I've yet to try this.. maybe one of you can

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

29 Apr 2008 at 15:31 - 1
So i was thinking... to solo raptors.. something like..

12 shadow arts
12+3+1 domination
3+3 FC

Me/A

paradox (optional?)
shadow form
Cry of Pain
arcane echo
energy surge
mindbender
small hex of your choice (like ether nightmare.. its kinda a long cast but meh)
optional (like Finish him! for the boss)

im thinking something like this could run in, grab aggro, and echo the CoP, toss out two of those, the e surge, and have them all dead (if they have r10 SS). i currently have a measly r5 SS, and even thats enough to really take them down.


i was also thinking something with mist form might work, but idk...


anyone with a nice rank wanna give this a try? this could be a new, super fast way to kill raptors in HM... for mesmers no less

KartMan

KartMan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Grand Line

Plz Use R Instead of Q for [req]

29 Apr 2008 at 15:49 - 2
hi,
I doubt it works in HM, you wouldn't do enough dmg for the duration of shadow form imo, and also energy surge is elite so ... ^^
I'd rather go with 16 illu and wandering eye
it should probably work in NM
otherwise you could go the classic Me/E way

Celestial_Kitsune

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

29 Apr 2008 at 16:11 - 3
This is the fastest way to kill raptors in HM, including the boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGHtClLtDA

You can find other farming builds for HM in Dopefish's Guide.

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

29 Apr 2008 at 16:33 - 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by KartMan
hi,
I doubt it works in HM, you wouldn't do enough dmg for the duration of shadow form imo, and also energy surge is elite so ... ^^
I'd rather go with 16 illu and wandering eye
it should probably work in NM
otherwise you could go the classic Me/E way cry of pain deals 100 damage at r 10 SS rank, and you use it twice.

nestlings have like 250 hp. e surge deal nearly 100 damage at 16 spec. i dont see how that wouldnt be one fast enough (CoP 1/4 second cast and surge+FC is like 1), and two, strong enough...

btw, esurge is a very good elite...


if my theory is correct, Shadowform after you aggro up with mindbender should take less than 15 seconds, shadowform up, cast you hex+arcane after (should be about 2 seconds total), then cast both CoPs (less than a second) and esurge (with after cast, about a second)... thats like a 35-40 second run, with all of your casting once SF is up being no more than 6-7 seconds total, if not less. i dont see how thats even comparable to the nearly 3 minute Me/E run you were showing me.

im just saying, its an idea. i think someone should at least try it out.

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

29 Apr 2008 at 17:11 - 5
Energy Surge+SF = Two Elites? Huhwhat?

I did it in NM on my mes with VwK+Physical Resistance. No boss though. Phooey. The Visages make lots of pretty purple numbers pop up.

KartMan

KartMan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Grand Line

Plz Use R Instead of Q for [req]

29 Apr 2008 at 17:11 - 6
the point is how do you equip with shadow form AND energy surge ????

I don't know exactly how much hp the nestlings have, but seeing them as level 25 in hm, I would not expect to kill them with 200 dmg
I'm going to test a few variants and let you know (in nm probably, I doubt it will work on hm though :/)

edit : tested the following in nm and works fine, just need to pickup stuff quickly but can't kill broodmother

[build shadowarts=12 inspiration=4 illusion=16 deadlyarts=0][deadly paradox][arcane echo][shadow form][spirit of failure][cry of pain][wandering eye][/build]

ps : I have r10 ss so my cop did 100 dmg, when I used it on broodmother, it only took 1/10 or 1/12of his bar

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

29 Apr 2008 at 17:54 - 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by KartMan
the point is how do you equip with shadow form AND energy surge ????

I don't know exactly how much hp the nestlings have, but seeing them as level 25 in hm, I would not expect to kill them with 200 dmg
I'm going to test a few variants and let you know (in nm probably, I doubt it will work on hm though :/)

edit : tested the following in nm and works fine, just need to pickup stuff quickly but can't kill broodmother

[build shadowarts=12 inspiration=4 illusion=16 deadlyarts=0][deadly paradox][arcane echo][shadow form][spirit of failure][cry of pain][wandering eye][/build]

ps : I have r10 ss so my cop did 100 dmg, when I used it on broodmother, it only took 1/10 or 1/12of his bar yeah, see what you guys dont realize is that im an idiot. what i meant to say was LIGHT OF DELDRIMOR. not esurge. but again. im a total moron lol. the worst thing is, i didnt even catch myself after saying it multiple times.

anyhow. it would look more like:


deadly paradox (optional?)
SF
mindbender
arcane echo
CoP
LoDel
small hex
magikarp is an epic failure
you could also take wandering eye for even more damage, but this is like already 300 something, so i dont see why.


well... this is about as embarrassing as the time i spelled my own name wrong on a typography test LOL.