Assassin Or Warrior?

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Toxage
Krytan Explorer
#1
I am trying to decide on a melee character.

What class does better in PvE?

Warriors seem like a damage powerhouse --> Flail, Conjure, Save Yourselves, Dragon Flash, For Great Justice...

Assassins seem to cooler abilities though I.E shadowsteps! I don't know much about assassins, but a quick glance over the assassin forums seems to suggest that MS/DB is the best combo but I have no experience with that.
llsektorll
llsektorll
Desert Nomad
#2
for meta pve versitility and shear power... please be A/X if you don't believe me let me guide you to this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ost&t=10280755

btw warrior dps is not greater than A/D who crits on every hit. The base damage for crit on scythe is 70dmg. They also get enchants that recharge on every crit. The build may look like this.... I rick-rolled factions up to House Zu Heltzer at lvl 17 without dieing.

[Farmer's Scythe][Mystic Sweep][Critical Defenses][critical agility][Critical Eye][Way of the Assassin][Way of the Master][resurrection signet]
TalanRoarer
TalanRoarer
Krytan Explorer
#3
well my advice is go for warrior,
as unless you can sin very well, and people know it..
your not gonna get a decent party as A/x..
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#4
Warriors.
Dragon Slash, perma SY with Dragon Slash, best IAS's in the game, strong inherant armour, strong utility, perma-KD with Dragon Slash.

@Sektor -- Take away the Enchants. And 70DPS isn't as good as Dragon Slash DPS along with the perma-kd and the SY.
Shadowmere
Shadowmere
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
if this is your first time playing a melee profession I'd recommend going with warrior, the high armor and lack of dependence on attack chains means it'll be much much more forgiving to learn to play.

Assassin was the last of the 3 melee professions I made, and I must say if I didn't have previous experience with the other melee professions it would've been much harder to get the hang of assassins for me.
llsektorll
llsektorll
Desert Nomad
#6
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Originally Posted by BenC777
well my advice is go for warrior,
as unless you can sin very well, and people know it..
your not gonna get a decent party as A/x..
i kick warriors and take sins... atleast sins have a brain.... wammos just leeroy

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Originally Posted by Tyla
Warriors.
Dragon Slash, perma SY with Dragon Slash, best IAS's in the game, strong inherant armour, strong utility, perma-KD with Dragon Slash.

@Sektor -- Take away the Enchants. And 70DPS isn't as good as Dragon Slash DPS along with the perma-kd and the SY.
We are talking about PvE here why would you perma KD in PvE?... lol?

warrior in pve is bad.... all they good for now is maintaining ursan... even then it sucks... Derv > Ranger > Assassin > Paragon > Warrior.... if you are talking about physical dmg imo....
Chaos Rofl Copter
Chaos Rofl Copter
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
i kick warriors and take sins... atleast sins have a brain.... wammos just leeroy


We are talking about PvE here why would you perma KD in PvE?... lol?

warrior in pve is bad.... all they good for now is maintaining ursan... even then it sucks... Derv > Ranger > Assassin > Paragon > Warrior.... if you are talking about physical dmg imo....
secktor is right, if its pve, you just wanna kill fast(go with the sin). and with heroes you can tank like everything with sins because you can bring prots and control their uses to stay alive, etc.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#8
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Let's change that order to War > Sin = Derv > paragon > ranger.

+100 armor on party = good

perma knockdown on ele bosses = good

highest dps = good.
dicecube
dicecube
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
I agree, go with sin. My guild held the myth that assassins were squishy front line characters that would get pummeled. So I barely could use my sin on guild runs, and rerolled a necro hesitantly. Ive been playing on my necro for 6 months or so but eventually got very bored of him. So I started playing on my sin again, was lazy to switch chars and brought my sin to ToA. We cleared UW really fast. Now they request that I bring my sin so the rits could cast splinter on me, place MoP/barbs on enemies for awesome nukes combined with the fast assassin attacks = win. Even faster with critical agility =) Added on top of MS/DB spam. Just let the terra tank or 600 monk hold onto agro before engaging and you're set! I recently maxed my SS so it gives me +25 defense if anything, not like I need it at all.
Flawless Predator
Flawless Predator
Academy Page
#10
llsektorll nice build might make A/X myself xD
Shai Lee
Shai Lee
Krytan Explorer
#11
You'll find that we all have our opinions for/against certain professions. It just matters what you enjoy playing. I'd say play both and decide which you like best from there.
shoyon456
shoyon456
Desert Nomad
#12
Id have to say damagewise, dervs win.

And dont even try that A/D stuff, its a perversion of dervs that needs a nerf :P

But hey, looks like there's too much bias here for me to squeeze mine in. But dervs are more versatile than warriors, and more "sturdy" than sins.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#13
sins > wars
lots o' unblockable AoE DPS ftw
perma IAS, AL boost, and block ftw
they look better too :3
+1 lolol
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Nightmares Hammer
Krytan Explorer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
i kick warriors and take sins... atleast sins have a brain.... wammos just leeroy


We are talking about PvE here why would you perma KD in PvE?... lol?

warrior in pve is bad.... all they good for now is maintaining ursan... even then it sucks... Derv > Ranger > Assassin > Paragon > Warrior.... if you are talking about physical dmg imo....
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
Guild: Team Everfrost
Irony... FTW.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#15
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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer
Irony... FTW.
lololololol sooo true.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#16
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
+100 armor on party = good
sins can use SY! too
and with no hindrance to their main offense

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perma knockdown on ele bosses = good
[club of a thousand bears]
[moebius strike] recharges it ;3

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highest dps = good.
[moebius strike][death blossom][critical agility]
taking AoE DPS into consideration too, this is better
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#17
Won't help when SY draws all the attention onto yourself and gets your wimpy armor spiked to oblivion. A warrior is capable of soo much more armor.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#18
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Originally Posted by angmar_nite
Won't help when SY draws all the attention onto yourself and gets your wimpy armor spiked to oblivion. A warrior is capable of soo much more armor.
[critical agility],[critical defenses], and I herd monks wer gud
Faer
Faer
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
#19
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
btw warrior dps is not greater than A/D who crits on every hit.
This is misinformation and I highly encourage that it be disregarded as such. The A/D builds are much more prone to being shut down than any good Warrior build will ever be, and therefore provide much lower reliable DPS than a Warrior.

Assassins are nifty when played well. They are not, by any means, a replacement for a Warrior.

Incidentally, has eF been selling more invites?
fenix
fenix
Major-General Awesome
#20
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Warriors.
Dragon Slash, perma SY with Dragon Slash, best IAS's in the game, strong inherant armour, strong utility, perma-KD with Dragon Slash.

@Sektor -- Take away the Enchants. And 70DPS isn't as good as Dragon Slash DPS along with the perma-kd and the SY.
uh...did I miss a meeting or something? Perma-KD with Dslash? What?

To the OP;

Warrior is the best DPS class. Further more, has the highest Armor Level. FURTHER MORE, is the possibly best class for spamming SY (arguably) as the Warrior is adrenaline based. But after all that, it comes down to 1 thing.

Frenzy.

If you have SY spam, you can frenzy as much as you like, as Prot Spirit stops damage, and the monks will focus on you, because the rest of the team will have +100al.


Sins are bad, because they suffer FAR too badly if there is any blind or enchant removal. Dervs are bad because they almost rely on a Form, but have low AL anyway. They can be very handy, but War is still better. Paragons are okay, but you would want a couple of them for them for effectiveness.