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Originally Posted by Zesbeer
since when did players want more grind?! i never have, guild wars from the start was supost to be about skill and not grind.
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Why Have We Been Forsaken!
Arduin
MisterB
Actually, quite a few(PvE) people want more grind in GW. They show up in the level cap threads, and want the level raised to whatever. If that(grinding XP for a higher level) is not grind, I don't know what is. Unfortunately, ANet has agreed. We now have titles, and GW2 will have a much higher cap than 20.
On topic, I don't see any evidence that ANet has abandoned GW1, and quite alot of evidence to the contrary. I still see regular updates, events, bug fixes, etc.
On topic, I don't see any evidence that ANet has abandoned GW1, and quite alot of evidence to the contrary. I still see regular updates, events, bug fixes, etc.
distilledwill
Great game, no monthly fee. stop the QQ.
Dark Kal
Why make major improvements to something that's going to be obsolete in a few years?
Malice Black
It would have been a better game if it had a monthly fee.
rose of zg
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Originally Posted by Lord Darksoul
The problem is is that we have no monthly fees, which means once we buy the game, who in ANet actually gives a damn afterwards? They made their money, that's it.
Monthly payments make it so the devs are always working to keep their cash flow per month. ANet, not only not having to do that, doesn't give a damn period about Guild Wars, even before GW2 was announced. IMO, ANet is a bad company, there have been things asked since the beginning of GW, and they still haven't fixed it. They better get their game up, or else GW2 will be their last game. They already have a bad rep of short-term fixures w/o actually solving it for good. Look how long the report feature took, or the leavers in RA, or the spamming of trades. |
lol and lol ...
i will not pay to play GW
Esan
Reading online defecation like this thread makes my brain bleed.
I felt you all had to know that.
I felt you all had to know that.
Alex the Great
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Originally Posted by slowerpoke
the rats are fleeing the sinking ship, halp
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o noes, random people say guild wars isn't fun!!! I bet their right QQ
DON'T LISTEN TO QQers!!!! IF YOU STILL HAVE FUN, NOTHING THEY SAY HAS ANY MEANING.
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Where is the content then? Oh ya, that's right there is none. Sure looks like hard work to me.
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Now I don't know about you, but a game like Guild Wars doesn't really hold up for 3 years. It wasn't DESIGNED to. In fact, it was designed to be a pick up and play game while being easy to seperate yourself from.
Then again, you've not really presented any real arguments other than "I'm entitled to more than what I paid for." You're not.
Gli
OMG! ANet doesn't cater to every whimsical player demand? My representative will hear of this!
Zinger314
You won't like hearing it, but...
This is what happens without a monthly fee.
This is what happens without a monthly fee.
Gli
So paying a monthly fee leads to every crappy, nonsensical, myopic and useless player suggestion being implemented, STAT? Awesome!
Iuris
GW is a simple deal: buy the campaign, play the campaign forever with no extra charge. Want more content? Buy more campaigns/expansions. Anet has not only upheld its end, it even went beyond by offering more than that, things like extra item skins, Furnace, events,...
Anet has the BEST record with game decisions I've ever seen. Even the few decisions I don't agree with at least make sense. The top company, as far as I'm concerned.
However, some changes simply cannot be implemented - like the auction house - at least not without redesigning the client, which is why they're working on GW2). So the wise man realizes that this simply is not coming.
Anet has the BEST record with game decisions I've ever seen. Even the few decisions I don't agree with at least make sense. The top company, as far as I'm concerned.
However, some changes simply cannot be implemented - like the auction house - at least not without redesigning the client, which is why they're working on GW2). So the wise man realizes that this simply is not coming.
Iuris
GW is a simple deal: buy the campaign, play the campaign forever with no extra charge. Want more content? Buy more campaigns/expansions. Anet has not only upheld its end, it even went beyond by offering more than that, things like extra item skins, Furnace, events,...
Anet has the BEST record with game decisions I've ever seen. Even the few decisions I don't agree with at least make sense. The top company, as far as I'm concerned.
