My PC goes crazy! >.<

Trinity Blade

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Dunno what is happening, but a few day's ago it all started, I started up
GW, and I enjoyed playing for like 15 minutes; but then, BAM! Everything frozes, I feared for the worst; but I sadly was right: my computer crashed and I had to restart everything, now my computer ALWAYS makes a awefull noise (its like the Lich gangbanging with undead Rurik..) when I play GW for a while and it has a 50% chance of crashing each time I start GW up..
But now, for the "fun" part, I started up GW; everything went fine, even for 2 hours! I was like "OMFG praise the lord! Hallaluja!" and then, again; BAM! "noooooes!" I screamed, but now a new thing happened: everything frozes AND some strange shit poped up in my GW playscreen: http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6594/gw030vk7.jpg, and the strange thing was; I was terribly lagging, but when I minimized GW, It was (nearly) all gone!

Is this the revenge of digits?
Who know's!

-_-'

Scorpion Boy

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Seems like your vid card is overheating, I'm not sure tho.
Btw you posted in the wrong section.

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Sorry; I havent been able to find a topic named "Damn, my computer sucks - posts here pictures about story's of your suckey computer"

But, thanks for the tip
I might check it..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Blade
(its like the Lich gangbanging with undead Rurik..)
Awsome.


Your vid card is toast.

Trinity Blade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Covah
Awsome.


Your vid card is toast.
Thanks for apreciating my writing skills, but you mean it has been toasted and can
be never be repared again? [/bummer]
Or is there a sprankle of hope for me that I can use a little bit of
Divine Favour/healing prayers to "heal" my video card?

street peddler

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What vid card do you have?

How old is it?

-Revan-

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last time it happened to my video card i had to buy a new one

Rue The Day

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I had the same problem just recently. I did a lot of research and found out the main three causes of this are overheating, weak power supply, or toasted vid card. Since I added another case fan and started monitoring the temp, I figured out that wasn't the issue. I replaced the power supply with a much higher wattage one and the problem seems to be gone.

Good luck in figuring this out! I know how frustrating it can be to suddenly freeze and then to resume with that sort of picture.

Unlucky Slayer

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Tamuril elansar

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your graphic card is fried i think.

Tarun

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You can try a few things before scrapping the card.
Remove the connection from the back of the card (which connects the monitor) and use canned air to remove any dust.
Another thing you can do is take the case off and clean the fans/heatsinks of dust and see if this helps.

MisterMax

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Somewhat of the same thing happened to me when I first got my computer.

After running Crysis on very high settings for a few hours my computer started making a terrible noise, and the graphics got screwy. I popped open the case and looked inside, there was layer of plastic covering between my video card and soundcard. And a part of the plastic was in the fan slowing it down - thus making the noise, and overheating which led to the graphics problems.

Donno, thats just me though.

Tamuril elansar

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before replacing your videocard you could also see if the same thing happens with other games.

Sword Liger

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I had this with my old radeon 9800, check your fan, mostlikely its burnt out and damaged your card. Gonna have to replace it to resolve this problem.

Trinity Blade

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Thanks alot for helping
I might need a new video card; I got now a Nvidea 6800 LE or something; to bad for words -_-

Thanks again ^^

Chthon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Blade
now my computer ALWAYS makes a awefull noise (its like the Lich gangbanging with undead Rurik..)
1. Looks like your video card is fried. Probably heat.

2. I have no idea what the Lich gangbanging with undead Rurik sounds like, but I do know that only two components of a computer make bad noises -- the fans and the drives. Run scandisk on your hard drives and check your fans for dust/hair/dead insects/trace evidence of the Lich gangbanging with undead Rurik. Since it looks like your video card died a heat death, I'd bet it's a fan problem. You may have to replace fans that aren't running right.

3. Turn off your computer, and unplug it, then dust it thoroughly and clean out the fans, heatsink , and air intakes. Pledge Grabbits do a decent job of collecting dust without damaging components.

Trinity Blade

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Is this one any good?

ASUS nVi EN8600GT Silent 256

PCI-E 256MB


97,00 euro

?
I think its pretty good ^^

Elder III

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if that is a NVidia 8600 GT 256 vram then yes it's a pretty good card. 97 euro is something like $160 USD isn't it? If so that's not a bad price, you might do better, but not by much. Make sure that it is compatible with your computer though.

Blackhearted

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Blade
Is this one any good?

ASUS nVi EN8600GT Silent 256

PCI-E 256MB


97,00 euro

?
I think its pretty good ^^
I've heard that version of that card gets ridiculously hot(less than stellar heatsink). If you choose that one you'd better have good airflow in your case.

Admael

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Of course it gets hot.
Anything with the word marketing title "Silent" is bound to run hot.

The 8600 is a good midrange card. I would get one with a better cooler, tho.

Blackhearted

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Admael
Of course it gets hot.
Anything with the word marketing title "Silent" is bound to run hot.
Oh, i know that. But i don't mean like... 70-80°C hot. I mean like.. 90+°C hot.

