No harm done, Andrew.
Although, I do disagree and believe that any blame should be on Wasabi's shoulders.
S/he's an active member of these forums and is well aware the kind of fuss that this would cause, but ignored that (consequently making a lot of people angry with both you and ANet) for his/her own gain.
And trying to sell your mask? That's pretty low, if you ask me.
Apology - Third Year Mini
kokuou
Nightow
People become upset when they are surprised sometimes, especially when someone surprises them by having what seems to be an unfair advantage. In this game, like it or not, minipets = free gold to a lot of players. So when Wasabi posted the mini pet in high end, it caught a lot of people off guard and in a negative way.
Everyone knew what date was posted on the guildwars.com website for the new minipets to arrive; if Wasabi had thought about this, he would not have posted it for sale. When you gave him the pet, the responsibility was passed over to Wasabi. What ever he did with it from there was his responsibility, not AP's.
Everyone knew what date was posted on the guildwars.com website for the new minipets to arrive; if Wasabi had thought about this, he would not have posted it for sale. When you gave him the pet, the responsibility was passed over to Wasabi. What ever he did with it from there was his responsibility, not AP's.
Pure Disasta
Awesome you get your mini's a day early but i get mine 2 months late. Fix your stupid counter please?
LOTS OF LOVE <3
LOTS OF LOVE <3
Firebaall
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I'm sure you're aware of when he wanted to sell your mask? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10266867
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I'm thinking you don't want to let Wasabi ever meet you in person. I think you might later find your shoes on Ebay, if you did.
Nightow
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lol...not helping his case here.
I'm thinking you don't want to let Wasabi ever meet you in person. I think you might later find your shoes on Ebay, if you did. |
Kashrlyyk
Thanks for that. And please ANet don´t repeat the same mistakes again. Keep your CRM in the loop.
Sab
Money > friends amirite?
I don't think you're the one who should be apologizing here, Andrew.
I don't think you're the one who should be apologizing here, Andrew.
Drelias Melaku
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lol...not helping his case here.
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Firebaall
I never meant to help his case. I think his actions speak louder than anything I could say.
Arkantos
You give him your festival hat, he tries to sell it. You give him your 3rd year birthday present, he tries to sell it. Trying to make gold off your presents, what a great friend he is. If you want to be so generous, find someone who won't sell what you're kindly giving away, Andrew.
At least you admitted you made a mistake, and apologized for it. Too bad Wasabi won't admit or apologize to anything. It seems he's the kind of person to hide in the shadows and lurk around threads concerning this.
At least you admitted you made a mistake, and apologized for it. Too bad Wasabi won't admit or apologize to anything. It seems he's the kind of person to hide in the shadows and lurk around threads concerning this.
Navaros
That's respectable of Andrew to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake. 
I'm curious about how Wasabi got the pet back so easily. Did he increase the price he bought it back for? Did he threaten the buyer with dev intervention of the banstick on the buyer's account? I'm skeptical that the buyer would just "sell it back" without having first been given any of such incentives to do so.
I'm curious about how Wasabi got the pet back so easily. Did he increase the price he bought it back for? Did he threaten the buyer with dev intervention of the banstick on the buyer's account? I'm skeptical that the buyer would just "sell it back" without having first been given any of such incentives to do so.
Drelias Melaku
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You give him your festival hat, he tries to sell it. You give him your 3rd year birthday present, he tries to sell it. Trying to make gold off your presents, what a great friend he is. If you want to be so generous, find someone who won't sell what you're kindly giving away, Andrew.
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Darkobra
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I agree 100%. Receiving a gift from a friend shouldn't immediately bring thoughts of, "now how much can I get for this?"
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Drelias Melaku
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Exactly. I have never sold a gift from friends. Hell, I still have a Goblin Nutcracker of the Monkey from my girlfriend in WoW, as well as the tuxedo she likes me to wear when I meet her in game... as well as.... She's clogging my bank to hell.
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EDIT: Arkantos, I did see Wasabi's name in the "viewing" list earlier.. I was shocked to see that he left without comment. Just let Andrew take the heat, eh?
American Wrath
That's the kind of guy Wasabi is - a good enough friend to get your minipet back after he has already ripped off some buyer at the cost of his dignity and the respect of everyone in the Guild Wars and Guild Wars Guru community.
Where I come from, it is highly respectable to give someone the honor of selling your goods back to you after you have already taken much time and effort to take advantage of them for a couple extra platinum THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NEED.
Where I come from, it is highly respectable to give someone the honor of selling your goods back to you after you have already taken much time and effort to take advantage of them for a couple extra platinum THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NEED.
