Lowest possible reqs for max weapons

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

We're not going to have a back-and-forth "debate" on whether things still drop that lacks zero evidence aside from a single statement by a PR rep. If you can prove it, great; if you can't, stop posting. The thread is about what exists, not what drops, anyway.

Evoc Silenti

Evoc Silenti

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mo/

Yes I know what you mean. The only reason why <9 requirements are worth anything is rarity. If you have so much money you don't know what to spend it on, then Req: 7 is the way to go. For eveyone who likes to make every cent count, then the exact same weapon only 5k-50k as aposed to 100k+50e is always the best option^_^.
But I have personly seen (and taken screenshots) of r7 items.
Ie. Ive seen a r7 15^50 celestial sword. I think a r7 15% -5 somthing or other, mabye brute, or mabye it was daodo sword, doesnt matter.

Arsalan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Dunno if its too late but http://awooga.org/images/m7v14ufy2pktsicpjm.jpg

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

heres a req 7 earth scroll ive had since before nightfall

req7scroll.jpg

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Not sure if any of you are reading the OP, but we already know req 8's for everything exist, and req 7's for everything but bows, daggers, and wands exist.

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

R/

I binned a req 7 tyrian 14>50 Scimitar the other day as it was customized for a deleted character. I could have probbaly got a good price for that.

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

I think i have seen req7 zodiac daggers in the high end before

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

What we are missing is a screen shot of a Reqire 7 INSCRIBED MAX item!!!

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
What we are missing is a screen shot of a Reqire 7 INSCRIBED MAX item!!!
Reason is obvious - all the req.7 items in existance have dropped before the 25 Oct '06 update.

Fallen SeraphiM

Fallen SeraphiM

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Hell

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
Reason is obvious - all the req.7 items in existance have dropped before the 25 Oct '06 update.
None cant confirm that.....

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Yeah, you never can know have some r7 dropped after, someone who have just bought nightfall and got r7 max insc from burried treasure and merch'd after? you never know.. most ppl think they havent dropped after, but that cant be confirmed by players

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki
Yeah, you never can know have some r7 dropped after, someone who have just bought nightfall and got r7 max insc from burried treasure and merch'd after? you never know.. most ppl think they havent dropped after, but that cant be confirmed by players
You are right, we can never be sure.

I've been keeping my eyes open for R7 max weapons (any) and I have not seen them for ages. The same is true for other players I'm keeping contact with.
I know they have always been rare and there are other reasons players might not find them. But so far there has been no proof of any recent R7 max weapons, regardless of color.
And I know I'm not the only one here on guru.

In the end we just don't know.
It could be that all the R7's that dropped were merched by new players or players who are unaware of their rarity.
However, that also happened in the past and from that period are known R7's around.

The difference? Less players playing in certain areas with relatively high drop rates of the R7's.
And certain farming spots nerfed that had a relatively high chance of producing them.

Or... they stopped dropping, possible until proven otherwise.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

I found a Req8 Shield from a HM chest in Rragar's Menagerie. Maxed offcourse.
It's on Command I think, but I have tp double check that on my heroes.

People keep telling me that it's not possible but I know what I've seen.
I never took a screen when it dropped because I never dropped it would be so important. There were other people in the team when it dropped.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

We know req 8 inscribable shields and offhands drop; I have a few.

As far as req 7s go, I don't see why you all would insisting they might drop when no one has seen them drop for a couple of years now.

Fallen SeraphiM

Fallen SeraphiM

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Hell

None

After all q7 drops in tyria(proph) and cantha,and im pretty sure that there are q7 celestial drops every day cose ppl play that part of the campaign.
Its not about 'lower drop rate',its about how many ppl play campaigns,prophercies is almost dead,of course that ppl rarely get q8 item,and q7 is far more rarer.There are just not enough ppl who would play this 2 campaigns,so there are much more less q7 drops than 2 years ago

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
We know req 8 inscribable shields and offhands drop; I have a few.
Yes, but in that other thread people told me that R8 can't drop anymore since Nightfall. So they lie?

