Since PvP is losing its money support anyways, and only in game prizes will be given out, why not have PvE competitions for those in game prizes as well?
Anet doesn't have to worry about not having enough money to give out real life prizes, so they could give prizes to the top 8 finishers in something like the fastest run in DoA/UW/FoW/Urgoz/Deep (without consumables/ursan to make it more challenging), maybe one for each month.
In game prizes for PvE competitions
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Lawrence Chang
Sorta like the idea, but what items did you have in mind? I hope it isn't some useless "super duper rare" item that the winners grind to get just so they can make big bucks out of it.
Autonom
Prises for challenge missions would be cool.
Bring some new weapons into the game.
Bring some new weapons into the game.
I Will Heal You Ally
I would say some costumized things that could be put in HoM 
hippo942
sounds good to me although pvp people will start whining soon 
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
Sorta like the idea, but what items did you have in mind? I hope it isn't some useless "super duper rare" item that the winners grind to get just so they can make big bucks out of it.
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Anyways... /signed if it develops into a full, thought-out idea.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
(without consumables/ursan to make it more challenging)
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An imbagon is just as bad as Ursan for turning elite zones into c-space fests.
Elder III
Agreed with all the above posts...
/signed
/signed
Elder III
Agreed with all the above posts...
/signed
/signed
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by hippo942
sounds good to me although pvp people will start whining soon
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Productivity
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Originally Posted by hippo942
sounds good to me although pvp people will start whining soon
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MithranArkanere
PvE with prices for competition...?
Hm... the Challenge ladders were a bad idea. PvE should never have a single trace of competition.
Hm... the Challenge ladders were a bad idea. PvE should never have a single trace of competition.
the savage nornbear
/signed, good times even though ill never see a single prize
Tyla
Mehhh...make it guild groups only and slap some score guy (Based on time, total deaths ect.) inside the outpost.
Painbringer
I like the idea but instead of elite areas how about a NPC that gives a new riddle every week. You get 1 hour or 2 to finish his cryptic quest. And your account can only do the quest once. The riddle changes so Wiki can not destroy the challenge. Quest could be anything like find an item and bring it to me or destroy something. But again it would be in riddles and you would have to figure it out yourself.
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
PvE with prices for competition...?
Hm... the Challenge ladders were a bad idea. PvE should never have a single trace of competition. |
Div
I am disappointed at the turnout 
Where did all the mindless drones that want free stuff go? Oh wait, you actually have to work for this, never mind.
Where did all the mindless drones that want free stuff go? Oh wait, you actually have to work for this, never mind.
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
So I guess they need to remove trading and item rarities then, since both facilitate competition in their own regard. Item Rarities for who can get THAT AWSM GOLD/GREEN HELL YEA and trading causes competition at the higher level of items, as well as the competition known as "bartering".
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Almost everyone I know in-game does the same.
PvE =/= Competition.
PvE == Cooperation.
Proff
Just go to pvp if you want the rewards, pve is filled with its own minis and items.
MagmaRed
Not sure what kind of prize you were considering. Money obviously is not one of them, but in game items are quite limited.
Mini-pet? Please, no more minis.
Weapon? Either uber rare, and would make PvE players mad, or uber common and not worth it.
Skills? Please, no more PvE skills.
Title? Please no more titles.
Monument? We already have monuments for the elite areas.
Armor? See weapon.
Cape? GvG players will not be happy.
So what exactly would be awarded, and how? Based on player alone, or guild/alliance? Based on time (ugh, Factions missions were bad enough)?
/unsigned because there isn't much info to make me want this more than I currently do.
Mini-pet? Please, no more minis.
Weapon? Either uber rare, and would make PvE players mad, or uber common and not worth it.
Skills? Please, no more PvE skills.
Title? Please no more titles.
Monument? We already have monuments for the elite areas.
Armor? See weapon.
Cape? GvG players will not be happy.
So what exactly would be awarded, and how? Based on player alone, or guild/alliance? Based on time (ugh, Factions missions were bad enough)?
/unsigned because there isn't much info to make me want this more than I currently do.
