Pure Disasta
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Originally Posted by Pure Disasta
PVP - RA
Sure, go ahead and assume - if you're blind.
zling
this build FAILS even in RA...
I dont understand how you got so many attribute points, unless you're running like 2 superior runes which is suicide... your only damage is Vow of Strength, very very bad... Heket's Rampage isnt the best IAS available, heck stick with Heart of Fury and free up your BM slots and your secondary profession... Antidote is meh... Mending Touch and Remedy Signet are better if you want a self sufficient condition remover... the rest are blah, guess they're there due to having Vow of Strength but it still doesnt make them good, especially Aura of Thorns...
Magikarp
im not going to lie, VoS is awful for pvp for the most part, and i wouldnt even suggest it in pve if you want to have much fun at all spamming enchants and autoswinging...
if you REALLY want to use it... try this... VoS Hekets charm comfort animal disrupting lunge vital boon sig of pious light res 10+1 earth prayers 11+1+1 sythe 10 beast whats left in myst its wasteful of your primary tbh, and to get some extra *ok* damage, that's easily avoidable, isnt worth it. dervs have way more to offer... Pure Disasta
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Originally Posted by zling
this build FAILS even in RA...
I dont understand how you got so many attribute points, unless you're running like 2 superior runes which is suicide... your only damage is Vow of Strength, very very bad... Heket's Rampage isnt the best IAS available, heck stick with Heart of Fury and free up your BM slots and your secondary profession... Antidote is meh... Mending Touch and Remedy Signet are better if you want a self sufficient condition remover... the rest are blah, guess they're there due to having Vow of Strength but it still doesnt make them good, especially Aura of Thorns... 2 Superior Runes lol? high priestess anya
WARNING ONLY FOR EXP PLAYERS. THIS IS A PRO BUILD AND WILL TAKE SOME MASTERING
try dervish with these skills: D/A way of perfection, shroud of distress, mystic regen, mystic vigor, victorious sweep, mystic sweep and rez sig.. for your elite you could use vow of silence (but monks wiill hate you even though you heal yourself up to 150 per enemy within scythe range with each hit) or any avatar, i preffered dwayna.or even ebon dust aura.. if you use vow of silence you can time it where you can maintain all enchants whilst being immune to casters, i like using it to interupt their spells also bare in mind you will need 30+energy.. if you can get good at swapping between vamp, zealous and armor penetraing scythes you will have a lot of fun, especially in RA. i was accused of hacking many times when no one could hit me because of shroud of distress and i was immune to spells :P scythe mastery=15/16 earth prayers=8 mysticism=9 shadow arts=5 watch out for mesmers with sig of midnight, man i rage when i see mesmers...i mean like....RAAAAAAGE Also shattering assault from assassins, these are the only skill swhich will hurt this build also you could swap mystic sweep for cripple sweep since it got nerfed
Keekles
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Originally Posted by high priestess anya
try dervish with these skills: D/A way of perfection, shroud of distress, mystic regen, mystic vigor, victorious sweep, mystic sweep and rez sig.. for your elite you could use vow of silence (but monks wiill hate you even though you heal yourself up to 150 per enemy within scythe range with each hit) or any avatar, i preffered dwayna.or even ebon dust aura.. if you use vow of silence you can time it where you can maintain all enchants whilst being immune to casters, i like using it to interupt their spells also bare in mind you will need 30+energy.. if you can get good at swapping between vamp, zealous and armor penetraing scythes you will have a lot of fun, especially in RA. i was accused of hacking many times when no one could hit me because of shroud of distress and i was immune to spells :P scythe mastery=15/16 earth prayers=8 mysticism=9 shadow arts=5 watch out for mesmers with sig of midnight, man i rage when i see mesmers...i mean like....RAAAAAAGE Also shattering assault from assassins, these are the only skill swhich will hurt this build also you could swap mystic sweep for cripple sweep since it got nerfed |
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Originally Posted by milkflopance
2 attack skills, no IAS, no snare/IMS, way too defensive.
Risus's build was much better than that. Also, please dont ever claim a build to be "pro". Especially when it's bad. He says it pretty well there... I'm going to add: 15-16 master = fail. Drops your hp too much to be worth it. People in RA are stupid, just because a bar is useful in RA doesn't make it good. I've gotten 10 wins with just frenzy and healsig on my bar, does that make that skill bar useful? No. Turbobusa
Ignore anya...
OT auto attack on a dervish is really a waste seeing as you have plenty of useful energy based attacks, and you can even abuse the warrior ones at will...which makes VoS a pretty bad elite for that purpose
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Magikarp
im not going to lie, VoS is awful for pvp for the most part, and i wouldnt even suggest it in pve if you want to have much fun at all spamming enchants and autoswinging...
I totally agree!! In PvP worste things for dervish are actually eles, necros and most of all mesmers. VoS for it's fast casting, but not so easy usage, it's a very good elite in RA i always run my normal VoS build, which make me take no dmg from casters, no hex. The only hard thing with VoS build is when u have a both casters and meele on you: regeneration is not enough against a meele and if you got VoS on you only can heal with skills like signet of pious light or similars (that are very few in derv skills). But the point is that when casters realize they cannot target me they simply lose lot of time running around and finding others targets which make me kill them very quickly!
