best action is random action.

sagilltwins

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This is Guild Wars not the World of Warcraft....

Solange

Solange

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sagilltwins
This is Guild Wars not the World of Warcraft....
take whats missin from WoW and add it to guild wars to make the ultimate game with no monthly fee

steal some of their player base

Red Sand

Red Sand

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Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
Just let him be? Dont accept and it ends as far as you are concerned. He is not harming anyone, and if its whats fun for him, why blame him? Besides its all part of interacting with people, which you need to accept as a posibility when playing an online game.
So if it's fun for him to offer duels to everyone in the zone, it's okay, but if I don't like it when get an invite, I have to ignore it? I get annoyed when I take my level 20 warrior to Ascalon to give a item to a friend and get 3 invites to groups from level 6's before I find my friend.

Is it harassment if I have to ignore duels from every 15 (or 50) year old assassin every time I zone into LA?

A better idea would be a RA town that you can go into, hit join battle and get paired up randomly for a heroless 1v1 fight. That is something I could agree with.

Quote:
IMO, sometimes the best action is random action.
IMO, the best action is planned action, and if time does not permit, decisive action, but rarely in my experience is the best action random...

... except in dodgeball.

enxa

enxa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
So if it's fun for him to offer duels to everyone in the zone, it's okay, but if I don't like it when get an invite, I have to ignore it? I get annoyed when I take my level 20 warrior to Ascalon to give a item to a friend and get 3 invites to groups from level 6's before I find my friend.
Umm, yes, decline, ignore? Whats the problem ? No one is forcing you to respond to anything.
You play an online game with other humans. If you DONT want contact with strangers, go play a single player game. Simple as that.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
If you played WoW, you would know that what you said is not true. And since you havent played WoW, its not like your oppinion on anything that has to do with WoW should matter, so dont waste your time writing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
Umm, yes, decline, ignore? Whats the problem ? No one is forcing you to respond to anything.
You play an online game with other humans. If you DONT want contact with strangers, go play a single player game. Simple as that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by exna
Just let him be? Dont accept and it ends as far as you are concerned. He is not harming anyone, and if its whats fun for him, why blame him? Besides its all part of interacting with people, which you need to accept as a posibility when playing an online game.
IMO, sometimes the best action is random action.
you like to troll a lot and antagonize, it seems.


i've played WoW for like 3 days (before i realized it was he most dumbfounded and annoying game i've ever played and i would not go back to it even if i was offered 1000k) and you get a shit load of skills on your bar. it's useless and completely retarded. as some-1 else in this thread said, if you want WoW, go play WoW. if you want GW, then play GW. mixing the 2 would NOT created the "ultimate game". the moment that GW is mixed with up-to-date WoW features is the day GW loses 50% (if not higher) of it's player base. that's just fact and just how it is.



~LeNa~

Red Sand

Red Sand

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Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
Umm, yes, decline, ignore? Whats the problem ? No one is forcing you to respond to anything.
You play an online game with other humans. If you DONT want contact with strangers, go play a single player game. Simple as that.
But I do want contact with other players, that's why I am in a guild, use Ventrilo, PvE and PvP, the whole bit. If I wanted to play a video game alone, I'd play Playstation. What I don't want to do is be annoyed or harassed by strangers, and I am forced to be antisocial enough (by turning off local and trade channels and refusing invites from every TDH).

I think it's rude to invite a person to your group that is not looking for group, don't you? I think it would be rude to challenge someone to a duel that is not looking for a duel, don't you?

Simply put, you have confirmed my belief that most people that play MMOs think it's okay to do what is fun for them, and if that's annoy other people, screw them.

You probably wouldn't walk up to me in real life and challenge me to a duel, that would be stupid. If you did, I guess I could be the bigger man and just ignore you. I should just ignore you on the boards, cause you're just here for my amusement anyway. GW just a game, so I'll get over it.

BTW, I solved the problem for all of us already, if people want single player duels, make a single player challenge arena, or put a duel tab on the party request window.

That way the rest of us will only have to put up with personal duels when we are looking for one.

demo113

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solange
right now One vs One in guild wars I don't believe is really possible, the builds from what I've read (And i'm no expert) seem to be catered entirely for team builds

Builds in World of Warcraft and other games i've played seem to allow any class to play on their own in PVE but also in PVP
Have you ever played WoW and seen how extremely unbalanced 1v1 is in it? It isn't any different in GW.

Tarun

Tarun

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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/signed - this was so much fun in WoW

Sir Pandra Pierva

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/notsigned just fight in your guildhall.

thogh i wouldn't mind a 1v1 arena.

