Mediocre nuker build

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

The following build is one of the primary builds that I've been using for about a month or so. It has served me well in elite areas such as DoA, Slavers' Exile, and other dungeons. Actually, I did a normal DoA run a couple weeks ago and this build wiped out two huge groups of Margonites in about 7 seconds.

The equipment that I use is as follows:

Adept Tormented Fire Staff of Enchanting
Radient Insignias
Survivor Insignias
Rune of Superior Vigor
Rune of Minor Energy Storage

14pts in Fire Magic
13pts in Energy Storage

You might be able to put in a Rune of Attunement or two if you desire more energy but with 13pts in Energy Storage, I have 85 energy and that's more then enough.

1) Searing Heat
2) Teinai's Heat
3) Meteor Shower
4) Savannah Heat
5) Arcane Echo
6) Mindbender
7) Mark of Rodgot (Or a Resurrection Signet / Deep Freeze)
8) Fire Attunement

Using Arcane echo, you have the choice of echoing Meteor Shower or Savannah Heat. This gives you more AoE damage or twice the knock downs, which is useful in the DoA.

Mindbender, combined with an Adept Staff, gives you 60% faster casting of Metor Shower. Fire Attunement helps manage your energy. I usually have around 40 energy left over after casting all attack spells and by the time your bar is recharged, your energy will be full again.

the ruloes

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Demented Lair Dwellers

Me/Mo

And what do you do once the monsters run out of your AoE?

fuzzy_rabbit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Green Jello [NOX]

E/

85 total energy...

I want to see how long you last trying to arcane echo MS.

85 - 15 (arcane echo) - 25 (MS) - 25 (MS) = 20 energy left

If you bring deep freeze another 25 energy

gg with no BiP

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

without pics cant remember all skills but e-management? soz but failure - use glowing gaze for e-mang or GolE

Koricen

Koricen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

[LoA]

Enemies don't stay in the AoE, so all of the skills that deal damage over time like that won't be very useful. And Fire Attunement can only help so much for energy management, not much hope for this build.

Raku Clayman

Raku Clayman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Marquette MI

Elite Lan Gamer

E/Me

This is one of those cookie cutter builds, or variations of it, that has been around since before EOTN came out. After a while, you will remove a couple of AOE spells and put in some energy efficient attack skills. Against a group of interrupters this build can be rendered useless. Glyph of Concentration can help with that.

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

Actually, energy management is NOT a problem. You are forgetting to add in the energy that you gain back using Fire Attunement.

And if you're concerned with foes running from the AoE, use Deep Freeze. Energy is not a problem and if it is for you, then I suggest you guys start playing more.

-rightuos-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raku Clayman
Glyph of Concentration can help with that. Glyph of Concentration is poop now, it got the nerf backhand yesterday.

ccruzp

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

hum, energy will be a problem unless you are sitting between fights, especially if you Echo Meteor shower , if you put in deep freeze youll run out of energy even faster, you sure you dont bring a BiP or Eve as a Hench?
Abt the Aoe thing , in normal mode monster take enough damage before running and a well place AoE will hit 3+ monster what alone makes it worth it IMO, furthermore , since the build span so much aoe , most of the map will be burning, give it a try, in HM i highly doubt this will be usefull since they react AND move faster to dodge aoe.

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

No, I don't use a BiP or BR or anything. This build does not have energy problems. As I said before, by the time your bar recharges, your energy will be full for a second attack.

And this build works just as well in HM. People, keep in mind that I am talking about attacking groups. You know, when you send in a tank to stand there and take damage.

I started using this build when they nuked Rodgort's Invocation. -_-

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
Radient Insignias I stopped reading here.
Why are you using Radiant Insignias on Ele, of all professions?

If you need more energy, use a high energy set on switch for tose times when you need energy.
And if you need Radiant Insignias, your build is bad. Energy management is better.

@Fuzzy_Rabbit -- Fire Attunement. You're also forgetting regen.

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

I use Radiant Insignias because I enjoy have 80+ energy. If you guys are so stuck on energy management, then go Dual Attunements.

And I do have a high-energy set. But I take pride in my armor and weapons and I enjoy playing with them. Who wants to be running around with a Collector's wand for an extra 10 or so energy? Not me.

My Ele has close to 550hp with 14pts in Fire and almost 90 energy. This is the way that I prefer to play. I didn't post this build for critique--I already know that it's good. I posted it so you guys could try it out.

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
I didn't post this build for critique--I already know that it's good.

Initiate the lolcats

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
I use Radiant Insignias because I enjoy have 80+ energy. If you guys are so stuck on energy management, then go Dual Attunements.

And I do have a high-energy set. But I take pride in my armor and weapons and I enjoy playing with them. Who wants to be running around with a Collector's wand for an extra 10 or so energy? Not me.

My Ele has close to 550hp with 14pts in Fire and almost 90 energy. This is the way that I prefer to play. I didn't post this build for critique--I already know that it's good. I posted it so you guys could try it out. Uh huh... my ele has 83 energy with his 40/40 set and is running full survivors. I AM stuck on energy management and that is why I often use [Mind Blast].

