For anyone who didn't catch the other thread here on guru, Target was selling GW:Eye of the North for $9.99 for about 6 weeks and then suddenly changed the price to $29.99 and set the game as 'discontinued.'
Turns out that GW:EN is not technically 'gone', you just may have to buy this new GW:Platinum instead, which is GW:Prophecies bundled with GW:Eye of the North. It just came out within the past day or so and is currently selling for $49.99.
Seeing as you can usually get Prophecices for $20-29 depending on where you shop, what do you all think of the price of the Platinum edition and the idea that Eye of the North might not be purchasable by itself anymore, unless you go to the in-game store?
No more GW:EN boxes in stores? GW:Platinum is out...
ducktape
*Gem*
Well I checked two places here in the UK (amazon.co.uk & .game.co.uk) both are selling EOTN seperatly at about £15.
Maybe it is just for that store?
Maybe it is just for that store?
Lawrence Chang
I guess it's part of Anets' strategy of making more money by forcing buyers to pay for two games. It can also be to clear up some confusion, as GWEN isn't really a stand alone game.
wetsparks
It has nothing to do with ANet, NCSoft does all the selling to stores and then the stores do whatever they want to do.
ducktape
Well, all the targets in the target region (not just district) where I work have discontinued the stand-alone copy of Eye of the North, so it's definitely not just the one store. For something so general as a video game, it's hard to imagine that only one part of the country would get rid of a game and the other parts of the country would continue to carry it. It is very likely that target in general will stop carrying the game in its original version, maybe not all at the same time but probably within the same financial quarter.
I am bad at maths, isn't 15 british dollars worth like 27 american dollars these days?
Good point about the change possibly being to clear up confusion about needing other GW games to play GW:EN. I personally think it would suck to just have the choice taken away from you because you have reading comprehension and other people do not, but I am not a game publisher so oh well :P.
EDIT: I'm sure other people on guru work at other places (best buy, gamestop, etc) that sell video games and sell GW games, and am very curious to see if their companies are discontinuing the plain GW:EN as well. Perhaps anyone from other brands of stores could chime in with what their company is doing with the game?
I am bad at maths, isn't 15 british dollars worth like 27 american dollars these days?
Good point about the change possibly being to clear up confusion about needing other GW games to play GW:EN. I personally think it would suck to just have the choice taken away from you because you have reading comprehension and other people do not, but I am not a game publisher so oh well :P.
EDIT: I'm sure other people on guru work at other places (best buy, gamestop, etc) that sell video games and sell GW games, and am very curious to see if their companies are discontinuing the plain GW:EN as well. Perhaps anyone from other brands of stores could chime in with what their company is doing with the game?
*Gem*
It works out at around $30 I believe.
I agree that It may be due to the confusion.
I agree that It may be due to the confusion.
Elder III
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For anyone who didn't catch the other thread here on guru, Target was selling GW:Eye of the North for $9.99 for about 6 weeks and then suddenly changed the price to $29.99 and set the game as 'discontinued.'
Turns out that GW:EN is not technically 'gone', you just may have to buy this new GW:Platinum instead, which is GW:Prophecies bundled with GW:Eye of the North. It just came out within the past day or so and is currently selling for $49.99. Seeing as you can usually get Prophecices for $20-29 depending on where you shop, what do you all think of the price of the Platinum edition and the idea that Eye of the North might not be purchasable by itself anymore, unless you go to the in-game store? |
DivineEnvoy
In Canada, Futureshops sell Eye of the North for 9.99 Canadian dollars while selling the Platinum version for 59.99 Canadian dollars.
As we all know, Eye of the North is an expansion, and it requires the ownership of one of the campaigns to actually play it. Normally, when a gamer goes out to check out video games in local retailers, they would only purchase one game at a time and try that game out. In this case, I'm guessing that Eye of the North is not new player friendly. In related to this, it is not surprising that Eye of the North may not have been as popular as average campaigns were, and the reduction in price is probably a sign for that.
Now then, not trying to offend any retailers here, but gamers are usually more resourceful in comparison to retailers in local retail stores. For example, when I was about to purchase Factions in my local retail store, I asked the person who worked in the game department about Factions-related features, and he replied to me that Factions require the previous campaign in order to play the game. As we all know, Factions is a stand-alone game; it even say so on the box. My point is that retailers have to manage more than one video game at a time, and there are times when they would make mistakes. Consequently, it seems to me that you might have jumped to conclusion a little early there.
As we all know, Eye of the North is an expansion, and it requires the ownership of one of the campaigns to actually play it. Normally, when a gamer goes out to check out video games in local retailers, they would only purchase one game at a time and try that game out. In this case, I'm guessing that Eye of the North is not new player friendly. In related to this, it is not surprising that Eye of the North may not have been as popular as average campaigns were, and the reduction in price is probably a sign for that.