However, some changes simply cannot be implemented - like the auction house - at least not without redesigning the client, which is why they're working on GW2). So the wise man realizes that this simply is not coming.
Anet has the BEST record with game decisions I've ever seen. Even the few decisions I don't agree with at least make sense. The top company, as far as I'm concerned.
However, some changes simply cannot be implemented - like the auction house - at least not without redesigning the client, which is why they're working on GW2). So the wise man realizes that this simply is not coming.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Gli
So paying a monthly fee leads to every crappy, nonsensical, myopic and useless player suggestion being implemented, STAT? Awesome!
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You get what you [don't] pay for.
Turtle222
/requestlock
i really don't think anything else needs to be said
i really don't think anything else needs to be said
Solas
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Dr. Pepper is disgusting swill, and you deserve that if you actually drink the stuff.
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If you had a computer you had that was going great for the past but was a bti outdated, you only had a certain amount of funds(time),
would you
A) Spend a nice fraction of your money (time) on the old computer, buying parts etc, when you know you'll be getting a new computer in 2 years OR
B) Save the vast majority of your money so you can get a better superior computer then the one you planned to get and only run house cleaning on your current comp? (keep in mind that your current computer can rival current computers on the market)
i'd pick b, although it'd be nice to have the extra upgrades there not really nessicary.
+ everything your requesting coudl very well be in GW2 (the new computer)
I MP I
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
You won't like hearing it, but...
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QFT. I still don't get why people complain about this game. Just move on to something else while you wait for GW2 to come out. It's easy! Stop worrying about GW2 being terrible. The beta hasn't even started yet...
Rocky Raccoon
I have played GW for almost 3 years and unlike many who post here, I play at a slow rate and still have much to do. I figure it has cost about $.16 US per day to play, so I figure ANET owes me nothing. Sure there are things that I want in the game that aren't, and some things I would have like changed, but I feel I am owed nothing. I will continue to enjoy GW until GW2 arrives and if I don't I will find something else.
Maniac Monty
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Along with your Sardelaic post which is basically the same thing...
What in the world is your deal? You have a vast feeling of entitlement and inflated self-worth. A.net works their butts off to create a game, and you are just whinning that its not EXACTLY like you want it to be. Game coding is not that easy and requires a very high understanding of math and engineering. When they say "they are working on it" they legitamately are. It's not like there is just a button they can push though to change the server's code instantly and do it bug free. |
Solas
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Originally Posted by Maniac Monty
Well said! Without Anet there would be no guild wars period! You should be thankful that its subscription free, I mean whats the point in having to pay for the game, pay for your internet connection then get more money sucked out your account just so you can actually play the dam thing you have already payed for! Guild Wars is a great game, GW2 will be even better (in time((bugs to fix and what not)) when its released! thats my opinion!) they always try to come up with new ways to keep us interested like all the different events we get to attend! thats all I'll say for now! i'll be back! ^_^
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take a break from guildwars and play other games for a while. mighht make you but Gw in purspective.
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
QFT and Hawk is 100% right,
take a break from guildwars and play other games for a while. mighht make you but Gw in purspective. |
Play WoW. Even just an hour or two of the trial will remind you how awesome Guild Wars is, relative to MMOs such as World of Shitcraft.
stretchs
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Arena Net has had the last straw with me with their currents focus on Guild Wars 2. I love Guild Wars; I have played over 2,000 hours.
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If you would like to use the Restaurant Analogy for gw. Let us put it correctly.
You went into a Steak House, you ordered a steak, got your sides and everything you asked for that it said it had on the menu. They asked you if you wanted some dessert (Factions, NF, EotN) you said sure, and you again received EVERYTHING the menu said it was going to have on it. Then when you were finished you decided you wanted to complain because your bananasplit didnt come with Nuts, even though it clearly never said a word about nuts, then you said, wait I wanted my banana split to also have some real whipped cream instead of redi whip, but alas, the menu told you it only had redi whip on it.