I wouldn't use your build simply because it is over kill, also the AoE will cause a lot of scatter which really won't help at all. In other words, inneficient.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
I use Radiant Insignias because I enjoy have 80+ energy. If you guys are so stuck on energy management, then go Dual Attunements.
Radiant Insignias are bad, because they aren't beneficial to survivability. Survivor Insignias give health, and that's against armour ignoring damage, degen ect.
Survivability and emanagement > Radiant Insignias.

Quote: And I do have a high-energy set. But I take pride in my armor and weapons and I enjoy playing with them. Who wants to be running around with a Collector's wand for an extra 10 or so energy? Not me. What?
A high energy set is a dual +15/-1 wand/off-hand set, with HCT on the off-hand and HRT on the wand, using the +15/-1 inscription.

You have 4 weaponsets available for use.

Quote:
My Ele has close to 550hp with 14pts in Fire and almost 90 energy. This is the way that I prefer to play. I didn't post this build for critique--I already know that it's good. I posted it so you guys could try it out. If I want pure damage, I would go SF. And 580 -> 640 (Defensive set) is much stronger.

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

Eh, that's just how I like to play. Oh, try getting a group in Slavers' Exile with any other build besides Echoing Savannah Heat.... not going to happen.

And as for the High Energy Set, I do not like using Wands. I have 127 energy using my HES (High Energy Set) but I prefer using a staff. I'm one of those geeks that actually get into the game. I take on the whole Role Playing aspect of the game and I care about appearance, titles, etc. I do not PvP so I could careless about having the most energy and having 600+ HP.

I like playing the roll of a Nuker. 500+ HP with 85 energy doing over 700 damage in 10 seconds is the way to go.

Don't get me wrong, though, I do like using Fireball, Liquid Flame, Rodgort's Invocation, etc. But when I'm doing elite areas, I'd much rather nuke the shit out of stuff.

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
Eh, that's just how I like to play. Oh, try getting a group in Slavers' Exile with any other build besides Echoing Savannah Heat.... not going to happen.

And as for the High Energy Set, I do not like using Wands. I have 127 energy using my HES (High Energy Set) but I prefer using a staff. I'm one of those geeks that actually get into the game. I take on the whole Role Playing aspect of the game and I care about appearance, titles, etc. I do not PvP so I could careless about having the most energy and having 600+ HP.

I like playing the roll of a Nuker. 500+ HP with 85 energy doing over 700 damage in 10 seconds is the way to go.

Don't get me wrong, though, I do like using Fireball, Liquid Flame, Rodgort's Invocation, etc. But when I'm doing elite areas, I'd much rather nuke the shit out of stuff. Because people in slaver's exile are generally extremely dumb and only know how to run a certain build tailored to generating a certain scenario every time. As soon as the scenario changes, your build becomes utter shit.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

You just grabbed all the fire aoe spells and put them in one bar.

And I don't see a res

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

Outside of groups that do the tank / hold aggro / drop nukes, your build is garbage. This build is decent for wiping out balled up mobs that are focused on the tank every 30 seconds or so.

In general PvE and anywhere else, this build is garbage, and your equipment is baed.

ps. GoLE owns.

Tek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Thunder From Down Under [TfdU]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy
Outside of groups that do the tank / hold aggro / drop nukes, your build is garbage. This build is decent for wiping out balled up mobs that are focused on the tank every 30 seconds or so.

In general PvE and anywhere else, this build is garbage, and your equipment is baed.

ps. GoLE owns.
Have you tried this build? If not, then do not comment. Would you care to see the screen shots of me and four other people clearing the DoA with HEROS? Oh, and I was using this build and it totaled the Margonites, including Lord Jadoth and all of the Titans.

So unless you can prove accomplishments such as these, do not talk shit about builds that I post on here. Take your little Mind Blast builds into the DoA and see what happens.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Lying in your title is bad. Therefore, it must be fixed.

Title balance:
Thread: Changed thread title from "One of the best Nuker builds you'll ever use!" to "Mediocre nuker build"

Damn those PvPers always balancing those skills and titles we PvErs use!

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
So unless you can prove accomplishments such as these, do not talk shit about builds that I post on here. Take your little Mind Blast builds into the DoA and see what happens. You act like this is a big deal? There have been several hundred players that post on guru regularly that can do this. You're not breaking new ground here, You're not setting a new metagame or anything..

All you're doing is trying to defend yourself and your build from the truth, which is that outside of certain scenarios, your build and equipment is utter shit.

Any idiot with the right build can do anything PvE wise in this game, so please keep you "OMG IM SO GUD BEKAUS I CAN H/H DOA SO I MUST PWN DIS GAM3" comments to yourself. It only makes you look like more of a f*cktard.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
So unless you can prove accomplishments such as these, do not talk shit about builds that I post on here. P.S. If you want to talk about accomplishments, I have God walking amongst mere mortals. And all the statues for my hall of monuments. What do you have?

