Frames Per Second (FPS)
kyusai
I finally re-formatted my PC and got it back up and running with a new video card. I purchased a 256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro and thought I was going to get blown away results from it. I installed Guild Wars and I am only getting 30 fps constant. Is there any way to increase my FPS so that the game looks much smoother?
Brianna
Hmm, post your other system specs to see what we're dealing with.
It's not always just the video card that produces good frames, the processor plays a role in it too.
For instance my 1.8 Ghz Amd Sempron and GeForce 8600GT only get 20-30FPS, that is because the processor sucks and it's too slow. when I had the 8600 in this computer, with an AMD Athlon 6000+ it got 60.
It's not always just the video card that produces good frames, the processor plays a role in it too.
For instance my 1.8 Ghz Amd Sempron and GeForce 8600GT only get 20-30FPS, that is because the processor sucks and it's too slow. when I had the 8600 in this computer, with an AMD Athlon 6000+ it got 60.
kyusai
Dell Dimension 4600
Pentium 4 with HT (Hyper Threading) @ 3.0GHz
1GIG of RAM
80GIG Hard Drive
256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro
Dell 19' CRT P992 Monitor
Pentium 4 with HT (Hyper Threading) @ 3.0GHz
1GIG of RAM
80GIG Hard Drive
256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro
Dell 19' CRT P992 Monitor
Brianna
Hmm that processor should be just fine for it then, and 1 gig of RAM is good.
It may just be that particular video card model - or the drivers.
I don't know a lot about ATI cards, maybe someone who does could confirm if that card should get more than 30 frames or not?
It may just be that particular video card model - or the drivers.
I don't know a lot about ATI cards, maybe someone who does could confirm if that card should get more than 30 frames or not?
kyusai
Before I had a 128MB Radeon 9800 Pro and it ran pretty smoothly but then I had problems with it and then it just dyed out on me. This new card I have, the 256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro is faster, newer technology, and should be running an efficient FPS rate. At my Display Settings, it says "Plug and Play Monitor"...Maybe do I have to put in my Dell P992 Disc to update the drivers of the monitor? I have all the updated drivers for my graphics card already.
rob0626
correct me if i'm wrong, but the monitor doesn't effect the frame rates. fps is all internal hardware based. is your bios updated? and what is your gpu clock and the graphics memory clock speed?
Admael
Monitor effects frame rates. Vsync caps your FPS to the speed of your monitor's refresh rate.
kyusai
I just re-formatted so I would assume my BIOS is updated...Here is some information that might be helpful:
-40 Unified Stream Processors
-Memory path - 64-bit interface
-GPU Clock – 520MHz
-Memory Clock - 800MHz effective
-40 Unified Stream Processors
-Memory path - 64-bit interface
-GPU Clock – 520MHz
-Memory Clock - 800MHz effective
rob0626
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Originally Posted by Admael
Monitor effects frame rates. Vsync caps your FPS to the speed of your monitor's refresh rate.
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Control Panel > Display > Monitor
Under there the screen refresh rate is listed, make sure the hide modes that cannot be displayed is checked. what is the refresh rate.
EDIT: idk much about ati but the 64-bit interface is a lot slower than an 128-bit one. that could would slow it down, but i dont think to only 30 fps. what interface is the card ex. pci, agp, pci-e?
Joshthor
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Originally Posted by kyusai
I finally re-formatted my PC and got it back up and running with a new video card. I purchased a 256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro and thought I was going to get blown away results from it. I installed Guild Wars and I am only getting 30 fps constant. Is there any way to increase my FPS so that the game looks much smoother?
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note: with reflections and shadows and post processing and v-sync (i dont see much of a difference with any of these) i get 45-55 fps
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Joshthor
this card will NEVER blow you away. i have the exact same card, and on max settings i get about 25-30 fps constant. best thing you can do to increase the fps is lower/turn off the things you dont want/need (i dont use shadows, dont pay attention to them, also i take off reflections). this isnt an amazing card. also, the human eye sees at 28 fps (i think thats the number, i know im only 4 off at max) so you shouldnt really have much of a sight difference with 30 than say 45 or even 3242 (i think you could have a siezure at this rate actually).
note: with reflections and shadows and post processing and v-sync (i dont see much of a difference with any of these) i get 45-55 fps |
Here, have a look at this:
http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm
But yeh, that card is far from top of the line. Expect 25-40 on that thing, especially with the inefficient P4 processor.
kyusai
I might as well just buy a new computer :P
Brianna
Aye, if you're going to buy one new big part, just buy all new parts to compliment it.