Now then, not trying to offend any retailers here, but gamers are usually more resourceful in comparison to retailers in local retail stores. For example, when I was about to purchase Factions in my local retail store, I asked the person who worked in the game department about Factions-related features, and he replied to me that Factions require the previous campaign in order to play the game. As we all know, Factions is a stand-alone game; it even say so on the box. My point is that retailers have to manage more than one video game at a time, and there are times when they would make mistakes. Consequently, it seems to me that you might have jumped to conclusion a little early there.
Etta
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Game is selling EOTN for £9.99.
http://www.game.co.uk/PC/RolePlaying...-of-the-North/
Ctb
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It cuts production costs.
GWEN has been out for some time now and was available as a stand-alone boxed product for all of that time for people who couldn't or wouldn't buy it online, but already had a campaign. Most of the people who had a campaign and wanted the expansion have GWEN already, so it makes sense to eliminate the extra boxed product.
Doesn't really effect anything. The only people impacted will be anybody who can't/won't purchase it online and already has, or doesn't want Prophecies. I seriously doubt there are enough of those people around to cost-justify continuing to produce a boxed GWEN product separately.
It's just common sense. I don't have access to their raw sales and production data, obviously, but I can't imagine there's much demand for just GWEN or Prophecies, anymore.
captain_carter
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As far as I am aware GW: Platinum has been out and available since the release of EotN. A statement that the release date on amazon.co.uk provides evidence for.
ducktape
Hmm, I have never seen Platinum edition in any other stores like best buy, gamestop, etc, but then again it's not like they have a reserved spot on a shelf where you can notice "hey a game goes here but it's out of stock right now". Since I had never seen it before in any kind of store and had not heard anyone talk about it, I figured it was new.
Yes I know british money is called pounds. In america pounds are a measurement of weight, it feels weird to call money by that term so I call it british dollars instead. It's the only currency I do that with. Sue me.
I guess I can see the point about lowering production costs if not many people are buying it in the stores, but as far as I know there are still a lot of people outside of the USA who can't buy things from the online store even when they want to. It seemed kind of like a kick in the head to make them buy the game as a bundle from stores if the plain GW:EN product is discontinued from the publisher and not just discontinued at certain retailers. That's what I'm really wondering, what is the extent of the discontinuation of the standalone game?
Yes I know british money is called pounds. In america pounds are a measurement of weight, it feels weird to call money by that term so I call it british dollars instead. It's the only currency I do that with. Sue me.
I guess I can see the point about lowering production costs if not many people are buying it in the stores, but as far as I know there are still a lot of people outside of the USA who can't buy things from the online store even when they want to. It seemed kind of like a kick in the head to make them buy the game as a bundle from stores if the plain GW:EN product is discontinued from the publisher and not just discontinued at certain retailers. That's what I'm really wondering, what is the extent of the discontinuation of the standalone game?
cebalrai
The Circuit City near me has odd pricing...
Prophecies: $49.99
Factions & Nightfall: $39.99
GWEN: $16.99
Platinum (Proph + GWEN): $39.99
Prophecies: $49.99
Factions & Nightfall: $39.99
GWEN: $16.99
Platinum (Proph + GWEN): $39.99
DarkWasp
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The Circuit City near me has odd pricing...
Prophecies: $49.99 Factions & Nightfall: $39.99 GWEN: $16.99 Platinum (Proph + GWEN): $39.99 |
Hahaha thats great.
ogre_jd
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The Circuit City near me has odd pricing...
Prophecies: $49.99 Factions & Nightfall: $39.99 GWEN: $16.99 Platinum (Proph + GWEN): $39.99 |
Mork from Ork
It may also be a Taget policy rather than NCSoft - our local target store only sells new games and dvds for a limited time. After that they just don't order anymore.
Ctb
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Toxage
Arena Net bundled Prophecies with GWEN because they are in a desperate for funding.
By forcing players to purchase an expansion, they get more money.
By forcing players to purchase an expansion, they get more money.
Ctb
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Arena Net bundled Prophecies with GWEN because they are in a desperate for funding.
By forcing players to purchase an expansion, they get more money. |
Tell you what. I'll give you one chance to post ANY evidence at all of this claim before I start openly mocking you for being utterly silly.
Toxage
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You just live in your own little world, huh?
Tell you what. I'll give you one chance to post ANY evidence at all of this claim before I start openly mocking you for being utterly silly. |
1) Bonus Mission Pack - 4 Missions for $10? Desperate cry for help.
2) Server Lag - Arena Net was forced to use lower quality servers, due to lack of funds and couldn't afford the higher end ones.
3) Arena Net can't afford to keep even a few people working on Guild Wars. How bad does a company have to be to not afford a FEW employees?
4) Character slots. Arena Net denied customers character slots so we would be forced to use in game store to purchase them.
Open your eyes.
Elder III
I think toxage was joking there.... right? At least I hope so, since I seriously doubt Anet is lacking on funds after selling what, like 5 million copies so far...? 
