Hell's Precipice

NastyDevil

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Acid Snakes [TAS]

R/Rt

Heya guys! If been trying to complete Hell's Precipice for a month now. I've been trying it for allmost once a day but still i fail it every single time! Please guys help! What Heroes/Henchmen should i bring and what builds to use?
I can get everytime to the Portal Wraits but then: BOOOM! And in a sec the full team is dead . This is really annoying. Make it 10k to the guy that helps me get the right builds and heroes/henchmen!

P.S. If your gona post messages like "This mission was sooo easy" or "Are you a noob coz you cant pass the mission" leave them.

Thanks!

The Nasty Devil

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Before you start discussing builds, did you make sure that you're not over-aggroing? In the plain where the 3 portals are, there are plenty of monsters that you should clear before killing the portal wraith (which is very easy to do). To do that, you simply pull them one after the other, but beware of patrols walking in the plain and monsters spawning in the lava lake nearby (where the 3 titans are if you're going for the bonus).

If this is not the problem, what profession are you playing?

Nicolas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Me

Time the patrol and destroy the portals after they leave, tackling only the Portal Wraiths.
Lure the patrol and engage it. Then destroy the portals at your leisure.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hell..._%28Mission%29

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

pull with a bow all the patrols and kill em one by one by the place you enter the more bowl shaped wraith area. Then camp at the lava poll and kill all that spawn. Then just simple do the portals start from left to right to manimize time.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

If you want help, let me know.

Add me to friends: Dargoth Alfazul.

My Dervish needs this mission too.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Grab a long / flatbow, flag your henchies back, pull the things that spawn.

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

Make this mission much easier pulling will. Mmm, yes.

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

if you're having so much trouble go with a PuG
can't believe I actually recommended this but you seem to have difficulties using H&Hway.

but if you wanna stick to H&H the most important thing is to know how to control your heroes. that means maximizing the usage of the 3 different stances(aggressive, guard, passive) as well as flags(for each hero and for all).

as for your H&H choice, it depends on your own profession. you will want a high damage build to handle all the breakdowns of the titans. AoE will greatly help you along with some distruption, especially for the Sparks.
here is my recommended H&H team for Hell's Precipice:
Heroes:
2 Ele nukers, I find heroes are best at using the Savannah Heat version but use whichever suits you best.
1 Ranger, mainly an interrupter build with Concussion Shot to add daze.
Henchmen:
2 both Warriors
2 Monks

of course you are interchangable with any of the H&H in here, in which case you should make minor adjustments, say you're playing Monk than you drop 1 Monk hench for another ele.

remember to lock your Ranger hero onto a priority caster(monks and eles) to completely shut them down while the rest handle the smaller threats.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bpphantom
Make this mission much easier pulling will. Mmm, yes. Yes, to Yoda listen must we.

Seriously, good pulling makes this mission pretty easy,
especially near the portals. Follow the bits of advice above regarding pulling small groups first, then dealing with the patrols. You can hit the wraiths between patrols or just save them for last.

NastyDevil

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Acid Snakes [TAS]

R/Rt

Thanks for the advise guys! Will the titans that are coming out of the lava never stop coming?

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

^They will eventually stop. Just keep on pullin'.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

The titans stop coming out once all the bosses come out. Sadly, they come out from time to time, but the hands/fists come out in droves.

arual

arual

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

It can seem to take a while though! Patience helps alot, especially when watching patrols, quite often multiple mobs patrol an area your likely to fight in which either results in a drawn out fight, or usually in HM a party wipe.

As for things to help to you out considering using a +10ar vs. fire inscription or just any skills that are affective against fire/burning. Extinguish, Mantra of Flame (not Elemental Resistance) and Breath of the Great Dwarf might help out quite a bit. I've never used these ones but they might help: Spotless Soul & Avatar of Melandru. Perhaps try Frigid Armor as well although I find that you spend too long re-casting it all the time.

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mallyx's pimped out Crib

Mo/A

hmm i did this Easy with My Ranger (Heroes and Henchies too)

its not too hard

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Don't forget to bring winter on your hero ranger just clear all the titans away.i find this easier that getting there first past the Imps with MS.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

You don't need to pull every one of the patrols. There are some you can skip so long as you can kill the wraiths in a certain time limit and make effective pulls.

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

I had trouble with this initialy, but it always was an agro issue.

A tip is to pick off a few titans at a time once you get to the large area with the portals, then when you cut down the titans roaming around, hug the wall on the left, and head to the first portal, then hug the walls as you pick them off. Once you get rid of the third portal wraith, you're reportedly elsewhere anyway, so you don't have to kill them all. That won't get you the bonus, but that will get you to the end.

Also, becareful how you attack. Targets in order of importance Sparks > Hand/Fists > Burning > Risen Ash. This limits or reduces the number of combatants the most. The Risen Ashes are fairly harmless beyond enchantment removal anyway.

I would suggest, if you can spare a skill slot, going /Me and getting [mantra of flame] helps a lot. Mitigates a lot of damage and helps with energy. Someone with Extinguish is nice too, because of all the burning (if you have Factions).

