Ooooo theres a portal behind a gate in Droknars Forge.....
Onto my point:
I think we should be able to return to the endgame areas just incase we weren't sure what to get or want to go back to craft items.Redoing missions can be a DRAG!
Why should we be able to return to the endgame areas?Well,why not?
Allowing us to re-enter end-game areas
Lishy
Lawrence Chang
Agreed... such a hassle. It should be unlocked to all characters who completes the Hell's mission after the update. I was pretty pissed when a random went through the portal.
Lishy
Not only that..
Having to re-fight the destroyer?Shiro?And even Abbaddon himself?Just because you don't know what materials you need to craft a weapon or armor?Or weren't sure what green to take?
Now worst of all:Having to redo a mission that takes an hour?
I think I've made by statement.
Having to re-fight the destroyer?Shiro?And even Abbaddon himself?Just because you don't know what materials you need to craft a weapon or armor?Or weren't sure what green to take?
Now worst of all:Having to redo a mission that takes an hour?
I think I've made by statement.
Artorius.Maximus
Trivia Question: Why is there a portal behind a gate in Droks?
Answer: Used to be an arena there, prior to all random arenas that were open to level 20 being combined.
/notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too)
Edit: Finally saw the update notes (this is what happens when you go forum surfing at work). Yes there are 4 endgame areas now. I still don't think that this is needed as Hell's Precipice is the only one that takes any effort at all and can still be pushed through easily in 30 min tops by a good team.
Answer: Used to be an arena there, prior to all random arenas that were open to level 20 being combined.
/notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too)
Edit: Finally saw the update notes (this is what happens when you go forum surfing at work). Yes there are 4 endgame areas now. I still don't think that this is needed as Hell's Precipice is the only one that takes any effort at all and can still be pushed through easily in 30 min tops by a good team.
Lishy
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Originally Posted by Artorius.Maximus
Trivia Question: Why is there a portal behind a gate in Droks?
Answer: Used to be an arena there, prior to all random arenas that were open to level 20 being combined. /notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too) |
Now we have 4.And why do we have to pay money to revisit something that we should be able to revisit something any time in the first place just because "We can get a runner"
Games shouldn't be based weather or not something is "runnable" by others.
And we can't go back "simply because they take 10 minutes to get to"
Maybe so for Shiro, but thats still not a good reason.
Chronos the Defiler
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Trivia Question: Why is there a portal behind a gate in Droks?
Answer: Used to be an arena there, prior to all random arenas that were open to level 20 being combined. /notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too) |
Breakfast Mc Rit
Agreed, Wiki only goes so far to help with materials you need. I don't see why we should be made to do a mission all over again because of common human error. After all, we've proven that we can beat the mission.
"/notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too)"
There are 4 of these areas. And I'm not going to pay someone to run me through a mission and then pay again to get what I want from the end-game NPCs.
"/notsigned, only 3 endgame areas exist with special things, and none take over 10 minutes to get there (all have runners too)"
There are 4 of these areas. And I'm not going to pay someone to run me through a mission and then pay again to get what I want from the end-game NPCs.
Lishy
Hai guildiez.I R not chuz mai gren yit, caan yu dou va mishon weth mii?I caann nott re-enteer.
Guild wars=Grind free...........?
Not with endgame areas ._.
Guild wars=Grind free...........?
Not with endgame areas ._.
Siirius Black
that's why they are called end game weapons.
Same argument could be given for fow. If you already cleared all the missions, you would want to be able to go directly to the crafter and craft your armor at any time?
/not signed
Same argument could be given for fow. If you already cleared all the missions, you would want to be able to go directly to the crafter and craft your armor at any time?
/not signed
Lishy
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that's why they are called end game weapons.
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Has Anet official called them endgame weapons?Or is it a stupid nickname the community gave?
And if I beat the final mission, I'm not at the end of the game?
Furthermore:
Why would something be bound simply because of a title it has?
Lawrence Chang
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that's why they are called end game weapons.
