"Don't Believe Their Lies!"

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

I believe with the recent addition of so many hexes etc. that this skill should be re-introduced into the warrior tree, but changed so it cannot be abused by other classes.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Do...eir_Lies%21%22

Supposed Change: Strength Based - 1% - 50% depending on Str. Attribute. And allow Self-targeting.

Still would remain 10e and 30 second recharge. Perhaps add a shout duration instead of instant-action only triggering on current hexes.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Would be a nice addition, but I'm curious as to how they'd add in more skills.

/signed

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

I like this one. make it str and its a great war skill.

/signed

~the rat~

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

/nope

This skill was removed before the release of Guild Wars Prophecies in 2005.

This destroys 2 classes. necro and mez. this was probably the reason it was removed in the 1st place.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

50% from your hexes is alot
you'd get hex duration like on bosses in PvE
make it 20% maximum cuz 50% is way too much

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

I dont get why it should be "warrior only so other classes cant abuse it", mainly cause theres no real reason why warrios should abuse it? why shouldnt this be say...paragon?

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Yeah, 50% is too much. 20 or even 25% would be nice. The skill would be very useful in HM areas where you get overwhelmed with hexes.
Tie it to tactics maybe? That attribute is dead and needs a useful skill.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

If this ever does make its way back into the game, I'm going to agree that 20% should be the max. I mean, cutting all hexes by half with a shout is a bit overkill.

CagedinSanity

CagedinSanity

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Away from you.

W/

Giving this to Paragons would make more sense.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

They could bring it back as a PvE unlinked skill, since it has no variable parts.
It does look like a PvE skill.

Brian Fellow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[STAR]

Rt/

Yeah a Vanguard skill where its 10-20% from Charr and 1-10% less from others

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Instead of 50%, just make it 33% and it only does it for two hexes. Easy, no?

Serenitysong

Serenitysong

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Clandestiny of Solitude [LaZy]

E/

33% instead of 50%
and
a paragon skill instead of warrior

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

well so far Monks and Mesmers have the most hex removal skills, Dervishes have 2 (although 1 is an elite form) and Paragons already have Hexbreaker Aria.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Hm... the Lightbringer rank has only 3 skills. It could have 5..7 more.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

As a pve only skill maybe.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenitysong
33% instead of 50%
and
a paragon skill instead of warrior
/agree

would get abused as a warrior skill

Fear Me!

Fear Me!

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/R

Wow, 50%, that's like a predator(from the movie Predator 1987) hunting down a gamer; overkill.

Damuffinator

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

I think this would be a better paragon skill as opposed to warrior. It could fit nicely under Motivation

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
As a pve only skill maybe.
²
cutting a piece out of hexes their duration for all party members and unremovable effect is a bit too powerful
either PvE only or as an elite skill

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Wammos would have an easier time when Emphatied.
NO!

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Wammos would have an easier time when Emphatied.
NO!
or migraine mesmers and other builds that rely on hexes

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

If for PvE only, then ok.


But strong shouts such as that one tend to break pvp, so it couldn't be a in the normal skill trees.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

It was removed for a reason.

I say we bring back the old Unnatural Signet! lol

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
It was removed for a reason.

I say we bring back the old Unnatural Signet! lol
PvE skills didn't existed by them...

Now skills like this one or Disappear sounds quite PvE.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Tactics line (tactics would be useful again), with 10-25% reduce and gg.

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

It was called the "Hod Lieutenant Helmet", which used to have the same effect as this skill, only permanent (while wearing the helmet), only the Warrior that wore it, and at the cost of 20 AL, which was negated by Armor swapping.
There's a reason the Lieutenant's Insignia has the stats it does now. Because a 50% cut is a lot.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

I don't think shouts are a good way to fight with hexes. I would probably like to see some monk and mesmer elites buffed in this area, instead of getting something unremovable and party based to reduce the duration.

Oh and yes, I am aware of the anti-shout hexes, but still wouldn't cut it to stop this kind of hex 'removal'.