Fixing Arena Net’s Mistakes – Part 1
Character customization is greatly lacking in Guild Wars.
Arena Net is too busy working on Guild Wars 2, so I figured I would fix their problems cause I’m such a nice guy.
Characters Need More Customization In Physical Appearance
-Add Tattoos (All types Girly, Guy, Skulls, Angels, Demons, Etc – Go here for ideas http://www.tattoofinder.com/)
-Allow weight customization (Skinny, Obese, Medium, Etc)
-Allow Earrings (Males + Females; varying sizes + styles + gemstones + gold/silver metal)
-All muscle customization; not all of us want to be a Hercules (Small muscles, large muscles)
-Allow more face customization. Everything on the face should be separate, NO WHOLE FACES! I want to choose a different nose, mouth, ear, eye, eye color, eyebrow, mustache, facial hair, etc I should be able to adjust the size and color of each of these)
-Combine all the hairstyles, faces, into one master selection depending on the expansions you have purchased. Sometimes I want to put a Tyrian face with a Canthan hairstyle with an Elonian skin color. LET ME!
-Allow me to choose my avatar’s animations! They’re should be an animation library in game and anytime I am in an outpost I can change my animations to how I see fit. Player’s shouldn’t be stuck with animations they don’t like.
-Allow me to adjust my looks at anytime. I should have the ability to change my looks once a month without penalty, but to do it more than that there should be a small gold fee to serve as a gold sink. Maybe a couple thousand gold.
-Allow the addition of make up (Sorry, this should be for females only)
-Allow highlights for female hair and be able to adjust the color, location, size of said highlight.
-Allow me to show my weapons in outposts! (Add an option for people who don’t want to see other people’s weapons, and to hide your weapons like we have currently)
-Allow me to select how my weapons are sheathed on my back, on my side, on my backpack, in my backpack, through a belt loop, inside of its own holder!
Feel free to add anything else you think I might have missed!
Fixing Arena Net's Mistake - Part 1 - Character Customization
Toxage
the kurzick eater
yeah this is all good, and will hopefully be implemented in gw2 (the highlights thing is kinda fruity for me, same with makeup and earrings.)
yeah i totally agree with the sheathes n stuff, because honestly, who in the middle ages ran around with their sword out through the entire continent, and then put it in a little tiny pouch that is invisible (I.E. inventory) to store it.
i don't want my war to be obese anymore
yeah i totally agree with the sheathes n stuff, because honestly, who in the middle ages ran around with their sword out through the entire continent, and then put it in a little tiny pouch that is invisible (I.E. inventory) to store it.
i don't want my war to be obese anymore
Toxage
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yeah this is all good, and will hopefully be implemented in gw2 (the highlights thing is kinda fruity for me, same with makeup and earrings.)
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But some of the faces currently in Guild Wars have some make up on them, so I don't feel that make up is too large of a stretch.
Earrings were used for thousands of years; since the dawn of time. It is unusual for their to be no earrings in my opinion.
I_Eat_Haoles
IDK about you guys, but I'm fine with the customization. I dont think I've ever run into a twin on any of my 4 characters.
If you want Tattoos, be a rit
If you want Tattoos, be a rit
Toxage
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IDK about you guys, but I'm fine with the customization. I dont think I've ever run into a twin on any of my 4 characters.
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I have ran into multiple twins of my warrior and ranger. =(
Kyomi Tachibana
I see copies of my characters everywhere, it makes me sad. Very sad.
I would love to see some more in-depth character customization.
I would love to see some more in-depth character customization.
Toxage
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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
I see copies of my characters everywhere, it makes me sad. Very sad.
I would love to see some more in-depth character customization. |
How do you feel when you go on a shopping spree, dressing up your character, and then two seconds later BAM! You run into 5 clones of the exact same armor, shield/offhand, dye as you.. =(
RedStar
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The others are good but come on, it's not the Sims game (and even in the Sims you can't do some of those things xD).
And you can get earrings and necklaces xD while you are wearing certain armors (mostly the canthan ones).
Vilaptca
LOL! Your list is outrageous.
Even WoW doesn't have that kind of customization, and they're making millions of dollars every month. There is no way we'd ever see pretty much any of that in GW.
