A/P Way of the assassin

JayH

JayH

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

England

[EviL]

Mo/Me

Hey, i dont know if this build has been posted around before, but iv been tweaking some parts of a A/P build i found, and this seems to work pretty well.

Iv used it in Hero battles, 3 A/P one N/Mo healer with [rigor mortis]. It worked well in there, and it also is fun to play in AB.

Have not yet tried in PvE, but it may work, although ench removal will cripple this build. Iv only used it playing with a healer, dont think it will work anywhere on your own(without monks), magic will crush it.

Knowing these weakness's, im just wondering if you have any comments about the build, ways to improve it maybe.

I can pretty much keep energy up all the time, and the blocks from crit defenses keeps most melee off me, as i have about 80% chance + to critical.

[swift javelin][spear of lightning][vicious attack][way of the assassin][way of the master][critical defenses] [critical eye][shadow refuge]

attributes
6 shadow arts
+1 +3 11 critical strikes
12 spear mastery

armor + 10 while in enchantment
armor + 10 while in stance
health +50
rest mix of +e and +hp runes etc

hand
spear with 20/20
ench 20% longer
15% - 50%hp

offhand
strength shield
health +45hp stance
armor +10 vs fire

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sup runes are bad, Spear would be best as 15^50 Vamp +30hp, 20/20 on switch for spiking with.

Change to staves if you want to precast for the enchantment times.

Shadow Refuge is bad, and the bar lacks Vicious Attack.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

i use something similar but i don't use shadow refuge and it's an AB variant
but i actually also use [blazing spear] and [barbed spear] for a cover condition

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

...looks awfully familiar.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=453579

JayH

JayH

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

England

[EviL]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Shadow Refuge is bad, and the bar lacks Vicious Attack. Check the 3rd skill

And also, it was placed there for a cover heal, as there isn't many decent sin self heals nowadays.

Ill test out with suggestions posted here, i might take a cover condition skill instead of shadow refuge for Hero Battles, i shall have to see.

@ Nightow

Yeah, i thought i wouldnt be the first to post something like this.

graverobber2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Order of the Flameseekers [NL]

W/

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:The..._to_critic al
way of the master is more than enough
just take another elite

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

way of the assassin is overkill. your missing critical agility. shadow refuge is bad and superior runes are worse. oh, and sundering is bad, and its even worse on weapons with a low damage range like the spear.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
oh, and sundering is bad, and its even worse on weapons with a low damage range like the spear. I agree on the sundering being bad (Except on spikes), but Spears have a stupid damage range.

An Saighead Is Gear

An Saighead Is Gear

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Ireland

Push The Button [BOOM]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
your missing critical agility. JayH said that he uses this build in pvp and Critical Agility is a pve skill.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

IMO, (for PvE) switch out
[critical defenses] for [Critical Agility]
[Shadow Refuge] for [Way of Perfection]
[Way of the Master] or [Critical Eye] for [Resurrection Signet]

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

The superior rune is doing nothing for you. CritStrikes hits its breakpoint at 13, that extra rune boost is merely wasting 75 health.

Also, get a decent elite - Master and CritEye are already giving you good crit %, take something like [dark apostasy] so you can do something useful with those crits.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

stormlord can you post your dark aposty spear sin?

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

ehm, Im sorry but why spears?

~Super Igor ~

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
ehm, Im sorry but why spears?

~Super Igor ~ because they have range, and some people like mixing it up every now and again

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Range, high DPS when used correctly along with good spike potential.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
stormlord can you post your dark aposty spear sin? Sure... Little defense and healing on mine because that's what I gots monks for. [[Assassin's remedy] could be used over the RemSig, I just like teh yellow.
[build prof=A/P name="CritSpear" box spear=12 crit=12+1+1 desc="Weapon 1: Vamp spear{br}Weapon 2: Non-vamp spear"][swift javelin][wild throw][vicious attack][dark apostasy][remedy signet][way of the master][critical eye][resurrection signet][/build]

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

ok thanks.

i wanted to run it pve a little while ago. dunno why though but it sounded like a fun build

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

A very good combo for assassin would be to combine Wearying strike+Assassin's Remedy.Vicious strike also guarantees a near 100% deep wound.

RiceCream

RiceCream

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Savannah, GA

[MH]

i played with a similar build (almost exactly the same) build in RA after the release of EotN, used:

[vicious attack][spear of lightning][disrupting throw][Way of the Assassin][Way of the master][critical defenses][critical eye][resurrection signet]

100%+ crit rate provides big damage, vicious's deep wound = disrupting fodder etc. fun fun

Krill

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

Another decent choice for an elite with critical spear is Sleeping Wound:

[build=Critical Spear;OwliMylMBk9gFkpAtIOAFvJAAA]

I used to play it some in RA and it does decent damage, just a lot of boring button mashing though. Wound is a -4 hex @ 12+1+1 that's cheap and repeatable.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by arienrhode
decent . . . Sleeping Wound ill let you figure out whats wrong with this statement

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by arienrhode
[Sleeping Wound] I lol'd
never use seeping wound, ever

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

elite 5 degen is bad... non-elite 5 degen is bad