Painbringer
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
Not sure what kind of prize you were considering. Money obviously is not one of them, but in game items are quite limited.
Mini-pet? Please, no more minis. Weapon? Either uber rare, and would make PvE players mad, or uber common and not worth it. Skills? Please, no more PvE skills. Title? Please no more titles. Monument? We already have monuments for the elite areas. Armor? See weapon. Cape? GvG players will not be happy. So what exactly would be awarded, and how? Based on player alone, or guild/alliance? Based on time (ugh, Factions missions were bad enough)? /unsigned because there isn't much info to make me want this more than I currently do. |
Limited yes but if they made me glow like bosses do out side of PVP Island I would luv it
Ate of DK
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Since PvP is losing its money support anyways, and only in game prizes will be given out, why not have PvE competitions for those in game prizes as well?
Anet doesn't have to worry about not having enough money to give out real life prizes, so they could give prizes to the top 8 finishers in something like the fastest run in DoA/UW/FoW/Urgoz/Deep (without consumables/ursan to make it more challenging), maybe one for each month. |
Ursanway does not need to be rewarded. Besides that we allready get a chance on some unique weapons and skins. Think this is a very bad idea.
MirkoTeran
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/not signed
Ursanway does not need to be rewarded. Besides that we allready get a chance on some unique weapons and skins. Think this is a very bad idea. |
Tyla
Ate, read the bottom paragraph of your quote.
Richardt
This could be very cool.
But instead of an Elite Area, how about ANet selects a challenge mission, disables the use of PvE skills and consets, and the highest score gets it.
That would be easier on the programming side as all you need to do really is set up the banning of PvE skills and Cons-the scoring system is already in place.
As for prizes....not sure what they could offer-maybe a different cape trimming or something that marks the guild for their efforts at PvE.
But instead of an Elite Area, how about ANet selects a challenge mission, disables the use of PvE skills and consets, and the highest score gets it.
That would be easier on the programming side as all you need to do really is set up the banning of PvE skills and Cons-the scoring system is already in place.
As for prizes....not sure what they could offer-maybe a different cape trimming or something that marks the guild for their efforts at PvE.
MirkoTeran
The problem with current challenge missions is that at least 2 of them are totally broken and rely only on time spent in there, and very little on skill.
The Meth
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Since PvP is losing its money support anyways, and only in game prizes will be given out, why not have PvE competitions for those in game prizes as well?
Anet doesn't have to worry about not having enough money to give out real life prizes, so they could give prizes to the top 8 finishers in something like the fastest run in DoA/UW/FoW/Urgoz/Deep (without consumables/ursan to make it more challenging), maybe one for each month. |
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by The Meth
People who finish hard areas faster get more drops and money. They are already rewarded. I think having some kind of ladder for missions like in the competitive missions would be cool, but there doesn't need to be prizes. We already have enough worthless crap in PvE.
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Note: This are just from top of the head suggestions.
- (Temporary) title. Can't be added to HoM. Does not count as max title.
- Like already suggested: Cape. Probably bad as PvP-ers would not approve of this.
- Statue with winning guilds name for next month in some town(s).
The Meth
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Prizes does not need to be normal items. There are number of other possibilities.
Note: This are just from top of the head suggestions. - (Temporary) title. Can't be added to HoM. Does not count as max title. - Like already suggested: Cape. Probably bad as PvP-ers would not approve of this. - Statue with winning guilds name for next month in some town(s). |
Does anyone really care about capes? Most people disable them in PvE anyway because they clip horribly.
Statue with winning names is kind of the same as the ladder NPC at competitive missions.
Just don't clutter the game with random useless items that are exactly the same as the other billion random useless items in the game.
Moloch Vein
It's a good idea. I propose a price!
Winning team for each competition gets one ticket for each player. Each ticket can be redeemed for one PIECE of armor. ANY armor, including but not limited to FoW armor.
Too non-special? Add:
The armor gained in this way will have GOLD color. Wow. Completely useless, but I'm sure someone will love it to death.
