Question on Gwen and the Tapestry Shred in pre-Searing

Hi, all.

I started playing Guild Wars this past weekend, reached level 8, and was pretty much set to head into the post-Searing world. The someone asked me if I'd gotten the Tapestry Shred from Gwen. I hadn't, but looked into how I could get it and here is the timeline as I think it went for me...

Completed the quest to Find Gwen's flute.
Picked up the 'Adventure with an Ally' quest.
Went back into Ascalon to find someone who could team up for the Ally quest.
Found someone and completed Ally quest.
Later on saw merchants who sold the Flute and Girl's Cape and bought the Flute (Gwen would not take it as she already had a Flute and Cape)
Learned about the Tapestry shred.
Gave Gwen approx. 9 flowers...no Tapestry Shred.

The only way I can figure Gwen ended up with the Flute and the Cape (I was not paying attention to whether or not she had them at each point) is that the person I teamed with had already given them to her.

If that is the case, at this point, can I even get the Shred? Should I just start over? Is that even worth the trouble?

Thanks for any information or advice you can provide.

what this means is Before you gave the Cape/Flute to Gwen You went outside ascalon with someone that Already had, for some reason its a bug with pre-searing that Prevents you from getting the shard... basically DO NOT GROUP with Anyone until AFTER you get the tapestry shred....

Just get a red iris flower to get the rose offhand or Gwen's Broken Flute for the flute offhand. Shred gives the same stuff.

As Covah said.

You have a "bad" Gwen - that solitary time you partied with someone to get the res sig screwed up your Gwen. It happens often, which is why ANet gave other opportunities to take the EotN Gwen quests.

Moral: Gwen shouldn't be allowed to go to parties - she gets screwed.

The Shred gives a different quest as well, one for the Flute off-hand. That quest is only allowed for characters who are Tyrian-born.

I think you can get the shred if you give her a ton of flowers in one sitting. Its been a long time since I got a shred though and even when I gave her the flute and cape last time I tried to get it, I ended giving about 20 flowers with still no shred.

Its only worth the time if you want the Flute off-hand

To make a distinction between Gwen's Eye of the North Quests:

Fire and Pain
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fire_and_Pain
"(only if there is a Red Iris Flower, Tattered Girl's Cape, Small Girl's Cape or Preserved Red Iris Flower in inventory, broken flutes do not work)"

Then and Now, Here and There
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Then_...Here_and_There
Required Hero: Gwen
Must be a character from Prophecies.
Must have a Tapestry Shred in your inventory.

So to acquire "Fire and Pain" a simple Red Iris Flower will work, however to get "Then and Now, Here and There" you must have a Tapestry Shred.

So, unfortunately you must remake that character and get the Shred before grouping with someone else or make another character to get the Shred. As stated by others, it is a known "glitch".

Good Luck.

Damn, you're right. I could have sworn that they made this possible with the broken flute/tattered cape. How odd.

Thanks for the explanations. I should have known there was something off about that kid when she just skipped around telling me about apple pie as I was fighting for my life. Does her mother know what she sees on her "adventures"?

Anyway, I guess now I decide my next step. Luckily, with only a few hours (ok, maybe it was 8 or 9) invested, starting over is not a big deal. Especially if I can figure out how to get my 3k in cupcake money over to the new character.

Take her through to Post, deposit the Cupcakes in storage and THEN delete

When you restart, I recommend finding Gwen's flute for her, then just giving her Red Irises - taken 3 characters through that way, usually only takes 5 to 8 of them. Never bought the flute or small girl's cape yet.

Don't take Adventure With an Ally before you've got it. Or Across the Wall, or whatever it's called. Or team up with anyone

ahh now i know y after giving her 30 flowers n shes still a stubborn blockhead...got to find sometime to re-create another char in pre...

Just a thought: You can buy tapestry shreds from perma-pre's and people who aren't planning on buying EotN fairly cheaply.