In summation, you got what you paid for, they have even done some free upgrades, ie Sorrows Furnace. Stop the wahmbulance and go play something else if you dont like gw anymore.
zling
all I have to say is that you guys are so, so spoiled!
ANet doesnt owe any of us anything! you paid for the game, you got the game, that's it. the fact that ANet keeps on updating the game and actually trying to fix some things is a BONUS, yes BONUS!
most gaming companies dont care about their games once they're released, ANet does! and what's the thanks they get from the community? whining and more whining! ironic isn't it...
ANet doesnt owe any of us anything! you paid for the game, you got the game, that's it. the fact that ANet keeps on updating the game and actually trying to fix some things is a BONUS, yes BONUS!
most gaming companies dont care about their games once they're released, ANet does! and what's the thanks they get from the community? whining and more whining! ironic isn't it...
R.Shayne
Some good post here but the majority seem to be a bunch of whining about nothing that provides no point or arguments. ANET has never said GW2 is being developed to fix problems with GW1. It has said that it wanted to add more features that they could not do with the existing configuration, like climb trees. My problem is I have never seen tree climbing suggested that many times in the forums nor do I want to climb a tree, did it when I was a kid and climbed a lot of things in the Marines but not in a game. ANET has stated that GW is a service industry so it is not unreasonable to expect some content added and I think ANET has done this from the beginning with Sorrow’s Furnace, new weapon designs, weekend events, etc...
That being all said I am not about to buy GW2 but I am hope that GW1 servers stay open for a very long time, six more years and I may be finished with everything. I have invested over 2,000 hours into guild wars and have played really hard on getting things I wanted and have a lot more hours to play before I am finished. I would buy more expansions and/or campaigns for GW1 and I hope that ANET will consider that in the future.
I don’t think we have been abandon with the new weapons being added into the game and there is always the chance that they may add more armor in the future (silver eagle armor for all classes).
That being all said I am not about to buy GW2 but I am hope that GW1 servers stay open for a very long time, six more years and I may be finished with everything. I have invested over 2,000 hours into guild wars and have played really hard on getting things I wanted and have a lot more hours to play before I am finished. I would buy more expansions and/or campaigns for GW1 and I hope that ANET will consider that in the future.
I don’t think we have been abandon with the new weapons being added into the game and there is always the chance that they may add more armor in the future (silver eagle armor for all classes).
Nightmares Hammer
Guild Wars isn't the only game on earth. There are better games e.g: the MGS series, GTA series, LoK etc... (yes, I still play GW).
Etta
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Originally Posted by Inde
I'm going to go wayyyyyy out of my comfort zone and let this stay open for a bit...
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wilderness
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Originally Posted by Lord Darksoul
IMO, ANet is a bad company, there have been things asked since the beginning of GW, and they still haven't fixed it.
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I mean, we've demanded so much since day one and they've barely paid attention! I mean, what reasonable company wouldn't make sure to keep every single fan happy and every demand met, regardless of the cost or time frame needed?
You're so right, aside from the fact that they've made on of the most enjoyable and successful ftp (post initial campaign purchase) online titles of all time, Anet suck balls!
Sparda
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Originally Posted by zling
all I have to say is that you guys are so, so spoiled!
ANet doesnt owe any of us anything! you paid for the game, you got the game, that's it. the fact that ANet keeps on updating the game and actually trying to fix some things is a BONUS, yes BONUS! most gaming companies dont care about their games once they're released, ANet does! and what's the thanks they get from the community? whining and more whining! ironic isn't it... |
But i wouldn't mind paying another 40 bucks to buy another campaign and/or a expansion.
MithranArkanere
Go to the game box.
Read: "The on-line content may change during the game".
Hm... now, sit and wait. Before the end of May you'll see something new.
Read: "The on-line content may change during the game".
Hm... now, sit and wait. Before the end of May you'll see something new.
I pwnd U
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Originally Posted by stretchs
Such faulty logic should not go unpunished.