Nice ideas, but thats all they will ever be.
Even WoW doesn't have that kind of customization, and they're making millions of dollars every month. There is no way we'd ever see pretty much any of that in GW.
Nice ideas, but thats all they will ever be.
tracco
6- No. The different faces identify each character as being from a particular campaign/continent.
7- No... You'd never want to buy another character slot just to look at the dance again. Now, where's the money in that for ANet?
8- Deal... But more than a 'couple thousand'. I'd say 10k or 15k.
Everything else is wonderful, /signed.
7- No... You'd never want to buy another character slot just to look at the dance again. Now, where's the money in that for ANet?
8- Deal... But more than a 'couple thousand'. I'd say 10k or 15k.
Everything else is wonderful, /signed.
Toxage
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Originally Posted by Vilaptca
LOL! Your list is outrageous.
Even WoW doesn't have that kind of customization, and they're making millions of dollars every month. There is no way we'd ever see pretty much any of that in GW. Nice ideas, but thats all they will ever be. |
I hope that Guild Wars will have more advanced technology to do more advanced things than Blizzard seven-nine years before them.
RedStar
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Also even if they added all of those options you will still see your twins. Why ? Because you aren't the only one in the world that likes that face + color + armor + highlight + tatoo + hair style. The can put a million hair style and only 5 will be really cute, 100 will be okay and the rest will be ugly xD.
Btw : I have not seen a twin of my main yet. The closest I came was the same haircut and face and that's all (and I did not pick an ugly face/haircut xD).
GaaaaaH
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Sorry but WoW doesn't really offers a lot on physical customization (weapons and armors are another thing).
Also even if they added all of those options you will still see your twins. Why ? Because you aren't the only one in the world that likes that face + color + armor + highlight + tatoo + hair style. The can put a million hair style and only 5 will be really cute, 100 will be okay and the rest will be ugly xD. Btw : I have not seen a twin of my main yet. The closest I came was the same haircut and face and that's all (and I did not pick an ugly face/haircut xD). |
Imagine the fun of making people hide in fright!
izzywish
Hmm, so we add earrings because they have been around for thousands of years, but men can't wear make-up even though this is the norm in some cultures and has been for thousands of years?
So what you are saying is that you want more customisation, but only if it fits in with your personal preferences?
Way to go
For the record I'm a guy who has never worn make-up ( except when I used to go to Rocky Horror Show), but it seems to me I'd be mighty arrogant to press my attire choices on an entire community!
So what you are saying is that you want more customisation, but only if it fits in with your personal preferences?
Way to go
For the record I'm a guy who has never worn make-up ( except when I used to go to Rocky Horror Show), but it seems to me I'd be mighty arrogant to press my attire choices on an entire community!
Widowmaker
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Btw : I have not seen a twin of my main yet. The closest I came was the same haircut and face and that's all (and I did not pick an ugly face/haircut xD).
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And I agree about males should also have access to make-up, highlights, and jewellery.
But what about piercings? My necro would kill for a lip piercing.
Other than that, I agree with all on the list.
Tarun
/signed - this is so needed and it would require a stylist type NPC for already made characters so there is a way to remake the appearances of your existing chars.
Sir Pandra Pierva
/not signed no make up for males<_<>_>
/signed
/signed
StormDragonZ
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LOL! Your list is outrageous.
Even WoW doesn't have that kind of customization, and they're making millions of dollars every month. There is no way we'd ever see pretty much any of that in GW. Nice ideas, but thats all they will ever be. |
whisp
Are you a girl? I mean I'm sorry, but seriously. I understand the need for character customization, but asking for highlights that you can change the position and color of? And earrings? If you want to play dressup, buy a damn doll. I agree with some of your ideas and opinions ( especially in the other thread ) but this is a game, not a fashion show. The character models could do with a little tweaking but are otherwise pretty decent. I would like to have all the campaigns models blended into one though.
RedStar
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Wouldn't most people describe that as pretty much a twin?
And I agree about males should also have access to make-up, highlights, and jewellery. But what about piercings? My necro would kill for a lip piercing. Other than that, I agree with all on the list. |
But let's see :
The guy is complaining that he sees twins of his chars too much (having the same haircut + hair color + face + armor + dye), so adding accessories or make-up won't change the fact that you have twins xD.