Same argument could be given for fow. If you already cleared all the missions, you would want to be able to go directly to the crafter and craft your armor at any time? /not signed |
1. Anet fix the situation by forcing all members to UNPARTY upon entering the end-game area.
2. Allow people to go directly to the area without redoing the mission.
Lishy
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2. Allow people to go directly to the area without redoing the mission.
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It could probably be another thing like Hall of Monuments, or command post.Nobody ever had problems with those.
Lyphen
Against it. But the zone out bug needs to be fixed.
mistokibbles
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Ask yourself this:
Has Anet official called them endgame weapons?Or is it a stupid nickname the community gave? And if I beat the final mission, I'm not at the end of the game? Furthermore: Why would something be bound simply because of a title it has? |
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The end-game area is permanent and will remain in place after the anniversary event finishes.
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MithranArkanere
All endgame areas can be found in places where they could perfectly put gates to go there.
But great part of the deal of getting items from there is making the final mission.
I could agree with making the Lich harded mad putting the fight against him in a separate mission, but not just gettin in the final mission without doing anything at all.
But great part of the deal of getting items from there is making the final mission.
I could agree with making the Lich harded mad putting the fight against him in a separate mission, but not just gettin in the final mission without doing anything at all.
Lishy
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but not just gettin in the final mission without doing anything at all.
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I thought Anet discourages leeching.Now they want us to leech so we can re-enter the places to exchange the talisman?
RedStar
/signed
Even thought it only takes less than 10 (to some, well except Shiro lol), it's annoying to do it more than twice on the same char xD.
Even thought it only takes less than 10 (to some, well except Shiro lol), it's annoying to do it more than twice on the same char xD.
MithranArkanere
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LOLWUT?!
I thought Anet discourages leeching.Now they want us to leech so we can re-enter the places to exchange the talisman? |
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Been discussed COUNTLESS times already. The arguement makes some more sense now that there is one after Hells (a much longer mission then the other 3), but it has still been beaten to death.
Been discussed COUNTLESS times already. The arguement makes some more sense now that there is one after Hells (a much longer mission then the other 3), but it has still been beaten to death.
Lykan
/notsigned for lazy people
snaek
has anythought thought bout ppl exploiting "ferries"?
jus a thought
but yea....i'd like to be able to re-enter at anytime i please
(if jus for hells, cuz it really is an annoying mish)
how bout giving the option to start teh mish at rurik boss fight?
(to those that already beat it of course)
all end-game mishes r boss fights
vs shiro
vs abaddon
vs wutevertehthingfromeotniscalled
it should be vs. rurik+lich only
without killin all these annoyin things that spawn 3 times over jus to kill em
(no...not hard....but annoying and time consuming)
jus a thought
but yea....i'd like to be able to re-enter at anytime i please
(if jus for hells, cuz it really is an annoying mish)
how bout giving the option to start teh mish at rurik boss fight?
(to those that already beat it of course)
all end-game mishes r boss fights
vs shiro
vs abaddon
vs wutevertehthingfromeotniscalled
it should be vs. rurik+lich only
without killin all these annoyin things that spawn 3 times over jus to kill em
(no...not hard....but annoying and time consuming)
R.Shayne
Are they going to fix the problem with people draggin you out of the area?
Length of the mission doesn't matter to me, weapons look awesome and I need a water staff.
Length of the mission doesn't matter to me, weapons look awesome and I need a water staff.
Fitz Rinley
They have a precedent in Kormir not being accessible until after you beat Abaddon. Therefore it can be done so that one can access from Kormir, Vision of Glint, and Kuunavang if one has already beaten the final mission. Or it could be added as an option to the shrines in general, with the option being grayed out if the condition is not met. Or just a single NPC gate guard in each game and the expansion.
Seef II
/signed for characters that have done the missions.
Proph: a simple gate guard imo.
Factions: move that guardsman down.
NF: something in the Chantry of Secrets, perhaps?
EotN: NPC in the Central Transfer Chamber
Proph: a simple gate guard imo.