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Hmm, my range for a video card is round €100,- euro's, I got now a 6800LE and I thought a 8600GT is a pretty good improvement; about the cooling, I have putten a electric fan (not a small one, but a standard size! Its nearly as big as my pc xD) and I put that thing on, think that would be good? :P

And oh, how can I know if my computer is compitable with the card? I thought it was just plug-and play like :P

Admael

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I can see why this can be confusing.

Not all 8600GT's have passive cooling. Some of the other other ones already have a heatsink and fan on the PCB itself.

The specific model you listed, however, does not. It uses passive cooling, which means it uses aluminum/copper plates to cool the GPU and VRAM instead of a fan.

You're better off buying one that does have a fan, if you're worried about overheating.

EDIT: Newer graphics card require PCI-e 2.0. If you want to run the 8600GT you need one free full sized PCI-e 1.0+ slot. This board has two PCI-e 16x slots, top one is blue, bottom one is black. The very small shrimpy one is a PCI-e 1x, will not work. The mid sized white one is PCI.

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Hmm, I'm not sure; but I think I have a white one.. is that good then?
(same size of the picture)
And, about the fan; am I better off with buying a lesser one WITH a fan or this?

EDIT: Is this one better?

Foxconn nVi GF8500GT 512

PCI-E 512MB



Artikelcode: 31265


VGA Bus 16x PCI Express
VGA Chipset Nvidia 8500GT
Memory 512 MB GDDR2 RAMDAC 400 MHz
Resolution: 2048 x 1536
VGA-out: YES
(D-Sub 15pol)
TV-out: YES
HDTV out
DVI: YES
DVI-D
ViVo: NO
Cooling active


84,00 euro

This one HAS a fan

Admael

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You're gonna have to look in a different direction for video cards if you only have that white PCI slot.

Trinity Blade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Admael
You're gonna have to look in a different direction for video cards if you only have that white PCI slot.
Ill post video's later, I got 3 slots or something, exactly the size and details as the stuff posted here, also my current video card is in a black slot, so I think that is a PCI 1.0?

Admael

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You can't tell the bus type just by color, you need more detail. What card do you currently use?

Blackhearted

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According to previous posts their card is a 6800LE. Which, IIRC, was made for both agp and pci-e. So we may not be able to judge which slot solely on that.

Trinity Blade

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Hmm, I got the product key of my motherboard at home, so I think Ill post that later (with some fun pictures of my gigantic fan infront of my computer xD)

Trinity Blade

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Oke, as promised these are the photo's of my computer, we start off with something funny; my computer with the gigantic fan:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2414/dsc0175no7.jpg

now, when you have climbed back on your stair of laughing,
here is a picture with a better detail on the whole motherboard: (and the PCI's)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2842/dsc0176ty3.jpg

Dust dust dust on my fan (motherboard)!

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2959/dsc0178nn6.jpg

Closer look on my video card:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7936/dsc0179xj5.jpg

any tips how I can clean the fan precisely without spending any money on it?

Lord Sojar

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Well, the picture finally loaded for me. Lately, my GW has been doing that also, but not predictably and very seldom. All I do is minimize, at it goes away. But, my GPU's are not overheating nor damaged. So... yeh, it looks like your graphics chip has been damaged by either a core overvolt or heat pocket buildup.

Trinity Blade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Well, the picture finally loaded for me. Lately, my GW has been doing that also, but not predictably and very seldom. All I do is minimize, at it goes away. But, my GPU's are not overheating nor damaged. So... yeh, it looks like your graphics chip has been damaged by either a core overvolt or heat pocket buildup.
Yes oke, but I was planning to buy a new card anyway; but my question was now; is my motherboard compitable with the 8000 series of Nvidea?

Blackhearted

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From the looks of those pics you have an AGP slot. Meaning that while your replacement options wont be as slim as with normal PCI, they'll still not be too huge. And no, You wont be able to get a geforce 8 series card. As nvidia hasn't, and wont, make agp versions of that.

Admael

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ATI X1950GT, X1950PRO or NVIDIA 6800GT, 7900GS

They might be hard to find/discontinued, but they're the best of the AGP. I recommend the 7900GS.

Trinity Blade

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Admael
ATI X1950GT, X1950PRO or NVIDIA 6800GT, 7900GS

They might be hard to find/discontinued, but they're the best of the AGP. I recommend the 7900GS.
Found the 7900GS already, I started to look on google, and viola; for 80 euro's xD

Trinity Blade

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Yaih, I got a Asus EN7900GS Top! But now; I have a lill problem, I readed the manual and it says I need to uninstall my current VGA Driver, but how and where do I do that?

Thanks!

*EDIT; I found a program to do it; but now; which one should I uninstall?
I know already I have got a Nvidea videocard, so I guess I have to de-install the Nvidea one,
but there are two of them; NVIDEA Display and NVIDEA Chipset (I think it is the Display one, but I wont
take any risks..)

Trinity Blade

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Sorry, bump..

Blackhearted

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You'd want the one named "display", in this case.

Personally i wish i had two options like that. Cause when i have to uninstall video drivers it takes my chipset with it. annoying..

Admael

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« Uninstall "Nvidia Display"
« Reboot
« Take out old video card
« Insert new video card
« Download latest drivers and install
« Reboot

Note: Always use the latest drivers, don't use the ones that come with the card, they're already outdated.