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Trouveur

Trouveur

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Les Protecteurs du Lion

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
Yuk..... the stats on the staff is Horrible.
Actually they are pretty good.

+60 HP is always good, as the 20% recharge time.

That is probably the best stats for a caster staff.

xshadowwolfx

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

Mo/

except you don't really need HP all that much in PvE i find %enchant, fast casts/recharge, +energy to be more useful...but yea +60 hp is nice and nothing to complain about.

Plus theres always the customizable golds.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Well, the +HP is nice for [Grenth's Balance] builds.

Trouveur

Trouveur

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Les Protecteurs du Lion

Me/R

When you do HM and elite areas you realize HP is far more important than energy (with good energy management you don't need a high energy pool), +20% enchantment is nice for some casters but not all of them (not really useful for a mesmer by example), as for recharge this staff does have 20%.

Casting time is again nice for some casters, but useless for others (mesmer already have fast cast attribute, ritualist mainly use non spell skills, etc...).

I understand that some mods seem better for some casters, but nonetheless this staff have no useless mod.

Um Yeah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Illusions of Grandeur [Illu]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trouveur
When you do HM and elite areas you realize HP is far more important than energy (with good energy management you don't need a high energy pool), +20% enchantment is nice for some casters but not all of them (not really useful for a mesmer by example), as for recharge this staff does have 20%.

Casting time is again nice for some casters, but useless for others (mesmer already have fast cast attribute, ritualist mainly use non spell skills, etc...).

I understand that some mods seem better for some casters, but nonetheless this staff have no useless mod.
The only staff worth having on any caster is a 40% hct, 20% enchants, and obviously that's only useful if you're using an enchantment. If you aren't using any enchants, then you really don't have any business using a staff anyway...

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

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i don't know about you guys, but i put my vote on the daggers for most beast!

xshadowwolfx

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

Mo/

I would say sword or hammer, but anyone notice how awesome the focus is? Its a freaking beer mug!

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
I love the look of the new endgame weapons.
Hopefully their mods are a little more..."viable", 20/20 sundering on a sword and -5/20% shield mods make me QQ.
Hehe guess what the mods on those green weapons are? hahah, but, the consolation is you can buy the same skins from an npc merchant there for 10 deldrimor steel ingots + 10 steel ingots + 10k (around 20k depending on prices of deldrimor steel ingots) that is blank but inscribeable. So you can make your own type of weapon out of the skins you like. So, sell your talisman for like 10k and then get an additional 10k and you can get what you want but will still have to mod it.

Mini Masher

Mini Masher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

[pink]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Very cool, I'm going to be logging on for this.
Still waiting...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trouveur
Actually they are pretty good.

+60 HP is always good, as the 20% recharge time.

That is probably the best stats for a caster staff.
Staves should be: Double HCT, 20% HRT (All spells), 20% enchantments.

If you want more health, switch to a shield set.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Um Yeah
The only staff worth having on any caster is a 40% hct, 20% enchants, and obviously that's only useful if you're using an enchantment. If you aren't using any enchants, then you really don't have any business using a staff anyway...
It is not the only one, becouse I could say another good example/situation for using a staff: 40(primary attribute)/20(all)/+30hp for casters using spells from different attibutes.

Trouveur

Trouveur

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Les Protecteurs du Lion

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Staves should be: Double HCT, 20% HRT (All spells), 20% enchantments.

If you want more health, switch to a shield set.
And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?

HP is more important that double HCT, even for necro or monk.

As for the shield set, last time I shecked it didn't provide +5 energy or 20% HRT.

Why choose between +60 HP and energy/20% HRT, when you can have both ?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trouveur
And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?

HP is more important that double HCT, even for necro or monk.

As for the shield set, last time I shecked it didn't provide +5 energy or 20% HRT.

Why choose between +60 HP and energy/20% HRT, when you can have both ?
There are 4 weaponsets.
And for some casters (Necros, Mesmers, Eles, Rits), 40/40 sets are better, staves are better for enchant based builds, but offer 20%HRT on all spells.

And for Monks, you need both.