So I used the wrong word, I should have used "a perfect lookalike" xD.
bam23
See City of Heroes for customization.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by Toxage
Fixing Arena Net’s Mistakes – Part 1
Character customization is greatly lacking in Guild Wars. Arena Net is too busy working on Guild Wars 2, so I figured I would fix their problems cause I’m such a nice guy. |
Are you going to type up the programming code for them?
If not this is just another waste of a thread.
/searchpls
-rightuos-
I want a fat mesmer so Norgu has a drinking buddy.
other than that, a better dye mixing scheme would be better for me i don't stare at everyones details to notice most of the things you mention.
and hair I can dye to my liking... yea
other than that, a better dye mixing scheme would be better for me i don't stare at everyones details to notice most of the things you mention.
and hair I can dye to my liking... yea
Macks Mistress
This isn't The Sims. -_-
tmakinen
I would be content with
1. decoupling of faces and professions so that you can pick your favourite from 64 faces instead of just the 8 for the chosen profession
2. three body types: lithe, muscular and fat
Remember that as the degrees of freedom in character customization go up, the details and variety of armor goes down since there's more work to be done with issues like clipping.
Also, professional artists do a better job with faces than 99.9 something % of the player base. If you could make your own, the most common characters you'd see in the game would be Mr. Turdface and Ms. NicePersonality
1. decoupling of faces and professions so that you can pick your favourite from 64 faces instead of just the 8 for the chosen profession
2. three body types: lithe, muscular and fat
Remember that as the degrees of freedom in character customization go up, the details and variety of armor goes down since there's more work to be done with issues like clipping.
Also, professional artists do a better job with faces than 99.9 something % of the player base. If you could make your own, the most common characters you'd see in the game would be Mr. Turdface and Ms. NicePersonality
Oscura_Th
hmm... i'd love to see all that but i think its too much to possibly implement.
the best results with the least changes, as far as i can tell, are:
- separate skin colors, haircolors and heights by campaign
- separate hairstyles and faces by gender and campaign
^i'm sure that these changes could be made
with these two i'm not sure wether they are feasible:
- every exsisting char gets one opportunity to change appearance
- after beating a campaign having for the respective char access to the hairstyles of that campaign
theoretically, you'd have much more possible combinations without the need of any models or textures not already in the game
... could it be that every face/hairstyle/etc has a number, and therefore there would be too many numbers if you don't separate the professions?
about like that: (...) means a number containing information
(tyria)(necromancer)(female)(hairstyle3)(face5)(sk incolor3)(haircolor1)(height8)
and the game doesn't support numbers higher than..9 for example?
... i think i don't know enough about the technical aspects to know what would be possible and what not...
the best results with the least changes, as far as i can tell, are:
- separate skin colors, haircolors and heights by campaign
- separate hairstyles and faces by gender and campaign
^i'm sure that these changes could be made
with these two i'm not sure wether they are feasible:
- every exsisting char gets one opportunity to change appearance
- after beating a campaign having for the respective char access to the hairstyles of that campaign
theoretically, you'd have much more possible combinations without the need of any models or textures not already in the game
... could it be that every face/hairstyle/etc has a number, and therefore there would be too many numbers if you don't separate the professions?
about like that: (...) means a number containing information
(tyria)(necromancer)(female)(hairstyle3)(face5)(sk incolor3)(haircolor1)(height8)
and the game doesn't support numbers higher than..9 for example?
... i think i don't know enough about the technical aspects to know what would be possible and what not...
Thierry2
I'd like to see these things in GW2, but they don't have to add it to GW1 for me. I prefer them to work on GW2
Arduin
Still waiting on your fix. The only things I see is a list of suggestions, and much of them have been suggested many, many times before.
I have never seen an exact copy of my primary character, and can't bothered with all these customizations.
I think it's clear Anet is busy working on GW2. If they decide to invest some resources in GW1, I'd rather have them fixing bugs, or adding playable content.
I have never seen an exact copy of my primary character, and can't bothered with all these customizations.
I think it's clear Anet is busy working on GW2. If they decide to invest some resources in GW1, I'd rather have them fixing bugs, or adding playable content.
