more dmg from a dervish?

OctANE

OctANE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Haze of Purple Mist

R/Rt

i was just analyzing some dervish skills and just wandered how much more dmg can u get from a combination of Avatar of Lyssa, Aura of Holy Might and lil' push from Heart of Fury. i was just going to try it but i was thinking if the avatar will negate the holy dmg from the Alleg skill and if u have an opinion of it can u say a good build for the dervish for more dmg?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Avatar of Lyssa doesn't state it changes damage to any type, so there's no reason it would negate the holy damage.

As for a build, you're pretty much on track with Lyssa. Put the skills you have there with [skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill], [skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill] and [skill]Protector's strike[/skill] - time them on skill activations and the damage will be huge.

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

Wearying Strike is a good skill to bring too. It gives you weakness but it'd probably get quickly removed and it'll give your target Deep Wound.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Generally, you use that with AoM. I'd be more inclined to recommend Pious Assault if you want DW on a Lyssa build. (Yes, it does strip enchantments - so use it after Eternal Aura or something.)

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

with AoL and AoHM most of your swings in PvE will do above 100 damage. hits above 200 are not uncommon and Ive hit for 370 on a few undead.

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Generally, you use that with AoM. I'd be more inclined to recommend Pious Assault if you want DW on a Lyssa build. (Yes, it does strip enchantments - so use it after Eternal Aura or something.) Oh I was thinking of putting the skill on a hero bar so I didn't think about using Eternal Aura.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistokibbles
Oh I was thinking of putting the skill on a hero bar so I didn't think about using Eternal Aura. on a hero build you obviously dont use an avatar.

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Derv heroes are generally bad except the D/N order thingy

OctANE

OctANE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Haze of Purple Mist

R/Rt

ty for the ideas...atm i'm working with just AoB, Eternal Aura and Heart of Fury and after i've reached the first rank in alleg and got the skill i was wondering if i can get more dmg...because of the huge dmg from just AoB i finished Factions (doin just the primary quests and miss and doin some quest to help me get from lvl16 to 20) in just 8 hours...i'm thinking of getting more dmg...maybe i'll finish eotn in 10 hours :|

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
because of the huge dmg from just AoB ...You mean AoL now right...? AoB is crap

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OctANE
i was just analyzing some dervish skills and just wandered how much more dmg can u get from a combination of Avatar of Lyssa
, Aura of Holy Might and lil' push from Heart of Fury. i was just going to try it but i was thinking if the avatar will negate the holy dmg from the Alleg skill and if u have an opinion of it can u say a good build for the dervish for more dmg?
Those three skills are very commonly used in AoL builds.

It's tried and tested.

Don't forget [[Eternal Aura]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blurmedia
AoB is crap AoB is better than it was, but still not better than AoL. Still, it's a little better than "crap" these days.

OctANE

OctANE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Haze of Purple Mist

R/Rt

looks like u guys have something against AoB , i loved AoB cus of the armor u can be the tanker (in nm) and kept me alive for a long time...dont worry i never forget Eternal Aura when i have an avatar (sacred rule)...

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
AoB is better than it was No buff or update comes to mind. Just what made it better?
I see dan viewing the thread so I'll leave it to him to explain OP why tanking is bad etc etc etc

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by blurmedia
No buff or update comes to mind. Just what made it better? [[Pious Assault] did.
Though it's still utter shit in PvE.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

[skill]Radiant Scythe[/skill] is good on a Lyssa build.
You might as well use that extra high energy you get from [Avatar of Lyssa] for something ;-).

phan

phan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

phantasmagoria

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
with AoL and AoHM most of your swings in PvE will do above 100 damage. hits above 200 are not uncommon and Ive hit for 370 on a few undead. ss or it didn't happen

kev read

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Celestial Twilight [CT]

D/

My favorite is strength of honor + judge's insight...

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by phan
ss or it didn't happen How about you try it yourself. Lyssa's crazy dps is common knowledge. That's what i thought at least.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by phan
ss or it didn't happen its really not that complicated of a situation, feel free to try it yourself, but i dont need to prove it to you

XDeadboltX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
with AoL and AoHM most of your swings in PvE will do above 100 damage. hits above 200 are not uncommon and Ive hit for 370 on a few undead. Yep I can agree to this. In fow most hits were 100-150, and undead definately 300+, it was one of the most fun things Iv ever done on the game.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

If you really want to see big damage numbers take VoS, AoHM, IATS, EVSOH to the delesio seaboard mission and wack some of the bone minions there. I was critting (which you should get every time) for over 800 (with r6 in all the pve ranks).

Tender Care

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

MpF

P/

A nice build for pve for dervish/monk i used to farm is a smiting build:

[vital boon] [mystic regeneration] [signet of mystic wrath] [retribution] [Strength of Honor] [Balthazar's spirit] [mystic sweep] [Reaper's sweep]

looks a bit complicated to use but it's not, just make sure u don't run off with energy and it's done!