MMSDome
Appreciate the apology Andrew and now I am hoping one other person can apologize as well (others have said the same thing). Was not fully your fault but you should have known what the guy did in the past with various other things such as what Arky posted.
Live and learn
Live and learn
Creeping Carl
Gee, I see so many throwing stones but I havent seen anyone apologize for the crazy conspiracies and accusing the devs of favoritism and supposedly "conjuring" up minipets for ZoS.
I really do have to shake my head at the proportions this has been blown up into. People are so willing and ready to lynch each other for the most slightest of things.
I really do have to shake my head at the proportions this has been blown up into. People are so willing and ready to lynch each other for the most slightest of things.
MMSDome
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Gee, I see so many throwing stones but I havent seen anyone apologize for the crazy conspiracies and accusing the devs of favoritism and supposedly "conjuring" up minipets for ZoS.
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Creeping Carl
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Um why should the community apologize its not their fault. Blame is only rightfully pointed at one side here.
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manitoba1073
I find it more funny how some of you are now realizing these things.
The skeletons will eventually come out of there closets. Whos next to have there closet opened up. *grabs popcorn*
The skeletons will eventually come out of there closets. Whos next to have there closet opened up. *grabs popcorn*
Tatile
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Um why should the community apologize its not their fault. Blame is only rightfully pointed at one side here.
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Andrew was confused/unaware of the minipet release date;
Wasabi was equally unaware, but took advantage of a friend's kindness;
A fair proportion of the community 'jumped the gun' and started pointing fingers.
Who is to blame? Everyone and no one. A lack of information and communication is the only problem here, hopefully it won't be in the future.
Thanks for this Andrew, let's hope that more memos will be sent out about events and minipets in the future
MMSDome
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You're right. I guess it isnt the fault of a few people who whipped the whole community into a frenzy with false accusations of devs poofing up minipets for the ZoS. The community was already in a frenzy.
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Now lets stay on topic!
Creeping Carl
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It seems that (this taken entirely from this thread, mind you):
Andrew was confused/unaware of the minipet release date; Wasabi was equally unaware, but took advantage of a friend's kindness; A fair proportion of the community 'jumped the gun' and started pointing fingers. Who is to blame? Everyone and no one. A lack of information and communication is the only problem here, hopefully it won't be in the future. Thanks for this Andrew, let's hope that more memos will be sent out about events and minipets in the future |
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Now lets stay on topic!
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Shouldnt we just accept the apology and move on?
gone
well since a few people are saying it's the community over reacting....and we need to give apologies...
I put this to you Mr. Patrick-
if this was the first year pets were released, I'd let you off easy(;-])...can you explain why, after the third year release, you just now notice that you get your pets a little earlier than others? I mean surely, you got them earlier, say last year and the year before that..right? and if not, why then just this year? (yes I know leap year, but even still you would receive them earlier than others)
is it a coincidence that the same person was trying to sell a "game breaking" item for a vast amount? that was then magically nerfed.
I put this to you Mr. Patrick-
if this was the first year pets were released, I'd let you off easy(;-])...can you explain why, after the third year release, you just now notice that you get your pets a little earlier than others? I mean surely, you got them earlier, say last year and the year before that..right? and if not, why then just this year? (yes I know leap year, but even still you would receive them earlier than others)
is it a coincidence that the same person was trying to sell a "game breaking" item for a vast amount? that was then magically nerfed.
arcanemacabre
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Wasabi was equally unaware, but took advantage of a friend's kindness;
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Arduin
Thanks for explaining and cleaning up some of the mess this issue has created
Tatile
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Wrong. Wasabi was fully aware (his sell thread he says clearly: "This is prolly the first in game!"). Not to mention his trying to sell a festival mask (customized to AP, BTW) before this paints a nice picture of his character.
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I did see the hat thread though, that was very weird, and pathetic.
Deviant Angel
*sits down with a bowl of popcorn*
I didn't see any of this coming... oh wait, yes I did.
I didn't see any of this coming... oh wait, yes I did.
Cuthroat Dibbler
With great power comes great responsibility.....
Not the smartest move and not what was wanted but good to see you made efforts to fix it rapidly. Silly man!
Anyhoo, this is one reason why working for the Co, seeing/getting stuff early can be a disadvantage. A job that can seem enviable can have its own little sharp edges too easy to cut yourself on.
Not the smartest move and not what was wanted but good to see you made efforts to fix it rapidly. Silly man!
Anyhoo, this is one reason why working for the Co, seeing/getting stuff early can be a disadvantage. A job that can seem enviable can have its own little sharp edges too easy to cut yourself on.
dwc89
Kudos for the apology and explanation, a bit late though.