Fallen SeraphiM

Fallen SeraphiM

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Hell

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ate of DK
Yes, but in that other thread people told me that R8 can't drop anymore since Nightfall. So they lie?
Yep...........

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Req 8 inscriptions definetly drop.

Non inscriptions have been depated though, there was a big thread a while ago on it but either way they are definetly rarer.

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

I'm quite sure req7 still drops. Got a req6 11nrg blue focus in Prophecies 2 months ago or so, so req7 should be still possible for max. items, too. It's just that the parts of Tyria where req7s used to drop quite often aren't that popular anymore. Not many guys playing in the Djungle or the Desert. Easy -> low monster level -> low req drops.

Anyway req7 Celestials still seem to become more common, I see them every day, that's why I think req7 can still drop.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I have a blue *inscribable* req6 11ene focus. Does that hint at the possibility of a req7 12ene to have a dropping chance?

Nope, in no way.

There's no linear tie between base energy value and minimum allowed req. It should be obvious that with Focus energy values ranging from 7-12 (min req >0) the scaling won't be a simple linear 1ene-to-1attrib.

All they did to the reqs in that infamous update was a simple +1!
They changed the minimum allowed req for a max itemlevel from 8 to 9. The base stats of items below max itemlevel aren't hard coded into any table, they're generated by interpolation from a set of parameters, one of which being that number 9, instead of 8 before the update. The effect of this change is smaller and smaller the lower level the items affected are, till point zero.

Oh, and there's NO difference between the algorithms for generating the base item stats between the oldschool and inscribable items. The probability for a say level 19 blue shield to be 16 armor and req.8 is the same, no matter where in the world it dropped.

carnage-runner

carnage-runner

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada, B.C. Vancouver. aka.. amazing.

[Sith]

W/Me

Non-inscribables:
Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Bow - Req 7 went on guru like a year and a half ago. think it was 15/-5.
Daggers - Req 7(i've seen enough, true so have you..)
Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168)
Wand - Req 8?
Focus - Req 7
Shield - Req 7

Inscribables
Sword - Req 8
Axe - Req 9?
Hammer - Req 9?
Bow - Req 9?
Daggers - Req 9?
Staff - Req 8 guy in kama was sellin one last week. Check it out i guess.
Wand - Req 9?
Focus - Req 8
Shield - Req 8
Spear - Req 9?
Scythe - Req 9?

R7's "don't" drop anymore. We can't be sure, but I'm just gonna say it... We know that one, max, hasn't dropped gold in years... That has been detected.

Not sure what else to say..

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

There was a Summit-Axe req8 inscr. in a German Price Check forum about 2months ago. I don't know if it was fake though. Maybe someone could check the screen?

I asked the guy ingame to show it, offering him 100e, but he told me that he had sold it for 100k+10e in kamadan before. Don't know.



Screen: http://gw.buffed.de/forum/attachment...d=1213443 656

Thread: http://gw.buffed.de/forum/showthread...gipfelaxt+req8

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

its shopped i think. look at the entire line of the "requires 8 axe" and you can see just a hair of a box shaped end showing on the map. look even closer and you can see it running through the whole line.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

It's badly shopped; the requirement text isn't lined up correctly with the rest of the line.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Yeah its fake, no argument on that

_Todeshand_

_Todeshand_

I <3 unconditional

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ascalon City Int. 1

Ashfords Last Heirs [olsq]

Ok... just saw it, too - requirement line is a bit higher than the damage line, sorry :/

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
I have a blue *inscribable* req6 11ene focus. Does that hint at the possibility of a req7 12ene to have a dropping chance?

Nope, in no way.
I am sure I have gotten a r7 curses 12 nrg inscribable blue skull brush.
I can't prove this, and since you won't believe anything without proof, Have a nice day.
Used to find r8 foci quite common, have a few remaining if anyone wants. (prot, death).