NastyDevil

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Acid Snakes [TAS]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan The Necrotic
hmm i did this Easy with My Ranger (Heroes and Henchies too)

its not too hard Just that kinda comments i dont need -.-

Team Ramrod

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Here]

I would suggest just watching your aggro for the most part. Also, I take 2 necro healers, and a water ele, both monk, mage and war hench . 1 necro/rit healer, SS necro with cry of frustration and any other interupt, both of these builds are on pvxwiki I think, water ele has ward against harm, make sure your heroes/hench stay in it and some other water spells, and the interupts metioned before.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

My Dervish did it last night. I was in a PUG with:

2 Warriors, 1 Necro, 1 Ele, me, 1 Ranger and 2 hero monks.

No winter was used.

Our ranger pulled very well in the area with the portals.

The only real trouble we had was the Lich himself. Somehow, we had a near party wipe after killing him twice. My hero monk rezed us all and we took him down with much ease.

You can pull yourself, you don't need a flat bow or long bow (but it does help). The problems will be when you face Rurik. Hands, Fists and sparks.

Some party moral boosters may help too.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick Me
The problems will be when you face Rurik. Hands, Fists and sparks. Yeah, that's the most dangerous part of the mission. The trick there is to let the cutscene play in full (as Wiki advises) and snag the near group of Fists immediately after. Things are much easier after that.

Valerius

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

doh I just did this mission a few minutes ago, with a team of henchies too... would have invited you had I read this thread prior lol, sorry -_-

but yeah, just make sure you pull small mobs bit by bit, not just one large group lol. also, if your a Ranger like me, GC + Winter helps a lot

Valerius

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

i'm sure you won't have any trouble finding a group for this mission now... lol

NastyDevil

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Acid Snakes [TAS]

R/Rt

Lol yeah Luckbot on <33

Introverted Dimensions

Introverted Dimensions

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Did it on HM last night

Ghost Of Sir Craig

Ghost Of Sir Craig

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by name removed
hmm i did this Easy with My Ranger (Heroes and Henchies too)

its not too hard This is always my favorite kind of answer to these sincere requests for advice and help. What is the guy trying to tell us? What is his advice? Is it... (choose one):

1. Delete your character and create a Ranger.
2. Give up, only an incredible player such as myself can complete this mission.
3. Contact a player named "My Ranger" and have him take you through.
4. "I had some advice, but I lost interest and forgot what it was after I said that it was not too hard, and I posted my introduction to the subject anyway"
5. This mission can be easily completed with nothing more than a Ranger, heroes, and henchies.
6. "I was going to write a few more paragraphs of suggestions, but my mom called me for dinner"
7. "Just in case you didn't know it, Im great"

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Rangers can daze and blind; bring those, and apply them to the proper target to win. I'm assuming you play Ranger from your profile. Maybe something like this:
[Broad Head Arrow][Epidemic][Volley][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Throw Dirt] + 2 more, like [Natural Stride][Resurrection Signet]

Above build is a bit overkill on shutdown, to be honest.

edit: [[Winter] is a waste of a slot; it has been bugged for months. It only converts damage to cold AFTER calculating the damage vs. armor, so it won't have any useful effect on Titans.
[[Conflagration] and [[Greater Conflagration] + [[Winter] are especially bad, as they will change damage to fire, the damage will be calculated with the Titans increased armor vs. Fire, and only then will the damage be converted to cold.

Larcen

Larcen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Southern Maryland

Midnight Oasis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Of Sir Craig
This is always my favorite kind of answer to these sincere requests for advice and help. What is the guy trying to tell us? What is his advice? Is it... (choose one):

1. Delete your character and create a Ranger.
2. Give up, only an incredible player such as myself can complete this mission.
3. Contact a player named "My Ranger" and have him take you through.
4. "I had some advice, but I lost interest and forgot what it was after I said that it was not too hard, and I posted my introduction to the subject anyway"
5. This mission can be easily completed with nothing more than a Ranger, heroes, and henchies.
6. "I was going to write a few more paragraphs of suggestions, but my mom called me for dinner"
7. "Just in case you didn't know it, Im great" *Jumps up and down* Oh! Oh! I know, pick me! Pick me! Is it.. Six?

In all seriousness, patience is the best attribute to have points in where this mission is concerned. The only time you need rush, is when the Seer is about to get slaughtered by the occasional bad spawn of the Titan too close to it.

If, however, you still require aid, simply ask for it.

IGN: Beast Creed

Belonah15

Belonah15

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

When you get to the portal area, the spawns will move down towards the portals. Be patient and watch the large patrolling group. When they near the left portal run across the area to the uphill - it makes a corridor where you can pull and kill. I also find it easier to close the portals from right to left, probably because its easier to pull mobs from the hill.

The biggest threats are the Sparks (interrupt their spells) and Hands/Fists. Kill those first where possible. Cold damage and/or Blind works well on most mobs if you take Elementalists (Fire damage is not very effective in this mission).

I recommend taking 2 Hero Hybrid (Heal & Prot) Monks setup as Mo/E with [Frigid Armor] or Mo/Me with [Mantra of Flame].

Mark Nevermiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

I H/H Hell's Precipice twice yesterday: once on my warrior and once on my ranger (after a failed PUG).

