Inde for CRM 08

Foe

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jesus Christ.. never mind. Someone could start a thread about their favorite car and you freaks will be arguing about hotdogs with in 2 posts. Also, thanks to all the sub-genesis's for pointing out that Inde wont be uprooting her entire life at the behest of the forums. Thats crack detective work retards. Somebody close this. My bad for forgetting with whom i would be interacting.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Requirements I don't have from the list:

- Bachelor's degree (though did graduate from college)
- 1-3 years experience working in community management, online journalism, marketing, or related field (I don't think Burger King and math/science tutor count here)
- Familiarity with Web 2.0 technologies a plus (just not familiar...)

Because of the lack of those requirements, a good handful of people could easily be worth choosing than me.

Ontopic: Inde herself would have to decide if she wanted to do this. If she has and would, hey, more power to her.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

You make it sounds like its easy to be a Community Manager.

Hint: CM is a full-time job. i.e. Inde cannot run Guru if she becomes CM. Plus the whole relocation thing...

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I dont want to punish Inde with that.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Inde has a job, Inde has a son, Inde has a life. I don't think she's interested in changing her career.

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Inde can handle it, look at how guru is doing... even with all the idiots and QQers.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

I'd recommend Inde for President, but we'd have to remove Indes brain first .

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

If Anet hold back till 2009 I will be qualified to be their CRM. And you all know I'd to a hell of a better job than the last few they've picked.

But since that won't happen, I vote another bad CR person will get the job.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
But since that won't happen, I vote another bad CR person will get the job.
I have an actual chance that... wait... bad... I'm more inexperienced, but there's hope!

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

one other requirement that *wasn't* posted, and a reason Inde, or someone like him wouldn't get the job, is because they need someone who will roll over for the devs, know when to stop asking questions or demanding answers, and is most comfortable playing the middle ground as well as possible using meaningless babble.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
one other requirement that *wasn't* posted, and a reason Inde, or someone like him wouldn't get the job, is because they need someone who will roll over for the devs, know when to stop asking questions or demanding answers, and is most comfortable playing the middle ground as well as possible using meaningless babble.
It's really freaking HARD to stay in that middle ground, and it's hard to know the great things coming down the pike but not be able to TELL people, and it's hard trying to make a playerbase that is never happy, well, happy. I don't doubt for one minute that Gaile kept asking the questions, but guess what? Part of working in software is KEEPING SECRETS.

I think the requirement that should have been posted is "must be able to deal with rude players who are never pleased no matter what". :P

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
I dont want to punish Inde with that.
QFT Why would you want to punish Inde for doing such a good job on Guru?

Besides, I don't think anyone from within the GW community will ever want the CRM position, given what the know about how horrible we can sometimes get. Heck, Regina came over from XFire, she doesn't really know what she's in for.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Bring a CRM for a company, is I would imagine very different to being an independent commentator on the game. It's Like being a moderator on a forum(since they represent the BBS) you cannot just go about telling people anything you want, there are certain responsibilities and burdens you have to bear to do the job with integrity and honesty.

For example

I've had the honor to meet Gaile, when she was not 'being public Gaile' and she was much more natural. Gone was the cageyness and weight that knowing every single word she typed or said would be read by thousands and in it's place was someone of wit, charm and openess. It was clear that she *wanted* to be open and charming Gaile all the time, but because of the job she had chosen to do, there were times when for the good of the game.herself and Anet that could not happen

This is'nt being two faced but there is a gravitas to that position that means you cannot always be as you are all the time. It's a conflict that can get tiring for everyone.

Not every wants or thrives on that sort of conflict, most people are content not to have to wear two hats(public facing and the real you) and that's fine.

Good CRM's(and forum moderators) realise that not being buddybuddy with people, being impartial, showing respect to everyone and sometimes having to tow the line even when you don't want to is all part of doing the job well.

I know Regina is doing a grand job, not rushing things but carefully taking baby steps as she learns the role, and whoever takes this role as part of that team will need to do the same.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Managing a community of gamers like GW's is a fast ticket to a mental institution. I am surprised anyone would want this job, and I hope the pay makes up for the years of therapy.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
* Bachelor's degree
Check.
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* 1-3 years experience working in community management, online journalism, marketing, or related field
Management, check.
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* Strong writing skills
Hellz yeah!
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* Excellent communication skills
Lol.
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* Commitment to collaboration and teamwork
Sure
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* Strong sense of ownership and agency
Sure
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* Ability to work flexible hours, including evenings and weekends as needed
Check.
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* Passion for Guild Wars
I LOVE PVE. I WILL BE A GREAT SUCCESSOR TO THE MIGHTY GAILE GREY.
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* Enthusiasm for and deep knowledge of online gaming communities
Check.
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* Familiarity with Web 2.0 technologies a plus
Check.

Damn. I should apply for this

Though I think the game designer would be cooler for me.

wraithe

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

N/Me

why?
did our new CRM quit?

seems pointless to suggest..

besides we love Inde where she is...

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Damn, got in too late. Although the edited version of the OP is nice.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
Managing a community of gamers like GW's is a fast ticket to a mental institution. I am surprised anyone would want this job, and I hope the pay makes up for the years of therapy.
My guess is doest.

e.g. Alex Weekes.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Somebody close this.
Okay!