Japan:semi-isolated district

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

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Clan Dethryche [dth]

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/signed. Factions might become the most popular campaign again.

El Presidente

El Presidente

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Custer Was Ganked [7th]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarlinBackna
EDIT: For those who can't understand, nekopowa said don't be impatient and that (s)he is not Japanese, but understands it(?) (I think, not sure about the last part, don't know those characters)
Yeah, said (s)he is studying Japanese...

~ /signed and hopefully implemented soon!

onigiri

Ascalonian Squire

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to SPURLUXE

ナイス提供石 =P

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Reading japanese is the worst part.

I'm like Mugen(無限) in Samurai Champloo(サムライチャンプルー), I barely can read the hiragana kana 'no' (の), XDDD.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekelon
I hardly ever see more than 1 districts worth of french/german.
Thats because you play on differetn times as we do.. I usually see at least 2 or 3 LA districts adn maybe 5 Kamadan Districts at peak times in Germany.

/signed for the suggestion. I dont see Japan as having any laws which would prohibit them interacting with other countries as I communicate with companies there nearly every day and I know they are a relatively liberal country to the outside.

Edit:@ MithranArkanere Japanese Written language would be Kenji (Sp?)

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

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Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

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/signed

If they don't want to loose their Japanese players fast action is required!

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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behind you

bumble bee

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We welcome all players all over the world no boundaries please.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

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Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

YES FREE JAPAN, MOONSPEAK AND CARD CRUSHAR!!1
/signed.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

actually they have 3 forms of writing....hiragana, katagana and the chinese looking characters are kanji. katagana is for foreign words and if you learned them you can usually sound out what they are talking about, hiragana is for words that they just dont have kanji for but are part of the language. Kanji can be very hard to read as some have lots of different spoken sounds (and once you think you have learned them all you teachers says nope its xxx ).
Yes I lived in Japan for 2 years, never got good at the language as I was an english teacher (they WANTED me to speak english---that's what I got paid to do)...but I did pick up a lot of it while I was there.

either way I hope this gets resolved soon...(and no I dont need a foreign guild tag )

Wyat Hawke

Wyat Hawke

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Solidarity brothers!

...oh wait, wrong forum.

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miskav

miskav

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None

Mo/

/signed,
That honestly sucks for you.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Don't they have access to international districts? So aren't they like, not completely isolated?

But regardless, Anet just had a couple of major events. Like others have said, just be patient.

Esprit

Esprit

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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/signed

Hope they do it for GW1 soon and hopefully GW2 will allow players from across the world to interact from the start.

[M]agna_[C]arta

[M]agna_[C]arta

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Philippines, LSGH

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Jackita

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Chile

Acolitos de Loki

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enxa

enxa

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Novi Sad, Serbia

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Im all up for it, but i dont see how would charracters with names in Japanese symbols merge with the world that only knows latin charracters?
How would we whisper these people? Invite them to a party? How would we adress them?

"Hey you, Japanese guy! No, not you, the other one! The other other one!"

SPURLUXE

SPURLUXE

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Japan

Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
"Hey you, Japanese guy! No, not you, the other one! The other other one!"
lol, how do you do to Taiwanese or Korean named characters?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
Im all up for it, but i dont see how would charracters with names in Japanese symbols merge with the world that only knows latin charracters?
How would we whisper these people? Invite them to a party? How would we adress them?

"Hey you, Japanese guy! No, not you, the other one! The other other one!"
Have you ever been in a Russian district?

In those cases, you must be the party leader have a free slot in the party. Then target the character you want to whisper to, copy the name from the party invitation text box and paste it in the whisper name text box, and done.

Nyree

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Brazil

The DeathBlow Team

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/signed If you guys give me some sushi! heh!

ecirbaf

ecirbaf

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

I think over a year ago I asked about the possibility of joining Japanese districs, or to play with Japanese people if I bought the Japan box.

Glad to see this happening.

I'm also studying Japanese and while I don't expect to learn much in game because it would just take too long to translate while playing, I thought it would be great to just hang around and try to understand what players are saying.

I wonder though.. will we be able to type Japanese as with the IME (Input Method Editor), for those that don't know when the IME is activated in Windows, you can for example type with your alphabet "sakana" or "sushi" and the actual kanji-based Japanese word will appear (it's a kind of auto-complete).

I was amazed to see it working inside the game in international districts so far.

Don't know if this will ever get to the DEV's ears but I must say I am very impressed by this feature (and always have been by the quality of GW in general).

To my knowledge, this is one of the few really mainstream games where you could communicate with people from Asia? Am I right? Perhaps that's also possible in other titles from NCSoft (LineAge etc?).

I'm amazed that you can even switch langauges in the game so easily and so fast.

Now onto the Japanese in itself. A lot of it ends up as "katakana" which is a phonetic transcript for borrowed(loan-)words. This is because many of those words come from the game vocabulary and are not really found elsewhere. I wonder if native Japanese translators did the Japanese text? I suppose yes, but you never know.

So yeah to take MithranArkanere's example with Russian player names. Technically if you knew how to pronounce the person's name, say for example "erika" (yes it's Japanese not Nordic), then by typing with the IME you would end up with 恵理香. Well in theory.. have to see if the IME handle people's names and place names well. But the way this works in Japan and on Windows IME is that once you enter the name, it remembers so next time you type "erika" it knows what kanji to use. Did I confuse anyone? I hope I added a little interest to the Japanese version.

PS: on a semi-serious note... do we get jailed if we /yell "democracy!!" in a chinese district ? >_<

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

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oh man sure!