My warrior: uses sentinel armor and armor of the great dwarf for high elemental resistance. I would flag my H/H slightly behind and aggro the sparks of the titan, take most of the initial damage and then charge and release the H/H flag at the same time.

I used Tahlkora [WoH healer] Acolyte Jin [Interrupt Ranger] and Master of Whispers [SS] , Mhenlo, Lina, Cynn and Eve.

Used an IDS and +10 vs fire shield.

At the portals I used a long bow to pull patrols and then once portal has only wraiths I charged, not that it mattered much because I goofed at Rurik and aggroed the 2 groups of hands of the titan and still didnt have any trouble dealing with them.

With my Ranger I used Punishing Shot, Distracting Shot, Read the Wind, Dust Trap [great against melee], pain inverter, troll unguent, breath of the great dwarf
Used Tahlkora (WoH healer), GWEN (inspiration/domination : interrupt with empathy), and Master of Whispers as SS
Same Hench as Warrior. With careful pulling it was easy, and yeah Dust Trap was superb. Gwen managed to interrupt the mesmer boss's Cry of Frustration . My PC crashed while fighting the Lich and I logged back seconds before my H/H killed him

Btw you can pull Rurik and the Sparks away from the Hands and once Rurik killed --> Cut scene ---> dont have to deal with the hands.

Rothen Kithkanan

Rothen Kithkanan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Between a rock and a hard place

Pah, who needs guilds?

E/

I might be wrong (no comments please) but i think you only need to kill rurik and the sparks to trigger the cutscene at that point. The fists will die automatically. Therefore, try to pull them off the ledge back to the path where you spawn and take them out that way

edit.... should have read the post abot me in full before answering

Stuart444

Stuart444

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Alexandria, Scotland

The Charter Vanguard [CV]

W/

me and my girlfriend have about four missions to do before doing HP (the fifth and final mission being this one)

I hope it's as easy as everyone is making it out to be <_<

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I won't say it's an easy mission but it's very doable when you know the basics.
Watch aggro, don't run into sparcs without protection and remember that the necro titans will break up into two warriors. Killing the necros too fast will give you a hard time. The bonus guy is somewhat hard to safe if you are not prepared or rush when you get a bad spawn. But that's more a hard mode problem. Try to balance your team against fire ele (spike) and warriors, those give most problems for many players.

That's about it, just keep steady pace and don't rush.

Trinity Blade

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Netherlands

The Guild With No [NAM???]

E/Mo

Sorry for kinda going offtopic, but the rewards for completing this mission; that you get a medallion which you can trade in for awesome end-game weapons, do they be the same even AFTER the 3rd year [suckey english]anneversiry[/suckey english]?

Kelven Novahart

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

With no points in water, I've found that just one cast of Malestrom was enough to shut down every group of sparks that I encountered. Convientently enough when they stop to cast MB they're already in a nice little bunch and will just stay there and attempt to cast MB over and over till they're dead. 8) Also pulling and flagging skills are needed to make this Mish.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

bah NM hells precipice is a walk in the park....

[ursan blessing] = GG .... you can follow the pve strategy of kill them before they kill you... o yea remember to bring [rebirth]

Scown-dog

Scown-dog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada-nuff said

Peace Machine Grrr [DiE]-with Kanwulf until I feel the boot

W/N

Last night I H/Hed the mis+bonus with me as a ursan warrior and sabway. Longbow is very ftw

Tawnee Em

Tawnee Em

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Society of The Archane

E/Me

I've helped several of my guildies with this mission, tons of good advice here. Especially the pulling. One thing that works great for me that I didn't see mentioned, if you have EotN, get/use Pain Inverter. I'm a SH nuker and PI helps alot. If you still need help after this weekend's birthday event, look me up, I'll be more than happy to help!!! Especially now that we can get a new green for beating it lol. Happy Hunting!!

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Of Sir Craig
This is always my favorite kind of answer to these sincere requests for advice and help. What is the guy trying to tell us? What is his advice? Is it... (choose one):

1. Delete your character and create a Ranger.
2. Give up, only an incredible player such as myself can complete this mission.
3. Contact a player named "My Ranger" and have him take you through.
4. "I had some advice, but I lost interest and forgot what it was after I said that it was not too hard, and I posted my introduction to the subject anyway"
5. This mission can be easily completed with nothing more than a Ranger, heroes, and henchies.
6. "I was going to write a few more paragraphs of suggestions, but my mom called me for dinner"
7. "Just in case you didn't know it, Im great" That made my week lol.

But any how, what i usually did was when the titans would span out from the lava I would kill them there. So they wouldn't join the other grps and make a bigger mod. And try to lure the monsters away from the portals and wraiths. Also I'd take at least 3 monks just in case, if your not that good yet its better to have an extra.

canto

canto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Bay Area, California "WEST SIDE!"

Archangels of Tormented Minds

E/Mo

I just did it with my guild. We had:

1.War r10 Ursan
2.Mesmer r10 Ursan
3.Nuker (me)
4. Ranger with Winter
5. Spirit spam Rit
6-8. N/mes hero healers.

walk in the park