Solas
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Fixing Arena Net’s Mistakes – Part 1
Character customization is greatly lacking in Guild Wars. Arena Net is too busy working on Guild Wars 2, so I figured I would fix their problems cause I’m such a nice guy. |
there not problems btw,there just things you'd liek to see in the game.
i.e. i may want air force fighters in Guildwars ( i dont) but then i could say that that was anets problem..the lack or fighter jets.
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Characters Need More Customization In Physical Appearance -Allow the addition of make up (Sorry, this should be for females only) -Allow highlights for female hair and be able to adjust the color, location, size of said highlight. |
if its going to be for one it should be for both, Men have highlights too...and some wear make up
The other idea's are good enough too i think its a bti over the top, a sim2 setup would be nice.
i'd like to see somthing like this for gw2 but too late for gw1
Tatile
Toxage, why don't you write the code to create these things and send it to Anet! I'm sure they'd love to be able to implement these changes, and would appreciate your help 
noneedforclevernames
I think it is humiliating how you steal someone else's idea and make a Thesis out of it. Maybe you should have a 12 thread page bibliography to honor the thousands of people who beat you to coming up with this idea?
Also, real men don't wear earrings so that is out of the question.
So, I am wondering why you want to make a big muscular man with earrings.
Well before I make any other accusations against you, let me just say /notsigned.
EDIT: /notsigned mainly because of the fact that Area Net cannot even make basic armor look realistic {Such as in the Inventory Snapshot of your character a weapon will go through your cape, half of the caster icons go through your hand wrappings, etc...} It will just be horrible if this is implemented. {Such as items you carry to be where an obese character's stomach is located}.
Also, real men don't wear earrings so that is out of the question.
So, I am wondering why you want to make a big muscular man with earrings.
Well before I make any other accusations against you, let me just say /notsigned.
EDIT: /notsigned mainly because of the fact that Area Net cannot even make basic armor look realistic {Such as in the Inventory Snapshot of your character a weapon will go through your cape, half of the caster icons go through your hand wrappings, etc...} It will just be horrible if this is implemented. {Such as items you carry to be where an obese character's stomach is located}.
Kook~NBK~
/not signed since there's nothing broken. (as far as the game goes, anyway,)
distilledwill
If you toned it down a little, Id sign. Id go more for:
Different eyes, mouths and noses and the ability to choose. (although id still like some to be available in Cantha, and not in Tyria etc). These eyes could come with peircings, different make up and such.
Weight customisation. Sounds fine to me, 3 choices - slim, medium, heavy. (not anorexic or obese, there would be far too many ethical issues and Anet would want to be sure theyre putting over a healthy msg).
Muscle customisation. 3 choices - lean, medium, bulky. Again, no hideous wasting away, but no drug-fueled muscle monsters!
Id like to see weapons sheathed in outposts, but not the ability to get them out. I see towns as a safe, combat free zone, no need to have any weapons out other than to show off.
Different eyes, mouths and noses and the ability to choose. (although id still like some to be available in Cantha, and not in Tyria etc). These eyes could come with peircings, different make up and such.
Weight customisation. Sounds fine to me, 3 choices - slim, medium, heavy. (not anorexic or obese, there would be far too many ethical issues and Anet would want to be sure theyre putting over a healthy msg).
Muscle customisation. 3 choices - lean, medium, bulky. Again, no hideous wasting away, but no drug-fueled muscle monsters!
Id like to see weapons sheathed in outposts, but not the ability to get them out. I see towns as a safe, combat free zone, no need to have any weapons out other than to show off.