If you want a real shocking thing that would make this the most sought-for item in GW PvE:
If you manage to get hold of ALL golden armor, you gain the Boss glow while wearing this armor set in PvE.
Quite honestly I think the bottom option is the best. Sure, it's a huge boon, but honestly, shouldn't actual in-game skill be rewarded?
Winning team for each competition gets one ticket for each player. Each ticket can be redeemed for one PIECE of armor. ANY armor, including but not limited to FoW armor.
Too non-special? Add:
The armor gained in this way will have GOLD color. Wow. Completely useless, but I'm sure someone will love it to death.
If you want a real shocking thing that would make this the most sought-for item in GW PvE:
If you manage to get hold of ALL golden armor, you gain the Boss glow while wearing this armor set in PvE.
Quite honestly I think the bottom option is the best. Sure, it's a huge boon, but honestly, shouldn't actual in-game skill be rewarded?
I Can Cure Cancer
People who finish the elite areas the fastest are already rewarded in the form of the end-area chest and since you cna do it the fastest you can get to it faster than anyone else. /notsigned
Winterclaw
For the right prizes, this would be a nice idea. But I would limit it to a core PvE area, either an existing one or a new one.
Racthoh
Pretty sure when we were talking ingame you were joking but apparently you were serious about this.
Challenge missions were a great idea, but the problem as already mentioned was that in order to get a decent score get ready to invest hours into a single run. Dajkah Inlet and Zos Shivros for example take over an hour to score fairly high, and pac-man I've personally sank multiple hours into one go and still didn't take top spot. Ultimately none of them really showcase any player skill at all, and although that's true for all of PvE, if you want to attach prizes onto them they should go towards players that are somewhat deserving.
A fastest time suffers too much from lag and such. Avoiding that little issue would be great.
Challenge missions were a great idea, but the problem as already mentioned was that in order to get a decent score get ready to invest hours into a single run. Dajkah Inlet and Zos Shivros for example take over an hour to score fairly high, and pac-man I've personally sank multiple hours into one go and still didn't take top spot. Ultimately none of them really showcase any player skill at all, and although that's true for all of PvE, if you want to attach prizes onto them they should go towards players that are somewhat deserving.
A fastest time suffers too much from lag and such. Avoiding that little issue would be great.
RavagerOfDreams
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Not sure what kind of prize you were considering. Money obviously is not one of them, but in game items are quite limited.
Mini-pet? Please, no more minis. Weapon? Either uber rare, and would make PvE players mad, or uber common and not worth it. Skills? Please, no more PvE skills. Title? Please no more titles. Monument? We already have monuments for the elite areas. Armor? See weapon. Cape? GvG players will not be happy. So what exactly would be awarded, and how? Based on player alone, or guild/alliance? Based on time (ugh, Factions missions were bad enough)? /unsigned because there isn't much info to make me want this more than I currently do. |
/notsigned for more rare stuff in game that no1 but a select few can get
You Look Grim
Divine letz play some PS3
traeskapa
Sounds interesting enough...
/signed
And I don't know what programming language "=/=" is, but it's more common to do "!=", as in Elton John != gay.
/signed
And I don't know what programming language "=/=" is, but it's more common to do "!=", as in Elton John != gay.
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
I do not get things in PvE to compete with others. I get them because I want them.
Almost everyone I know in-game does the same. PvE =/= Competition. PvE == Cooperation. |
Div
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Pretty sure when we were talking ingame you were joking but apparently you were serious about this.
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LOL I TRICKED YOU!!!
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And I don't know what programming language "=/=" is
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traeskapa
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That is what you normally call "handwriting."
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Handwriting is lame btw.
legion_rat
/notsigned what would be worth it. i agree with magmared here.
~the rat~
~the rat~
Shayne Hawke
PvE + Competition = PvP.
So, what you aim to do is really quite impossible. Also, MagmaRed does have a good point on not really being able to have a good reward.
/notsigned
So, what you aim to do is really quite impossible. Also, MagmaRed does have a good point on not really being able to have a good reward.
/notsigned