And yeah, shield sets provide you with +5E.
Martial weapon (+5E, +30hp), shield (10AL vs *type*, +30hp).

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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Or craft the gold version if ya really love the skin? It doesn't cost that much more. Sell the talisman for 9-10k, pay another 10k from your own pocket, get the clean staff. Mod it anyway you like for another 10-20k.

There you go, a totally customized staff for ya. You can even make it 33%/12% if you want

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
Or craft the gold version if ya really love the skin? It doesn't cost that much more. Sell the talisman for 9-10k, pay another 10k from your own pocket, get the clean staff. Mod it anyway you like for another 10-20k.

There you go, a totally customized staff for ya. You can even make it 33%/12% if you want
I just assumed that as well. If you want the "free" item, you must accept what comes with it. Otherwise, pay up for what you want it to be.

Easy to understand, but rarely noticed.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Staves on at least a switch are useful for recharging pve-only spells, which a 40/40 won't do.

Enough "good" pvpers can't be any more bothered with weapon swaps in PvE than your average scrub. And I can't be bothered to change my hero's weapons whether in combat or between missions. Sometimes a generic works-anywhere item has merit.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Now, there are some points of view appeared and I'd like to comment them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trouveur
And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?
About enchantments - I agree.

BUT please do not ignore HCT on weapons for mesmer. You probably think that FC is "godly" but it is not that perfect. Think about such spells as (for example) Migraine, Diversion. These are two very important spells in PvP.

a) Diversion is known for its long cast and it is sooo easy to interupt when you are not lucky nor having HCT on your weapon.

b) Typical Migraine build has "only" 9 in FC - you need to share attributes between FC, Illusion (Migraine), Inspiration (interrupts, energy management), sometimes you even need to put more points in Domination (for more interrupts). With that said - you are casting Migraine in around 1.2 sec time (2 sec origin cast time + 9 in FC) - 1.2 sec Migraine? Still soooo easy to interupt. Even "average good" enemy mesmer/ranger can easily interrupt any important spell with 1+ sec cast time! Trust me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
There are 4 weaponsets.
And for some casters (Necros, Mesmers, Eles, Rits), 40/40 sets are better, staves are better for enchant based builds, but offer 20%HRT on all spells.
As I said before, when you made build with usage of many attributes staff could be better than 40/40 set.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
Staves on at least a switch are useful for recharging pve-only spells, which a 40/40 won't do.

Enough "good" pvpers can't be any more bothered with weapon swaps in PvE than your average scrub. And I can't be bothered to change my hero's weapons whether in combat or between missions. Sometimes a generic works-anywhere item has merit.
Agreed. Staff as generic weapon could be better for PvE skills and heroes.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafal
As I said before, when you made build with usage of many attributes staff could be better than 40/40 set.
And as I said in that post, staves are better for enchantment based builds, if you're using multiple attributes, it should be solved by another 40/40 set.

Although I agree on use for PvE skills, but I don't use them. Horrible things.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
And as I said in that post, staves are better for enchantment based builds, if you're using multiple attributes, it should be solved by another 40/40 set.
Not always

My PvP Migraine build will need 40/40 for Illusion, Inspiration and Domination - 3 sets leaving that way only free one space for (probably most used) high energy set. But what about defensive spear/shield set?

It is simply corrected by use: 40/40 illusion set, high energy set, defensive/shield set and 40/20 illusion staff - higher recharge on interrupts is always a nice addition

thoreau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Monday, April 28 is when the much-anticipated birthday presents begin arriving. Starting at 12:01 AM Pacific, players who have characters turning three years old
How can I see my account age?

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by thoreau
How can I see my account age?
/age



12chars

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

ugh 4 characters down....4 more to go (that have finished hp...then to get the laggers there----)....am liking the new weapons, have gotten the scythe, a bow, a scepter and a sword so far----still will get the shield and spear -and at least one staff......
and the cupcakes arent dropping as good as the last special drops.....but that may just be me and my poor luck.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

My oldest char is 5 months lol I will never see my first birthday, let alone my third.

My account is 34 next month though.