lorazcyk
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Fixing Arena Net’s Mistakes – Part 1
Character customization is greatly lacking in Guild Wars. Arena Net is too busy working on Guild Wars 2, so I figured I would fix their problems cause I’m such a nice guy. Characters Need More Customization In Physical Appearance -Add Tattoos (All types Girly, Guy, Skulls, Angels, Demons, Etc – Go here for ideas http://www.tattoofinder.com/) -Allow weight customization (Skinny, Obese, Medium, Etc) -Allow Earrings (Males + Females; varying sizes + styles + gemstones + gold/silver metal) -All muscle customization; not all of us want to be a Hercules (Small muscles, large muscles) -Allow more face customization. Everything on the face should be separate, NO WHOLE FACES! I want to choose a different nose, mouth, ear, eye, eye color, eyebrow, mustache, facial hair, etc I should be able to adjust the size and color of each of these) -Combine all the hairstyles, faces, into one master selection depending on the expansions you have purchased. Sometimes I want to put a Tyrian face with a Canthan hairstyle with an Elonian skin color. LET ME! -Allow me to choose my avatar’s animations! They’re should be an animation library in game and anytime I am in an outpost I can change my animations to how I see fit. Player’s shouldn’t be stuck with animations they don’t like. -Allow me to adjust my looks at anytime. I should have the ability to change my looks once a month without penalty, but to do it more than that there should be a small gold fee to serve as a gold sink. Maybe a couple thousand gold. -Allow the addition of make up (Sorry, this should be for females only) -Allow highlights for female hair and be able to adjust the color, location, size of said highlight. -Allow me to show my weapons in outposts! (Add an option for people who don’t want to see other people’s weapons, and to hide your weapons like we have currently) -Allow me to select how my weapons are sheathed on my back, on my side, on my backpack, in my backpack, through a belt loop, inside of its own holder! Feel free to add anything else you think I might have missed! |
If you don't want to be a brute warrior, make a female. The female warriors look like a pretty cinderella running around. Careful, don't forget your glass shoe!
'-Combine all the hairstyles, faces, into one master selection depending on the expansions you have purchased. Sometimes I want to put a Tyrian face with a Canthan hairstyle with an Elonian skin color. LET ME! "
Yup, it's already there, just need a master character creation screen (create profession first, then looks (using all styles available), only select which campaign at the end, default to factions if rit/sin, default to nf if para/derv).
"-Allow highlights for female hair and be able to adjust the color, location, size of said highlight."
That would be REALLY hard to implement, but why not for males? What if I want highlights as a male? Why all the hate against males?
The kurzick eater: "i don't want my war to be obese anymore " he's not. he's muscular. Do a google image search for "wrestler" (I probably mispelled that, sorry)
What really does piss me off tho is that the female characters are so freaking anorexic that their BODY WIDTH is SMALLER than a warriors LEG! WOW! My BF is pretty beefed up, and I'm pretty thin, but in game it seems like I'm an ant!
And here's some tips for you who want more customization: Get textmod and a graphics editor software. It works wonders.
As for the body size, hair style change etc, we're doomed, I agree.
And RedStar is right, no matter how much customization, you'll still see lots of twins. Like, lots and lots of red headed eles and exotic armor female rits. Go figure
wilderness
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-Allow the addition of make up (Sorry, this should be for females only)
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We've been banging on for a hairstylist since almost day one... methinks we'll not see customization on this scale until (hopefully) Gw2.
I'd sign it, but there's little point.
lacasner
This is all fine and dandy, but I would be satisfied with purely a one-time name change, such as what you can do for AT's such as HB acc name.
Sleeper Service
...this has ALL been suggested before, repeatedly, at length.
so all in all this thread = rant in disguise (like your 2 or 3 other threads in riverside?)
way to go "fixing" Anet by accrediting to yourself the combined ideas of several YEARS worth of forum discussion.
so all in all this thread = rant in disguise (like your 2 or 3 other threads in riverside?)
way to go "fixing" Anet by accrediting to yourself the combined ideas of several YEARS worth of forum discussion.
MithranArkanere
Most of this cannot be done in GW1, may be added in GW2, or both.
pamelf
Quite frankly, your list is too extensive. I would love having some more character customization, but honestly, i'd just be happy with pooling all the hairs and faces onto one character customization screen.
My dream customization would be something like what exists in Aion, but with a little more facial customization.
here are some Aion links to show you what i mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJBU9...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7Ip...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkbuz...eature=related
My dream customization would be something like what exists in Aion, but with a little more facial customization.
here are some Aion links to show you what i mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJBU9...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7Ip...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkbuz...eature=related
Widowmaker
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Also, professional artists do a better job with faces than 99.9 something % of the player base. If you could make your own, the most common characters you'd see in the game would be Mr. Turdface and Ms. NicePersonality
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