HawkofStorms
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Arena Net bundled Prophecies with GWEN because they are in a desperate for funding.
By forcing players to purchase an expansion, they get more money. |
Toxage, every single post you make is a troll, and often has huge logic flaws like this one. No one takes you seriously. I think you are an employee for a revial company being paid to insult GW on forums.
Ctb
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Have you been living under a rock?
1) Bonus Mission Pack - 4 Missions for $10? Desperate cry for help. 2) Server Lag - Arena Net was forced to use lower quality servers, due to lack of funds and couldn't afford the higher end ones. 3) Arena Net can't afford to keep even a few people working on Guild Wars. How bad does a company have to be to not afford a FEW employees? 4) Character slots. Arena Net denied customers character slots so we would be forced to use in game store to purchase them. Open your eyes. |
Kashrlyyk
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I think toxage was joking there.... right? At least I hope so, since I seriously doubt Anet is lacking on funds after selling what, like 5 million copies so far...?
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Xx_Sorin_xX
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Have you been living under a rock?
1) Bonus Mission Pack - 4 Missions for $10? Desperate cry for help. 2) Server Lag - Arena Net was forced to use lower quality servers, due to lack of funds and couldn't afford the higher end ones. 3) Arena Net can't afford to keep even a few people working on Guild Wars. How bad does a company have to be to not afford a FEW employees? 4) Character slots. Arena Net denied customers character slots so we would be forced to use in game store to purchase them. Open your eyes. |
2) Server lag? I have no problem with lag. Might want to check your computer/internet.
3)Proof? Oh and there's this thing they're working on. Not sure if you've heard of it. Called Guild Wars 2
4) What the hell are you talking about here? Custom Character slots? that doesn't even make sense.
Please go away. All you ever do is whine and bitch on this site.
Aerian_Skybane
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Have you been living under a rock?
1) Bonus Mission Pack - 4 Missions for $10? Desperate cry for help. 2) Server Lag - Arena Net was forced to use lower quality servers, due to lack of funds and couldn't afford the higher end ones. 3) Arena Net can't afford to keep even a few people working on Guild Wars. How bad does a company have to be to not afford a FEW employees? 4) Character slots. Arena Net denied customers character slots so we would be forced to use in game store to purchase them. Open your eyes. |
5) ANet constructing an ENIGMA protocol system in their AREANET 51 lab space. Clearly they are desperate for money and are engaging in flouride contamination projects to compliment project MAGIC 12.
I want to believe.
EDIT: Oh I did also have a non-witty response before I got sidetracked. I just wanted to mention that the Target right next to where I work still sells GWEN for 29.99, nothing "discontinued" about it. I think its just a localized Target affair. They price things weird anyways.
Horus Moonlight
Obviously Anet is low on funds. That's why they are kidnapping kids and harvesting their organs for sale in the blackmarket.
captain_carter
Well I'm almost certain that I saw a shelf full of GW:EN boxes in a 'Game' in the UK yesterday, I see no reason why they would stop producing them, nor why selling the remaining stock really cheap would be a good move if that were the case.
I tend to find that reasonably popular stuff that companies have lots of gets sold cheap, if they only have a few copies left ever, then really they can charge however much they like because soon enough they will be selling the only ones left for sale.
I also don't see why they would be discontinued if they are still selling well, the selling price would still be sufficient to make money.
I also find it unlikely that "they" would have run out of boxes so soon after release, stores still have prophecies, factions and nightfall boxes, I wouldn't expect them to have less of a newer product.
Also please post your name and address so I may start the legal proceedings...
I tend to find that reasonably popular stuff that companies have lots of gets sold cheap, if they only have a few copies left ever, then really they can charge however much they like because soon enough they will be selling the only ones left for sale.
I also don't see why they would be discontinued if they are still selling well, the selling price would still be sufficient to make money.
I also find it unlikely that "they" would have run out of boxes so soon after release, stores still have prophecies, factions and nightfall boxes, I wouldn't expect them to have less of a newer product.
Also please post your name and address so I may start the legal proceedings...
warcrap
i went to walmart it was full of GW:en boxes alone.
CyberNigma
While I was in Best Buy, looking for the Age of Conan pre-order, I saw Guild Wars, Factions, Nightfall, GW:EN, Guild Wars Platinum (GW/GW:EN bundle), and Factions Platinum (GW/Factions bundle)... all of them were there..
I imagine we'll see a NF Platinum, but I think a full GW bundle (GW, Factions, Nightfall, GW:EN) would be neat to start out with for new players. btw, forgot to mention that the Factions bundle also had the bonus mission pack in it.
I imagine we'll see a NF Platinum, but I think a full GW bundle (GW, Factions, Nightfall, GW:EN) would be neat to start out with for new players. btw, forgot to mention that the Factions bundle also had the bonus mission pack in it.
-Loki-
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It has nothing to do with ANet, NCSoft does all the selling to stores and then the stores do whatever they want to do.
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