My build in RA: [vital boon] [mystic regeneration] [mystic sweep] [crippling victory] [wild blow] [heart of fury] [vow of silence] [resurrection signet] sundering gazing scythe of enchanting, customized,+ 15^enchat. mysticism: 12 scythe mastery: 12 earth prayers: 11 requires at least 30 energy! Turbobusa
VoS here was Vow of Strength actually.
your build ain't bad but it looks like you have more than one sup/major do you?
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Turbobusa
VoS here was Vow of Strength actually.
your build ain't bad but it looks like you have more than one sup/major do you? Well.....it wasn't spicified so  I actually don't have any sup/major rune..... mysticism: 1 rune+1 armor piece+ the rest are attribute points scythe mastery: 1 rune+ the rest are attribute points earth prayer: 1 rune+ the rest are attribute points health: 555 energy: 31 
high priestess anya
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Originally Posted by Turbobusa
Ignore anya...
OT auto attack on a dervish is really a waste seeing as you have plenty of useful energy based attacks, and you can even abuse the warrior ones at will...which makes VoS a pretty bad elite for that purpose i was searching for near immortality....and this builds does that... slap on cripple sweep or swap rez for dash and BOOM!! i have had 5 private messages from people who have tried this build and say it works well. but the key thing is to time your enchants right so you can maintain all enchants including VoS. this build pwned about 8 enemies at the same time in AB i need no criticism from guru-heads when this build has been put through the test of fire. before you judge, try it yourself please. :P quoting keekles: No offense but... Quote: Originally Posted by milkflopance 2 attack skills, no IAS, no snare/IMS, way too defensive. Risus's build was much better than that. Also, please dont ever claim a build to be "pro". Especially when it's bad. He says it pretty well there... I'm going to add: 15-16 master = fail. Drops your hp too much to be worth it. People in RA are stupid, just because a bar is useful in RA doesn't make it good. I've gotten 10 wins with just frenzy and healsig on my bar, does that make that skill bar useful? No. ..end quote.. 15-16 scythe mastery is needed to be effective at killing, without this any enemy monk would undo your hard efforts. as for the "lack of hp"... +4 regen permanently +80hp per attack per enemy hit... +20hp from crit per enemy... +25hp per hit from mystic vigor... 75% chance to evade phys attacks... near immunity to spells.. please...lol you guys are funny :P
Cebe
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Tyla
Fails to be honest. Major / superior runes are bad in PvP unless you're aiming to hit a breakpoint with significant value. There is also no deep wound and self heals are quite bad in PvP unless you're a split character. If you don't have a Monk your chances of glad points are slim.
Oh and Anya, you're kind of bad. The extra whatever from superior runes is minimal at best. You can use them for PvE, but the health loss isn't worth it as I'm concerned. Having Scythe Mastery at 15 / 16 will entail you're throwing away survivability, and in PvP you want as much health as possible. Same goes for armour, but your build itself is just a complete failure because you're casting enchantments half of the time, you're dealing no DPS as long as the Monk knows what he's doing (e.g kiting), and the same goes for other professions. You also have no deep wound or utility. Your Monks should be the primary source of survivability, but you should be killing, not casting a shit load of selfish survivability enchantments. high priestess anya
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Fails to be honest. Major / superior runes are bad in PvP unless you're aiming to hit a breakpoint with significant value. There is also no deep wound and self heals are quite bad in PvP unless you're a split character. If you don't have a Monk your chances of glad points are slim.
Oh and Anya, you're kind of bad. The extra whatever from superior runes is minimal at best. You can use them for PvE, but the health loss isn't worth it as I'm concerned. Having Scythe Mastery at 15 / 16 will entail you're throwing away survivability, and in PvP you want as much health as possible. Same goes for armour, but your build itself is just a complete failure because you're casting enchantments half of the time, you're dealing no DPS as long as the Monk knows what he's doing (e.g kiting), and the same goes for other professions. You also have no deep wound or utility. Your Monks should be the primary source of survivability, but you should be killing, not casting a shit load of selfish survivability enchantments. try it then judge... some situations require only two of those enchants... you dont have to spam em constantly and most of the time i cast 2 only then chase something to kill... example: 4 casters:- mystic regen+VOS 4 melee:- shroud of distress+mystic regen+mystic vigor 2 casters+ 2 melee:- shroud+regen+VoS you can use all enchants for when you have lots of degen as it fights against it and you can still maintain +4 regen with poison and a few others. seriously this build has many MANY strengths. sin skills have massive durations especially with enc+20% and never had any trouble until i dropped my sup runes for minors.. sometimes 147 dmg/505 hp is better than 89 dmg/575 hp (not to mention the +150 hp with each successful attack per person) i have had 7 personal messages from people who love the build but ask for advice on maintaining the enchants as they cant time it right with VoSi. if you like dervish give it a shot, it will some mastering but ultimately it is the strongest build i have ever used and possibly the most fun. it does provide near immortality and it DOES kill effectively run around and fight to be killed easily whilst your nub team mates just dawdle or... have a build that can make up for the nubz on your team and help you win regadless... just try it, you will be impressed. you will be accused of hacking and you will be accreditted by the opponent for your build. i cant count the times i was told my build was excellent by opponents.. |