/signed for jap guys, I love japan

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURLUXE
lol, how do you do to Taiwanese or Korean named characters?
Taiwanese is a dialect of Chinese. Just FYI.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere
oh man sure!

/signed for jap guys, I love japan
If you really do, please don't call japanese men "jap," it's considered offensive. Use jpn if you want to abbreviate.

And finally, /signed. It'll be sad if GW loses its Japanese fanbase, even if it's rather small.

Voltaic Annihilator

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Maybe they will do another pearl harbor j/k

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

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Now comments like that are just unnecessary..

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

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The Land of Hyrule

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Aight sorry, didn't really know that, then.....

/signed for jpn guys :P

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Taiwanese is a dialect of Chinese. Just FYI.
You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who believe that Taiwan is just a province of China, would you? The classification of the Taiwanese language is a politically-charged topic; I would be careful about tossing around statements on the subject as though they were established fact.

newgame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Taiwan is one country on earth(everyone know different "made in taiwan" not "made in china",taiwan dollar not RMB)

Taiwan player sign/ (IF Japan player want other region player can go to japan region)

nekopowa

nekopowa

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Croatia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarlinBackna
Wow....even after only 2 years of Japanese 3 days a week, I was able to understand that! I am okay at Japanese, but got better as I went to Japan for 2 weeks on a school trip. It was amazing, and I tried to tell my host student about Guild Wars. So I pull up Wikipedia (JP, of course) , type Guild Wars, and lo and behold, I find out that Japan pays monthly for GW. I guess that is the way they operate in Japan....I just don't see how all the people in Japan like the subscription model. That's what made it so popular in the States and elsewhere....

But it would be nice to play in the Japanese district, considering it is the only other language I can understand. /signed

Boku wa nihonjin to issho ni osobitai desu!! (I want to play with Japanese people!)

EDIT: For those who can't understand, nekopowa said don't be impatient and that (s)he is not Japanese, but understands it(?) (I think, not sure about the last part, don't know those characters)
Don't they have both prepaid cards and the option to buy full chapters? I think that's what I've read a while ago.

Yeah I said: Don't worry. (about the merge) I'm not japanese, but I'm learning the language.
You're learning longer than i am. I'm self-taught on and off, as much time allows, for about a year
がんばってください!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
If you really do, please don't call japanese men "jap," it's considered offensive. Use jpn if you want to abbreviate.
Hehe, that only works for American Japanese, people who are living in Japan don't really care/know about that.

Varkovsky

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Join Date: Jan 2008

The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who believe that Taiwan is just a province of China, would you? The classification of the Taiwanese language is a politically-charged topic; I would be careful about tossing around statements on the subject as though they were established fact.
The language they call "Taiwanese" is very similar to the dialect spoken by Chinese people in Fujian province. This is not surprising since a large amount of Taiwanese people migrated from Fujian, which is Taiwan's neighbor. And yes, Taiwan was and would still be a part of China if the US didn't meddle with it.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
If you really do, please don't call japanese men "jap," it's considered offensive. Use jpn if you want to abbreviate.
Japanese hate racism as I am sure many people do, but it is ironic considering that Japan is an extremely racist country.

Varkovsky

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The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Japanese hate racism as I am sure many people do, but it is ironic considering that Japan is an extremely racist country.
Perhaps the word you're looking for is xenophobic?

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Varkovsky
Perhaps the word you're looking for is xenophobic?
Yes but I was trying to put it in a very... polite way if that could be achieved at all. However, I wanted to emphasize the point of the irony that is in Shadowfox1125 post.

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Varkovsky
The language they call "Taiwanese" is very similar to the dialect spoken by Chinese people in Fujian province. This is not surprising since a large amount of Taiwanese people migrated from Fujian, which is Taiwan's neighbor. And yes, Taiwan was and would still be a part of China if the US didn't meddle with it.
Funny, as my father's side of the family is from Fujian and I can't hear any similarity.

Taiwan's historical ownership is more complicated than you make it out to be. Large blocks of the population are more pro-Japanese than pro-Chinese, and much of Taiwan's infrastructure owes to Japanese occupation prior to WW2. US influence is what's keeping China from annexing modern-day Taiwan, but the US had nothing to do with China losing Taiwan in the first place.

And that still doesn't address the 'should' question. By now, Taiwan has established its own government, currency, economy, etc. The pro-China arguments that I've encountered use historical basis for legitimacy - they used to be part of China, so they should go back to China - ignoring the fact that other countries have declared independance from their motherlands before.

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Quote:
Originally Posted by guolisong
It's about integrity... I don't want to see a bunch of little countries running around.
Tell that to the Soviets. Oh wait.

Frankly, at this point the most important thing for the rest of the world is that nobody **** with their semiconductor industry. We all like our shiny electronic toys.

eeks

eeks

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Sydney, Australia

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/unsigned due to wasting half my money on your drink vending machines. Who puts irresistable vending machines in temples, anyway?!

.. I kid. /signed.

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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merge everyone into open language districts! (will need to figure out a way of reducing ping/lag though)

SPURLUXE

SPURLUXE

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Japan

/resurrect the thread
I want you guys to know this matter.
Imagine if Lion's Arch has only #1 dist and you are the only player there.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Uh, dude. This problem was fixed months ago.

kokuou

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/Me

No it wasn't.
They opened up Chinese and Korean districts to the rest of the GW world, but the Japanese district is still isolated.

Prokiller88

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

A/

/signed for obvious reasons, and the asian districts are pretty empty wouldn't hurt, I don't think there would be any law that would violate anet's terms and conditions.