Ecto Drop Rates

clarke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legendary Drunks [LEET]

15 Apr 2008 at 15:43 - 1

It is commonly believed that the ecto drop rate is 4% from an aaxte and 2% from a smite crawler, although im not sure wether these figures change from NM to HM

I was also curious about the drop rates for terrorweb dryders and banished ghost riders

If anyone could post some factual data about ectos from any monster, this would be very helpful as i intend to create a tombs solo sin (so i dont have to pay 1k because im poor) to eventually get FoW armour

TrippieHippie89

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

Saegertown, PA

High by Nine [Bong]

Me/W

15 Apr 2008 at 15:47 - 2

i believe wiki should probably have something on ecto drop rates already, you may be best off looking there

also with uw it isnt like you need 20k in storage to continuously pay entry fee...just get 1k, do a run and assuming you dont screw up using an id kit on all your drops will probably get you close to 1k to go again, drop your ectos into storage then rinse and repeat

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

15 Apr 2008 at 15:49 - 3

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_rate

Specifically
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Drop...rrorweb_Dryder

If you want ecto, my advice would be to make a solo smite run char, don't solo tombs. Heck, go ursan-happy and do uw clears.

Gl

Tzalaran

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Lincoln, NE

{MERC}

15 Apr 2008 at 16:23 - 4

my experience says that Terrorwebs drop about the same as smites. (i've seen one from each over the past 10 runs, before that never seen webs or smites drop and ecto)

i just figured out how my wife and my 600 smite duo can take the 18 terrorwebs in the ice reaper's quest (perpetual spellbreaker and perpetual SoA rock). i'm going to be making that run quite often from now on and will have more info on Terrorwebs in numbers soon...

overall, we generally get all the aatxes that we can because most of the ectos we've collected have dropped from them... (i think 12 of the 14 we've gotten over 10 runs have come from aatxes...) all done in NM.

i think that mindblades drop ectos more than smites and terrorwebs, but i've only been to the chaos wastes once (successfully) and that wasn't in a duo...

would love to learn how to clear UW in a duo, but i don't SS necro well, and my wife's necro is nowhere near ready...

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

15 Apr 2008 at 16:28 - 5

Idea.

We set up a thread on guru which remains open for 1 week. Each person will get ONE post in the thread. They then re-edit their post over and over after any smite runs they do, listing how many they did, and how many ecto's they got. We can work out an average number of smites to spawn quite easily, and I think a week of maybe 100 people posting would give a faaaairly rough average. I don't personally agree with the 2% statistic...I think it's higher, and the only way we could test it would be through observation

Master Mayhem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

15 Apr 2008 at 16:38 - 6

Today i was doing UW Smites E/mes for nearly 1hr each run lasting 10-12 mins. I did around 4 runs and i got 6 ectos

monk of the godss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Melbourne, Australia

All Hail The P I N K [BeVr]

A/E

15 Apr 2008 at 17:16 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSlayer

This sure sounds progressional, and i would contribute to it highly :P Me and you could start this?

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

15 Apr 2008 at 17:25 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by monk of the godss

This sure sounds progressional, and i would contribute to it highly :P Me and you could start this? I'm down for this too, but does it have to be a solo run....I suppose a duo (i.e. smite/600) would somewhat skew the numbers cuz we wouldn't know what the bald monkey (or whoever smites for you) would be taking

Perhaps we could base it on an assumption constant for the smiter and go from there?

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

15 Apr 2008 at 17:33 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSlayer

I don't personally agree with the 2% statistic...I think it's higher, and the only way we could test it would be through observation

I remember we calculated chances of ecto dropping. I remember I calculated and it seemed pretty true to me. Check http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...100360&page=20 post nr 395.

Also, I saw around page 14 alot more ppl were (trying to) calculating chances. However one needs to remember there is a difference between expectation (40 smites * 0.02 is an expectation) and real chance. Of course we had to make assumptions, but 40 smites seemed reliable, and without your (good btw) idea to make such a thread, the 2% chance seemed pretty accurate.

clarke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legendary Drunks [LEET]

15 Apr 2008 at 19:33 - 10

Seems realistic, might do some solo smite runs with either a famine ranger or earth ele and ill post some drops after a couple o runs

Xx_Sorin_xX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

15 Apr 2008 at 20:10 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSlayer

I don't personally agree with the 2% statistic...I think it's higher, and the only way we could test it would be through observation

i think its lower..which is why its probably 2%. some get a higher number, some get a lower number and overall it evens out to be about 2%

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

15 Apr 2008 at 21:54 - 12

well it appears to have decreased dramatically i did 5 Uw smite runs and did not get a single ecto ><

matsif

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Warriors of Factions [WOF]

E/Me

15 Apr 2008 at 22:01 - 13

all my recent ecto's have come from aataxes, not smites. in fact, havent seen a smite drop an ecto since my last 55/SS run, and that was before factions got released I believe...so no AV and no RH. back when ecto's were worth more than double what they are now

viper11025

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)

15 Apr 2008 at 23:52 - 14

0.025
Is what I been finding.
^.^

Tzalaran

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Lincoln, NE

{MERC}

16 Apr 2008 at 04:13 - 15

my wife and i 600 smited it today and she got 4 ecto drops, 3 from Aatxes and one from a terrorweb. i got one from a mindblade specter in the chaos wastes. had to run and grab it before dying cause i messed up spellbreaker chain...

went in with a hero tonight and first aatxe dropped an ecto for me.

have only seen a smite drop one ever, but i know other people who get most of their ectos from smites...

we were planning on charting our runs to see if there is any pattern, so i'll help out in any thread that gets started.

