Status report: Hammers

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zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#1
For long time i though that green hammers with 20/20 15^50 30hp are overly rare (as in, nonexistent), but ever since faction times devs fixed that and they were dropping left and right from anything that looks even remotely warriory:

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Droknar's Maul
Durgon's Maul
Eldritch Maul
Forgotten Hammer
Havok's Maul
Jormungand's Thunder
Kanaxai's Mallet
Vera
And now we got Deldrimor Maul, brand new unique hammer with surprising stats: 20/20 15^50 +30HP. Ninth one in fact

I hereby dare (double dare in fact) developers add yet another 20/20 15^50 +30HP green hammer. Don't be mislead, I would actually love it because after that there would be 10 such hammers, enough to outfit Gorens on all my character with different unique hammers yet with uniform stats.

Make it Mursaat Hammer skin, please. That one is really missing.

(Fine print: this is supposed to be humorous, sorry for fail. I actually like it that actually good features from later chapters are backported to prophecies. However, amount of theese green hammers is ridiculous.)
Esan
Esan
Jungle Guide
#2
Assuming you're using hammer heroes for that new Earth Shaker/Yeti Smash fad, I would think that Furious would easily beat out Sundering. Why are you equipping your Gorens with trash?
escoffier
escoffier
Academy Page
#3
i put hammers on my goren heroes as well cause i never use him, but need a nice storage slot for a hammer =)
cataphract
cataphract
Forge Runner
#4
Earth Shaker/Yet Smash is new? I must be living in a temporal flux.
Esan
Esan
Jungle Guide
#5
It's a fad among certain people who have their noses too high in the air to use Ursan, but can't live without clockwork AoE knockdowns.
Longasc
Longasc
Forge Runner
#6
Start another Furious vs Sundering on this or that weapon thread?

Are you dumb, Esan?
Buzzer
Buzzer
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
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Originally Posted by Esan
Why are you equipping your Gorens with trash?
Trash? 20/20 +30 15^50 is the best for heroes...
cataphract
cataphract
Forge Runner
#8
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Start another Furious vs Sundering on this or that weapon thread?
Why aren't there any furios bow strings?
I know I sometimes get into a Barrage-spamming induced Frenzy.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#9
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Originally Posted by cataphract
Why aren't there any furios bow strings?
I know I sometimes get into a Barrage-spamming induced Frenzy.
Well, there is furious daggers prefix for example, Bows miss one. This is not that thread thou. (edit: i stand corrected on scythes)

Anyhow, list of 10% Furious/ 15^50 / 30 green hammers is very skinny:

Mallyx's Maul, Victos Maul, Maul of the Hierophant.

Which is no biggie since anyone with prophecies can produce perfect furious prefixes for hammer at rate of ~3-4 per hour.

There are only two perfect Vampiric Hammer greens, a bit more alarming.

20/20 hammers make 2/3rd of "worth looking into" hammers. Even more alarming.

And worst shocker is, of course, like with all the greens, there is no +5 ar version.

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Originally Posted by Esan
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Only person you managed to insult is yourself. Good job!
Esan
Esan
Jungle Guide
#10
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Start another Furious vs Sundering on this or that weapon thread?
The classic debate is between Sundering and Vampiric, not Sundering and Furious. Sundering is just trash, full stop.
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Are you dumb, Esan?
Yes.
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ogre_jd
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
For long time i though that green hammers with 20/20 15^50 30hp are overly rare (as in, nonexistent), but ever since faction times devs fixed that and they were dropping left and right from anything that looks even remotely warriory:

{{quoted list not appearing, of course}}

And now we got Deldrimor Maul, brand new unique hammer with surprising stats: 20/20 15^50 +30HP. Ninth one in fact
There's also a half one - the Sundering Rhino's Charge from the GotY /bonus set. It doesn't have the +30 HP, but it can accept a suffix so it's not hard hard to correct.
Scutilla
Scutilla
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
It's a problem with all physical weapons, not just hammers. Go through the EotN green weapon list and virtually all will have at least two of those three mods (sundering, fortitude, 15>50).

I kind of miss those odd Sorrow's Furnace greens, with weird mods like Shocking and Shelter. Sure, a lot of people would prefer something different, but at least they're unique.
I Angra I
I Angra I
Krytan Explorer
#13
I don't see what other mods you would really want on a hammer anyway, those mods are the best for them. Axe and sword are a little different of course though.
Orange Milk
Orange Milk
Desert Nomad
#14
I'm not supper hapy with the endgame greens as of late, no variety.

And I agree, I'd like to see somethings witha +5 AR or +7 Vs X.

I guess ANet is going for a "Make the majority happy" approach, which makes sense in the long run, instead of creating truly "rare" weapons that could/would be held onto as a collectable.

As it is this far into the life of the game I'm pretty damned fully outfitted, so I just go in and grab what looks nice knowing I'll never use it and yeah, maybe chuck it onto a Hero.

Sure their are people getting to the end of games on new accounts for the first time ever, but come on, the same stats on everything in every end game? Meh, I'll go back and do Hell's someday but I'm in no hurry.

HOWEVER, I do thank ANet for the new content rather nice of them to add something at no cost to me.
angmar_nite
angmar_nite
Jungle Guide
#15
WTB Intelligence for Esan.
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IlikeGW
Jungle Guide
#16
greens are outclassed since inscriptions anyway... might as well just buy the gold version if you want something
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#17
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
greens are outclassed since inscriptions anyway... might as well just buy the gold version if you want something
Well, they are cheap access to max stats ... if you like those stats.
??iljo
??iljo
Desert Nomad
#18
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Make it Mursaat Hammer skin, please. That one is really missing.
yea,and lets make all rare skin weaps into crap green modded...wait,got a better one
lets make a collectors green armor that looks like obsidian armor...


yep,it's a fail alright!

Abedeus
Abedeus
Grotto Attendant
#19
Lol lol just use Ursan n00bs, Goren or better Zenmai and Anton + Ursan is a win l00s3rs, maybe give them save yourselves because they suck at maintaining skills l0l id10t5 and they should have a/w to spam dragon slash and like shoot lazor beamz from eyez!!!11

[/heavy sarcasm]

But lol, seriously Furious is better than Sundering... More earthshakers + more aoe > a bit stronger auto-attacking by a low chance.
Age
Age
Hall Hero
#20
I much prefer the skins of the PvP hammers and like the one Devona uses.