~ Dan ~

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1v1? Bragging rights?

Yes please.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
the moment that GW is mixed with up-to-date WoW features is the day GW loses 50% (if not higher) of it's player base. that's just fact and just how it is.
I'd love to know where that fact came from.

MagmaRed

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First of all, what is your suggestion?

Second of all, since you said Guild Wars 2, let me direct you to the sticky.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10214062

+1 before move/lock

You can't see me

You can't see me

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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I just don't see how this is worth the time to code into Guild Wars 2. For that matter, I see no constructive use for it. The entire purpose would be to prove that you can beat someone else. We honestly need more of that by the truckload. Haul it in. No thanks.

/Not Signed.

enxa

enxa

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

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Quote:
I think it's rude to invite a person to your group that is not looking for group, don't you? I think it would be rude to challenge someone to a duel that is not looking for a duel, don't you?
You might considder it rude, but there is nothing you can do, but accept or decline.
There are rude people all over the world. All you can do is ignore them.



Quote:
you like to troll a lot and antagonize, it seems.


i've played WoW for like 3 days (before i realized it was he most dumbfounded and annoying game i've ever played and i would not go back to it even if i was offered 1000k) and you get a shit load of skills on your bar. it's useless and completely retarded. as some-1 else in this thread said, if you want WoW, go play WoW. if you want GW, then play GW. mixing the 2 would NOT created the "ultimate game". the moment that GW is mixed with up-to-date WoW features is the day GW loses 50% (if not higher) of it's player base. that's just fact and just how it is.
Judge a game based on 'like 3 days' of playing?

You just made this alot easier for me. Youve disproven your own point. Thanks.

warcrap

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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i dont want gw2 to be completely like WoW but i wouldt mind if they put 1v1 dueling anywhere and mounts and stuff.

bhavv

bhavv

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Join Date: Sep 2006

What is wrong if they put in 1v1 duels?

People that enjoy doing them can do it, people that dont can opt out. Most people in WoW 1v1 for fun, not for e peen, like when I went around on my lvl 10 paladin challenging lvl 70 players for the luls.

WoW has a fantastic player interaction, and the gameplay design actually makes it fun to play with and challenge others. In GW however, playing with others is usually a truck load of bull poo. Each game has it plus points, I fail to see how implementing 1v1 duels into GW2 could harm the game in anyway at all. If you dont like it, you dont have to do it.

wilderness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler
And I don't know why you said "WoW-style" the MMO Risk Your Life did this far before WoW ever came out.
Possibly because WoW is the most popular online game of all time making it an easy/common point of reference? Probably something like that...

I don't see why a fun feature contained in one game can't be transfered to another without such pointless competition.

I Report U

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

isnt RA rock paper scissor? and thats still a popular format.
there should be a 1vs1 random arena just to mess around like u do in RA>
maybe something like warrior duels,polymock etc....
why not? if u dont like it dont enter and keep playin pve or team pvp.
and its nothing to do with wow....guildwars allready has the scrimmage option....but its cumbersome and a pain in the ass.

and btw there are a few guilds that specialize in scrimmages.....and its not exactly rock paper scissor.....u gotta bring a versatile build if u want to win more games than u lose (it should be about ratio- wc3 ladder style)

in my previous alliance they organized a 1vs1 torunament and it was great fun.


ps: yeh red sand it should an outpost.

HawkofStorms

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Quote:
Originally Posted by I Report U
isnt RA rock paper scissor? and thats still a popular format.
Not really. A bad player can be given a good bar to run as a monk and still lose every game. If there was some amount of variablity and skill involved that occasionally allowed rock to beat paper, then that would be a good metaphor. Since there isn't....

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

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Well, I don't really see how this would fit into the GWs 8-skills-skibbar idea. I would /sign if:
- It was only possible in some parts (not everywhere).
- It was possible to disable it. In some other game I played (No, not WoW) you would get invites to 1vs1 matches every few seconds in towns. It got very annoying very fast.
- Had no effect on titles at all.

bhavv

bhavv

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I think we all forgot GW2's already announced world PVP feature that anet have said will be in the game. It will be able to be toggled on and off if you choose. If you turn it on you will be able to attack whoever you like in PVE, and likewise be attacked yourself, but if you turn it off, you cant attack others or be attacked.

That has already been confirmed and sounds like a very nice feature.

Dont forget that GW2 is going to be a completely different PVE game to GW1 with seperate PVP skills for balance.