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

16 Apr 2008 at 05:25 - 16

In my personal experience, which is nowhere near large enough to be "statistically" correct:

Mindblade Spectres > Aatxes = Terrorwebs > Smites

Paul thy god

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/Rt

16 Apr 2008 at 11:40 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Mayhem

Today i was doing UW Smites E/mes for nearly 1hr each run lasting 10-12 mins. I did around 4 runs and i got 6 ectos

How i Loathe you......-.-

Anyway i have started doing solo Smite runs on my dervish in the underworld, and out of about 20 runs i have not had a single ectoplasm dropping from a smite crawler, or anything for that matter,

which makes me wonder, all you people who say "OH LOOK AT ME I USE MY W/Rt AND GET 2-3 ECTOS PER RUN!" either you are incredibly lucky or you are liars or i just have really bad luck.

i too am wondering if its worth trying in hard mode for ectos or if ill get the exact same result. I have attached the build i am using (if the computer likes me and will let me CURSE YOU VISTA)and was wondering if killing them all at once (scythe wise) decreases my chances of an ectoplasm.

i too am all for a thread dedicated to observing ecto drop rates.
Thanks in Advance
Paul Thy God, Almighty And Vengeful

Master Mayhem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

16 Apr 2008 at 12:31 - 18

I think i got lucky on my drops, When i did Smite runs on my w/rt it was like this
30 runs = 0 ectos
31th run = 4 ectos
After that i started getting 3-5 ectos average, but after more couple of runs ectos stopped dropping

I had to do 10 e/mes runs to finally have ectos dropping.

If you are after ectos, gather 20 ectos and start powertrading.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

16 Apr 2008 at 14:10 - 19

Paul - i seem to observe theres "2" types of people that do Uw , 1st set is solo farmers other set is "team" farmers.
We see the people state they got "X" ectos in so many runs but sadly we dont know if its solo or team.
Solo runners are in a way disadvantaged - their target is smites and the 2% chance where team farmers who kill anything that moves have the higher chances - eg 2% + 4% + x% + x% etc.
Also i think hm or nm may have something to do with it as well - i cant say.
One way would be to state if in team and how many in team and how far got - eg did dryders and mindblades and also time taken , then we can compare an average of solo runs with time and ectos multiplied to match an avg team run.
I`ll hazard a guess on average either there will be a slight difference but not by a huge amount.

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

16 Apr 2008 at 14:46 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothan Celt

well it appears to have decreased dramatically i did 5 Uw smite runs and did not get a single ecto >< Clicky
Linking to my own threads saves a re-explanation I guess

clarke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legendary Drunks [LEET]

16 Apr 2008 at 17:01 - 21

Did roughly 8 uw runs for the first time as a famine AV/SV ranger (spending roughly 160k on new armour, fully runed and dyed) mostly making mistakes against graspings or something annoying happening.

Although on my 3 runs that i farmed the smites, killin about 12 groups of smites altogether.... no ectos.

I seriouly dislike the build now and wished i had concentrated on ecto farming in tombs instead so i wouldnt have 1ks vanishing from my storage faster than an egg timer :S

exploiter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

ign Punk Isnt Dead

16 Apr 2008 at 17:15 - 22

Doing 600/Smite runs - Aatxes, Terrorwebs, Smites - got about 3 ecto per run, most from Aatxes

Tzalaran

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Lincoln, NE

{MERC}

17 Apr 2008 at 15:52 - 23

did two runs in UW last night getting 4 ectos total. 600 smite team

first run the 3rd Aatxe dropped it nothing the rest of the way. (got kicked cause coldfires maelstrom killed forgotten Vale reaper)

second run got two from Aatxes and one from a smite. (died in chaos wastes in 3rd mindblade spawn cause i was stupid)

they all dropped to me, but we share 50/50.

we are going to start keeping track of how many of each type we kill, or at least how many ecto droppers spawn for each stage of our run... (unwanted guests and escort of souls quests spawn alot of ecto droppers...)

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

17 Apr 2008 at 18:01 - 24

Rather than doing the short smite runs, I do at least 3 quests whenever I'm in UW. Obviously Clear the Chamber (those first 3 Terrorwebs have dropped ecto a few times), Unwanted Guests, and Escort of Souls. The loads of Terrorwebs and Mindblade Spectres is beautiful, and I've even had Keepers drop ecto before.