If you would like to use the Restaurant Analogy for gw. Let us put it correctly. You went into a Steak House, you ordered a steak, got your sides and everything you asked for that it said it had on the menu. They asked you if you wanted some dessert (Factions, NF, EotN) you said sure, and you again received EVERYTHING the menu said it was going to have on it. Then when you were finished you decided you wanted to complain because your bananasplit didnt come with Nuts, even though it clearly never said a word about nuts, then you said, wait I wanted my banana split to also have some real whipped cream instead of redi whip, but alas, the menu told you it only had redi whip on it. In summation, you got what you paid for, they have even done some free upgrades, ie Sorrows Furnace. Stop the wahmbulance and go play something else if you dont like gw anymore. |
I think that is a much better analogy. Like stretchs said, we got everything they said we would, ya we didn't get what we wanted but if that's not on the "menu" then we shouldn't complain about not getting stuff. They gave us what they said they would.
Skyy High
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates
Read it and stfu.
Read it and stfu.
Ctb
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Diablo II had many of the very baseline features that Guild Wars unforgivably lacks, and what it had wasn't even sufficient for online play back then, sometimes.
The OP's rant is just the same old crap, but don't defend ANET for failing to implement some very basic features that shouldn't have even required a second thought. Auction systems, reasonable party systems, a decent ignore/friends tool, and a decent amount of character customization are all very fundamental things in modern video games. That Guild Wars lacks any of those, much less that it lacks all of them, should be an enormous embarrassment to the people responsible for planning the game.
With any luck, they'll spend a little more time in GW2 merging the innovation of Guild Wars with it's crippling lack of decade-old standard features.
Abedeus
I think most of you missed the point of payments in GW.
We pay one time for a campaign, but that's because we were supposed to be getting 2 chapters in a year. So it would be almost like paying $ each month.
But on the other hand, WoW and other MMORPG players pay monthly fees, but they get much better games (at least at PvE) AND new contents each few weeks.
Plus, I wouldn't expect much from GW2. If they make it like GW, that is districts, closed worlds for each team and so on.... Then what's the point of calling it GW2? Just update the graphics, add new world and done.
If they make it like other MMORPG's, then they'll have to fight with existing titan, WoW, and soon-to-come titans like Aion or Age of Conan. And unless they have something hidden in their sleeve... Tough luck, GW2 will be forgotten. Or they will give us beta and we will see. Either it will be a success (WoW) or a failure (Fury).
We pay one time for a campaign, but that's because we were supposed to be getting 2 chapters in a year. So it would be almost like paying $ each month.
But on the other hand, WoW and other MMORPG players pay monthly fees, but they get much better games (at least at PvE) AND new contents each few weeks.
Plus, I wouldn't expect much from GW2. If they make it like GW, that is districts, closed worlds for each team and so on.... Then what's the point of calling it GW2? Just update the graphics, add new world and done.
If they make it like other MMORPG's, then they'll have to fight with existing titan, WoW, and soon-to-come titans like Aion or Age of Conan. And unless they have something hidden in their sleeve... Tough luck, GW2 will be forgotten. Or they will give us beta and we will see. Either it will be a success (WoW) or a failure (Fury).
Avarre
Why should ANet care? They have your money, they're trying to attract more of it by working on the next game.
In earlier times, they would put out another Chapter to keep your interest, now they go to a new game which gives them a chance to correct a lot of fundamental errors with the game which couldn't be fixed in GW1.
Crying that you're not being given continual free content is absurd. Yes, there are a lot of things that could have been put in the game, that doesn't mean a game has to have them to be successful. Building up a new game gives them a chance to add those things and integrate them better.
In earlier times, they would put out another Chapter to keep your interest, now they go to a new game which gives them a chance to correct a lot of fundamental errors with the game which couldn't be fixed in GW1.
Crying that you're not being given continual free content is absurd. Yes, there are a lot of things that could have been put in the game, that doesn't mean a game has to have them to be successful. Building up a new game gives them a chance to add those things and integrate them better.