However, damage done I'm afraid. Funny how your friend was the first to post a pic of 1 of the design a wep winners. Was the second batch of those wepons.
They might not have been the first to get it, or maybe didn't even get it as a drop themselves.
My point is, the perception is favortism. And that perception has been around for a long time. The mistake with the mini just brought it to a head, for me anyway. The new weapon skin came to my mind after this came to light, and my list goes on and back a long time.
And it doesn't matter if what I think might have happened, did or not. The perception that it "might" have happened is there. Like I said, damage done.
However, damage done I'm afraid. Funny how your friend was the first to post a pic of 1 of the design a wep winners. Was the second batch of those wepons.
They might not have been the first to get it, or maybe didn't even get it as a drop themselves.
My point is, the perception is favortism. And that perception has been around for a long time. The mistake with the mini just brought it to a head, for me anyway. The new weapon skin came to my mind after this came to light, and my list goes on and back a long time.
And it doesn't matter if what I think might have happened, did or not. The perception that it "might" have happened is there. Like I said, damage done.
Solas
Can't stay mad after that apology
aye, we all make mistakes
was pretty scummy of the person to sell it on after you gave ti to them though.( Selling a gift)
btw is that thing true about wasabi trying to sell a mask customised to SP?
if so you should pick your friends better as you seem to be a walking wallet for him.
aye, we all make mistakes
was pretty scummy of the person to sell it on after you gave ti to them though.( Selling a gift)
btw is that thing true about wasabi trying to sell a mask customised to SP?
if so you should pick your friends better as you seem to be a walking wallet for him.
pumpkin pie
erm, what kind of a friend would leak your secrets?
Articus Red
its cool man, we're all human. all that matters is that you came from a professional position and told the community whats up. that takes alot to admit to a mistake when you don't want to.
arcanemacabre
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My point is, the perception is favortism. And that perception has been around for a long time. The mistake with the mini just brought it to a head, for me anyway. The new weapon skin came to my mind after this came to light, and my list goes on and back a long time.
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I completely understand what happened, I'm just outraged at how Wasabi handled it (and other things like the festival hat). I think this would be the point that I would not consider him a close friend if I were Andrew (which coincidentally is my middle name). Wasabi needs a timeout, learn a little restraint, and most of all what it means to be TRUSTED.
*jumps off soapbox*
DarkNecrid
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well since a few people are saying it's the community over reacting....and we need to give apologies...
I put this to you Mr. Patrick- if this was the first year pets were released, I'd let you off easy(;-])...can you explain why, after the third year release, you just now notice that you get your pets a little earlier than others? I mean surely, you got them earlier, say last year and the year before that..right? and if not, why then just this year? (yes I know leap year, but even still you would receive them earlier than others) is it a coincidence that the same person was trying to sell a "game breaking" item for a vast amount? that was then magically nerfed. |
Just guessing...
gone
yeah and i'm just guessing at this as well.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=2336403&pp=25
-if some people will try and have me believe a certain someone didn't know exactly what he was doing...just lulz.(and it's not AP)
that certain someone has made roughly 2,462 ectos and around 500k. not counting possible braces, so it's a kind estimate.
someone that can hustle that much, isn't a babe in the woods.
I'm sorry Mr. Patrick, but you've been taken for a ride.
@DarkNecrid.
yeah. maybe.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=2336403&pp=25
-if some people will try and have me believe a certain someone didn't know exactly what he was doing...just lulz.(and it's not AP)
that certain someone has made roughly 2,462 ectos and around 500k. not counting possible braces, so it's a kind estimate.
someone that can hustle that much, isn't a babe in the woods.
I'm sorry Mr. Patrick, but you've been taken for a ride.
@DarkNecrid.
yeah. maybe.
fenix
Thanks for clearing this up Andrew, very noble of you. This explains a lot.
I agree with the rest of the thread, in that WhiteWasabi is to blame here. I imagine a few people are going to reconsider associating with him in the future, considering how he acted in this whole incident.
I agree with the rest of the thread, in that WhiteWasabi is to blame here. I imagine a few people are going to reconsider associating with him in the future, considering how he acted in this whole incident.
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erm, what kind of a friend would leak your secrets?
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Crom The Pale
Seams like nothing to get worked up over. So a single mini pet was released into the mainstream population a little ahead of time. This is hardly going to upset the balance or destroy the echonomy. Yes a few people might get a little bit confused if there char was here from the start but didnt get a pet when you did, but its a very minor thing.
Cudos for making an apollogy though.
Cudos for making an apollogy though.
Kashrlyyk
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erm, what kind of a friend would leak your secrets?
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