Back to the point, instead of doing multiple short runs hoping for ecto, I try to beat the odds and kill enough ecto-droppers that if I don't get any early on, I'm bound to get some later. Sometimes they come early, sometimes they're later. If you're lucky and you haven't gotten anything early on, this can happen:

It's just getting to the point where you beat those odds.

clarke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legendary Drunks [LEET]

17 Apr 2008 at 18:16 - 25

After my completely failed attempt at famine-ing UW, i did 1 run at tombs n got an ecto, i think UW just hates me :P

Wouldnt mind seeing that invinci shadow form cry Uw build btw ...

Hatchet Child

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Wales

No longer actively playing.

17 Apr 2008 at 19:36 - 26

I get 'Alot' more in NM then HM.

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

18 Apr 2008 at 03:48 - 27

ya seems that. Iv seen this on NM Uw Clear. Get alot more ectos in NM UW Clear than HM UW Clear idk why. In one run about 14+ ectos dropped in my first UW Clear Run. I was surpised alot, are terra got about 8-10e from it not mention the ones from UW End Chest. Might heard me say this, so many ectos are dropping more in Etneral Wasteland(aka Chaos Plains).

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

18 Apr 2008 at 06:20 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatar Exico

Might heard me say this, so many ectos are dropping more in Etneral Wasteland(aka Chaos Plains). Infested by Mindblades. Makes me wonder if they haven't just been my personal lucky monster.

Either way, to the Chaos Planes I will head this weekend. Also, Spawning Pools deserve an investigation.

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

18 Apr 2008 at 07:34 - 29

Spawning pools is a b*tch, It takes too long to farm it. Chaos planes is the fastest and best option, believe me.

Tzalaran

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Lincoln, NE

{MERC}

18 Apr 2008 at 12:06 - 30

600/smite duo

1st run 1 ecto from an Aatxe (didn't get to smites)

2nd run 3 ectos 1 from Aatxe and 2 from smites (completed ice wastes quest, unwanted guests, escort of souls - got kicked cause graspings killed a soul when we were leaving the area)

lordheinous

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

19 Apr 2008 at 04:32 - 31

I just started farming chaos plains+bone pits a couple days ago w/ a slightly modified perma sf build I got off of pvx wiki. I had never farmed uw before, and never done perma sf before (though I did practice the timing before I went in) and screwed up a lotr in the beginning. Even now that I can use the build perfectly, there are still some times when the obsidian behemoths block the passage so you can't get by

However, this run is insanely profitable; my first complete run (aka I didn't fail halfway through) I got 7 ectos, 2nd 4 ectos+ruby, 3rd 7 ectos+ruby, 4th 8 ectos, and my most recent one 10 ectos+sapphire. This might just be because of the large number of foes though; there are 208 ecto dropping foes in the chaos plains, and I don't know how many in bone pits, I'd estimate somewhere between 25 and 50 though.

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

19 Apr 2008 at 07:25 - 32

Yeah, I need to go to Bone Pits as well. Never had the motivation to go there but with the build I do definitely need to try it out.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

19 Apr 2008 at 13:25 - 33

For those doing 600/smite and having problems with bohemoths ( either blocking or taking too long to kill ) i suggest taking ss necro along as 3 man team - we now farm Uw this way as the extra person does help a lot - also if necro goes n/mo he can carry res and be usefull incase the smiter dies.
Its damn annoying when you want to get to chaos planes etc and the bohemoths at the start are blocking everything.
Also with the extra ss coldfires and dryders tend to drop a lot faster ( if you`ve ever done 55/ss you`ll know how fast compared to 600/smite )

Rothan Celt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Aura

Mo/R

19 Apr 2008 at 15:20 - 34

10 smite runs = 1 ecto
Thats my experience at any rate

All the Evil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

19 Apr 2008 at 16:08 - 35

last 4 duo runs, cleared chamber, then went to smites and did the grenth grenth in iceworld (the 3 groupes of dryders), in all the 4 runs dropped 2 ectos, both not for me :>
i guess i killed like 100+ dryders yet, and never saw them drop any ecto
all on NM

maybe i am just not lucky? :>

Shazars perma sin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2008

Order of Celestial Dragon

A/E

03 Nov 2008 at 17:16 - 36

Hey im right now farming Tombs and ive got 11 ectos from about 20 runs but the 10 first were not HM so i guess it could be some mroe :P i think its really great and you get and ectos like evry second run or luckyly 2 ectos from one run and runs takes only 5 minutes or less

Good Luck

XkristoferX

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Nashville, TN

Order of the Crimson Phoenix

Mo/

05 Nov 2008 at 20:42 - 37

i just ran UW w/ A/Me in HM. i did 3 runs and got 2 ectos, 3 golds and 1 lockpick. took 42 minutes total.

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