I'd say it's about time you bought a new system anyway, just use your old one as a secondary system for mucking around on.
I'd say it's about time you bought a new system anyway, just use your old one as a secondary system for mucking around on.
Blackhearted
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Originally Posted by kyusai
Before I had a 128MB Radeon 9800 Pro and it ran pretty smoothly but then I had problems with it and then it just dyed out on me. This new card I have, the 256MB Radeon HD 2400 Pro is faster, newer technology, and should be running an efficient FPS rate. At my Display Settings, it says "Plug and Play Monitor"...Maybe do I have to put in my Dell P992 Disc to update the drivers of the monitor? I have all the updated drivers for my graphics card already.
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Admael
You can get more FPS if you turn vsync off. I played the game fine with my Core Duo. (first gen Core series, similar/slower than the Pentium 4's)
I got like <20 FPS in town and 40 consistent, 50 max with vsync on. You probably can get more by turning it off!
No need to upgrade so soon.
I got like <20 FPS in town and 40 consistent, 50 max with vsync on. You probably can get more by turning it off!
No need to upgrade so soon.
Bront
Check your default settings.
If you have AA and other bells and whistles all cranked up to max, the 2400 may have a slight problem. Try turning AA down. that's often a big culpret.
If you have AA and other bells and whistles all cranked up to max, the 2400 may have a slight problem. Try turning AA down. that's often a big culpret.
Aera
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Originally Posted by Admael
You can get more FPS if you turn vsync off. I played the game fine with my Core Duo. (first gen Core series, similar/slower than the Pentium 4's)
I got like <20 FPS in town and 40 consistent, 50 max with vsync on. You probably can get more by turning it off! No need to upgrade so soon |
As I said, there's no graphical difference, and there's no visual difference between 75 or 200 fps, so there is no reason to NOT have V-Sync enabled.
( unless you're benchmarking )
moriz
the radeon 9800PRO is considered a high end card 3 years ago, which also happens to coincide with the release of GW. my friend had one of these cards before, and it could run GW at max settings, with driver-forced AAx8 and AFx16, and maintain 56-57 fps at 1280x1024 resolution.
the HD2400PRO is more geared towards office apps and multi-screen support than actual gaming. if you want decent gaming performance, you'll need at least a HD2600PRO or HD2600XT.
and just as another point of reference:
comparing a 9800PRO to a HD2400PRO is like comparing a '69 ferrari to a '08 civic. the ferrari is still gonna beat the living bejesus out of the civic no matter what. same thing with the cards.
the HD2400PRO is more geared towards office apps and multi-screen support than actual gaming. if you want decent gaming performance, you'll need at least a HD2600PRO or HD2600XT.
and just as another point of reference:
comparing a 9800PRO to a HD2400PRO is like comparing a '69 ferrari to a '08 civic. the ferrari is still gonna beat the living bejesus out of the civic no matter what. same thing with the cards.
tijo
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comparing a 9800PRO to a HD2400PRO is like comparing a '69 ferrari to a '08 civic. the ferrari is still gonna beat the living bejesus out of the civic no matter what. same thing with the cards.
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Unless you buy a new video card, you'll be stuck with fps you have. As for v-sync, it synchronizes your fps with your monitor's refresh rate. i.e. if your refresh rate is 60Hz, your fps will be 30, 60 etc if your video card is capable to maintain it.
EDIT: this doesn't apply to your case, but v-sync is there to prevent tearing on high end systems where the fps can be too high for your refresh rate.
lordpwn
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Originally Posted by tijo
this doesn't apply to your case, but v-sync is there to prevent tearing on high end systems where the fps can be too high for your refresh rate.
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Of course, since it hurts the FPS a little (and can cause a frame or two of input lag) it makes more sense to turn it on if the game is already running very fast.
Lord Sojar
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QFT!
Unless you buy a new video card, you'll be stuck with fps you have. As for v-sync, it synchronizes your fps with your monitor's refresh rate. i.e. if your refresh rate is 60Hz, your fps will be 30, 60 etc if your video card is capable to maintain it. EDIT: this doesn't apply to your case, but v-sync is there to prevent tearing on high end systems where the fps can be too high for your refresh rate. |
I LOLed. When I built this PC, my GW FPS was in the 400's in several areas. Talk about tearing, lol. I have V-sync enabled now, and I rarely (Loading into Kamadan AD1 can do it) drop below the beautifully smooth 60 FPS.
Quaker
The resolution you're trying to play at will make a difference. Since it's a CRT, the rez can vary a lot. If you have it jacked up to something like 1600x1200, try backing it down to something less.