Factions: move that guardsman down.
NF: something in the Chantry of Secrets, perhaps?
EotN: NPC in the Central Transfer Chamber
Mr Pink57
/notsigned
However I think a storage at end games would be a much better idea.
pink
However I think a storage at end games would be a much better idea.
pink
legion_rat
/signed I already cashed in my stuff, dont want the skanky factions armor. But I can see where people would. Also while in factions end game, I got to see someone drop "so and so has lost his connection" and never connect. which was funny as hell but I bet he was ready to kill when it happened. I think if it is an end of the game area and we have beaten the game we should be able to map (party less) there. Its not the same as FoW as you have to fight things in FoW. In the end game areas there are no enemies. Unless you count the stupid phoenix when someone wants it for a pet.
~the rat~
~the rat~
Breakfast Mc Rit
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ok what the hell is at the end of proph? there was nothing last time I beat it.
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And I also think being able to travel there party-less is the perfect solution to having an accessible end-game area and limiting any exploitation possibilities to it significantly.
Lishy
But the problem with this topic is that a lot of people posting here think the issue is about prophecies end-game area.
The topic is about endgame areas in general.
The topic is about endgame areas in general.
Richardt
This isn't a half bad idea.
I don't think ferrying is an issue with this if it's made so that you have to have beaten it at least once on your character.
/signed
I don't think ferrying is an issue with this if it's made so that you have to have beaten it at least once on your character.
/signed
Lishy
Solution for ferrying:
Being teleported away from your party.
This is a viable idea and I say that it can work.Some of us don't want to spend an hour deciding which endgame weapon is best for them.
Being teleported away from your party.
This is a viable idea and I say that it can work.Some of us don't want to spend an hour deciding which endgame weapon is best for them.
Shai Lee
/notsigned
Players might think it a bother to have to redo the end-game areas for things they want, but in re-doing them, it also gives first time players a chance to get into groups. End-game areas avoid being ghost towns if there is an incentive to complete it.
Also:
Looks like we shouldn't get dragged out of the Hell's end-game area anymore.
Players might think it a bother to have to redo the end-game areas for things they want, but in re-doing them, it also gives first time players a chance to get into groups. End-game areas avoid being ghost towns if there is an incentive to complete it.
Also:
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legion_rat
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/notsigned
Players might think it a bother to have to redo the end-game areas for things they want, but in re-doing them, it also gives first time players a chance to get into groups. End-game areas avoid being ghost towns if there is an incentive to complete it. |
it goes like this.
"Ping you build Shai Lee"
*ping*
"What the F-ck kinda noob shit is that?"
*kick*
I have been in a party that this happened. I agree with you that player help would be nice but i dont see it happening. and on the other side of this I am lazy and dont want to have to do the stupid missions again.
~the rat~
did I mention I am lazy?
sdgg00
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did I mention I am lazy?
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Though my friends and I sometimes help people who need such assistance, I rarely see others are nice enough to pay extra patience doing this.
It does sound like we are lazy, but it could be very nice to ease our way to make elite armours, selecting end-game items.
I also have thought of the meaning of "end-game item/area/armour", if we can freely revisit end-game areas as reward of achieving special requirements or designed hidden objectives, accessing these areas without redoing entire mission would be slightly reasonable. (Of cause, hidden requrement can be set to be very difficult as another joy of challenge.)
Zesbeer
/sign there should just be a npc that can check and see if you have completed the mission and all other party members.
Lishy
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/notsigned
Players might think it a bother to have to redo the end-game areas for things they want, but in re-doing them, it also gives first time players a chance to get into groups. End-game areas avoid being ghost towns if there is an incentive to complete it. Also: Looks like we shouldn't get dragged out of the Hell's end-game area anymore. |
Also, are you blind or lack comprehension of the English literature??This thread is NOT about being teleported back to droknars forge and people wanting back in.It is about end-game areas in general.
Every time someone acts like this thread is about the prophecies endgame area, it makes me want to kill a kitten >_>