Moral of the story is: don't try to shittalk other people's accomplishments when you have no idea how qualified they are.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
So unless you can prove accomplishments such as these, do not talk shit about builds that I post on here. Take your little Mind Blast builds into the DoA and see what happens. cool you can do doa what do you want a f***ing cookie?

now ontopic sf nuker outplays your build any day. Plus everything will just run outta your aoe and like has been mentioned before you need some GoLE in there :P

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Damn those PvPers always balancing those skills and titles we PvErs use! ???


Anyway OP, I think your delusions of grandeur are extremely missplaced. You say you've found an effective build for slow trinity runs at best (holy trinity being tank aggros, nukers nuke, monks heal splash). Why you think a build being somewhat efective in that play format automaticly makes it good for general purpose is beyond me. But just know that I can't take my Obs Flesh Warrior,(which I can prove is quite effective in the elite PvE areas under the right team build) and expect to do well in a balanced team that doesn't rely on a useless stump like your slaver's build does.

short recap:
builds made with no flexability have no flexability. (gee imagine that)
no flexability=not a great build.
so, please, for all our sakes, don't confuse a nuker built to support (I'm gon go out on a limb here and quote Tyla) "degenerate" team play as a good all around ele build.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
Eh, that's just how I like to play. Oh, try getting a group in Slavers' Exile with any other build besides Echoing Savannah Heat.... not going to happen.
Yeah, PuGs hold far superior knowledge. I bet this build will be massive strong anywhere apart from TanknSpank.

Quote:
And as for the High Energy Set, I do not like using Wands. I have 127 energy using my HES (High Energy Set) but I prefer using a staff. I'm one of those geeks that actually get into the game. I take on the whole Role Playing aspect of the game and I care about appearance, titles, etc. I do not PvP so I could careless about having the most energy and having 600+ HP. Eh?
A high energy set is used for emergency problems when energy is running low.
And if you're going to use minor runes, you should be heading for survivability. If not, you might as well go superior runes.

I said it before and I'll say it again -- You have 4 weaponsets for a reason. It does NOT take a rocket scientist to click F1, F2, F3 or F4, or whatever your weaponsets are alligned to.

Quote:
I like playing the roll of a Nuker. 500+ HP with 85 energy doing over 700 damage in 10 seconds is the way to go. Your health and energy have no effect on the damage you're doing.
High energy set on switch ftw.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

This build is not so bad actually. But I have a slightly better one, just a little better.

[conjure flame][conjure frost][conjure lightning][gole][fire attunement][water attunement][air attunement][earth attunement]

remember to use a wand that deals earth damage

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

E/

I wonder if you realize who are the people you've accused of getting no accomplishments....

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek
Have you tried this build? If not, then do not comment. Would you care to see the screen shots of me and four other people clearing the DoA with HEROS? Oh, and I was using this build and it totaled the Margonites, including Lord Jadoth and all of the Titans.

So unless you can prove accomplishments such as these, do not talk shit about builds that I post on here. Take your little Mind Blast builds into the DoA and see what happens. OH MY GOD!

You beat a high-end PvE area with heroes!

I have tried this build actually for a DoA pug, like I said - it's "decent" for TankNSpank, but anywhere else - this build is garbage, TankNSpank is pretty mediocre anyway - Steam rolling mobs is better. Fo' shiz.

BRB 30 SECONDS WAITING FOR SKILLS TO RECHARGE

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
This build is not so bad actually. But I have a slightly better one, just a little better.

[conjure flame][conjure frost][conjure lightning][gole][fire attunement][water attunement][air attunement][earth attunement]

remember to use a wand that deals earth damage Needs more energy management. Request that you switch out GoLE for GoE. Also, for maximum damage, you should utilise either a holy damage or dark damage wand/staff, as no enemy can resist said damage.

Kendar Muert

Kendar Muert

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

E/

I like how he didn't even use the BBcode :P

He may be a bit presumptuous, and not all that bright, but lets cut him some slack, eh? He'll learn eventually.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[build][Elemental Attunement][Shock Arrow][Lightning Javelin][Flare][Lava Arrows][Ice Spear][Stone Daggers][Resurrection Signet][/build]

TAKE YOUR LITTLE MIND BLAST BUILDS INTO THE DOA AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

E/

Nonono Glyph Of Swiftness For Better Interrupt On Lightling Javelin!!!!

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

I always thought eles needed more armor.
[skill]armor of earth[/skill][skill]kinetic armor[/skill][skill]sliver armor[/skill][skill]armor of frost[/skill][skill]armor of mist[/skill][skill]frigid armor[/skill][skill]water attunement[/skill][skill]earth attunement[/skill]

I herd elemental attunement wuz good
[skill]mark of rodgort[/skill][skill]flare[/skill][skill]steam[/skill][skill]slippery ground[/skill][skill]earthen shackles[/skill][skill]glowing gaze[/skill][skill]stone striker[/skill][skill]elemental attunement[/skill]
epic combo is epic.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

As cute as this dog is, I think he failed.