You Look Grim
personally i'm fine with things thee way they are.
and i'm glad they're putting so much effort into making
guild wars 2 a huge success
and i'm glad they're putting so much effort into making
guild wars 2 a huge success
tmr819
The only sense in which I have felt "forsaken" is with regard to the complete lack of information about what ArenaNet is up to. I think that's pretty pathetic. I have no real complaints otherwise.
Guild Wars 1 is in maintenance mode; I accept that part just fine.
Right now, it's like Guild Wars and I have this long-distance relationship going on.
See, I get this note from Guilda, the one-time Love of my Life, telling me she's going away to have some serious surgery -- a complete makeover. I'm cool with that, really, since I know she's doing it JUST FOR ME.
But, what, you can't call? You can't write? For months and months and months?
Guilda, Honey. This makeover had better be pretty damn awesome. In the meantime, I have ... needs ... so I'm seeing Someone Else. Fortunately, Guilda and I have a very open relationship.
Guild Wars 1 is in maintenance mode; I accept that part just fine.
Right now, it's like Guild Wars and I have this long-distance relationship going on.
See, I get this note from Guilda, the one-time Love of my Life, telling me she's going away to have some serious surgery -- a complete makeover. I'm cool with that, really, since I know she's doing it JUST FOR ME.
But, what, you can't call? You can't write? For months and months and months?
Guilda, Honey. This makeover had better be pretty damn awesome. In the meantime, I have ... needs ... so I'm seeing Someone Else. Fortunately, Guilda and I have a very open relationship.
wilderness
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I think most of you missed the point of payments in GW.
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plus the fact that on release each Wow chapter costs pretty much the same as a new GWs chapter and you'll further see it's little like a monthly payment plan.
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But on the other hand, WoW and other MMORPG players pay monthly fees, but they get much better games (at least at PvE) AND new contents each few weeks.
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Plus, I wouldn't expect much from GW2. If they make it like GW, that is districts, closed worlds for each team and so on.... Then what's the point of calling it GW2? Just update the graphics, add new world and done.
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GWs was always going to be something of a beta test and I doubt very much they've spent the last few years paying no attention to what their player base wants.
Avai
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
They stopped focusing on GW1 specifically because they want the sequal to be a success.
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explodemyheart
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Originally Posted by Ctb
Lame.
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Anyway, it's the absolute truth. I haven't seen any sort of game that the OP has popped out, let alone this "perfect" game that he seems to want. If you don't think he wants a perfect game, perhaps you should check out to OP's thread in Sardelac. Ridiculous springs to mind. If the OP, or anybody for that matter, thinks they can do a better job, I challenge them to do just that. Go make the perfect game.
Find me a game that, from day one, people haven't wanted this, this or that feature because they don't think the game is good enough without it. That happens because everybody has different opinions on what makes a game good. Game developers, in a lot of cases, do what they can with what they have to please as many people as they can. It's still never good enough for some people.
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Originally Posted by Ctb
Diablo II had many of the very baseline features that Guild Wars unforgivably lacks, and what it had wasn't even sufficient for online play back then, sometimes.
The OP's rant is just the same old crap, but don't defend ANET for failing to implement some very basic features that shouldn't have even required a second thought. Auction systems, reasonable party systems, a decent ignore/friends tool, and a decent amount of character customization are all very fundamental things in modern video games. That Guild Wars lacks any of those, much less that it lacks all of them, should be an enormous embarrassment to the people responsible for planning the game. With any luck, they'll spend a little more time in GW2 merging the innovation of Guild Wars with it's crippling lack of decade-old standard features. |
Direct your attention back to several posts in this thread. GW is incapable of supporting some of these "basic" functions in its current state. Hence the reason for a need for GW2. Until they develop a new game engine, there's absolutely nothing we can do about any lack of said features. So, sure, you can whine about how it's an imperfect game and it needs this or that or could be better or sucks completely, or you know... you could also just shut the hell up and stop playing the game. Go find another game and wait for GW2, or go find another game and don't wait for GW2. Nobody cares either way.