I was sitting on the toilet a while ago when I got hit with an idea (Like I usually do in that room).
It's probably been discussed/suggested tons of times, but it's a Dark Pact spammer using [Aura of the Lich], [Masochism], and [Dark Pact]. With one Superior Rune (Blood or Death) and no Vigor runes or Survivor insignias, AotL cuts your health down to approx 202. Since AotL effectively quarters sacrifice, you'll be taking 10 damage whenever you cast Dark Pact, which some health regen (Meaning you'll either go N/Mo or get it from an external source) will heal up quickly.
It's probably best in a team with a strong frontline so nothing will creep up to the backline to own you. If it does happen, AotL and a friendly monk will help keep you alive. (In other words, most likely low-end PvP and some PvE.)
So, any thoughts? And if it's an okay concept, any ideas for the other 5 skills?
Edit: Dark Pact can be spammed about 10 times every 20 seconds, meaning you lose 100 health in that time frame. If you recast AotL on recharge, due to a bug, you'll gain health when it would have ended, or every 20 seconds (Since one copy will end at that interval). Thus, without any outside damage, you can stay alive indefinitely.
Random Concept....
Sora267
Powerful White Man
Stronger concept: [assassin's promise][mark of pain][barbs]
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Powerful White Man
Stronger concept: [assassin's promise][mark of pain][barbs]
that is like saying that a b-surge is bad because a warrior does more damage.
concept is nice, however I would use a sup vigor =)
Would use heavy health regen to help versus the sacrifice. and some energy heavy skills to dump your energy in.
concept is nice, however I would use a sup vigor =)
Would use heavy health regen to help versus the sacrifice. and some energy heavy skills to dump your energy in.
zling
ummm... Dark Pact isnt so powerful that you need to make an entire build devoted to spamming it...
heck you dont even need AotL inorder to use Dark Pact effectively, aka Blood Spike...
nice try mister but you still FAIL!
try again later, when you're not in the toilet :P
heck you dont even need AotL inorder to use Dark Pact effectively, aka Blood Spike...
nice try mister but you still FAIL!
try again later, when you're not in the toilet :P
Sora267
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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
that is like saying that a b-surge is bad because a warrior does more damage.
concept is nice, however I would use a sup vigor =)
Would use heavy health regen to help versus the sacrifice. and some energy heavy skills to dump your energy in. Sup vigor would make you sacrifice more, which would make the sacrifice a little harder to heal. But, it could work (I haven't tested this yet.).
concept is nice, however I would use a sup vigor =)
Would use heavy health regen to help versus the sacrifice. and some energy heavy skills to dump your energy in. Sup vigor would make you sacrifice more, which would make the sacrifice a little harder to heal. But, it could work (I haven't tested this yet.).
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Sora of the Divine
Sup vigor would make you sacrifice more, which would make the sacrifice a little harder to heal. But, it could work (I haven't tested this yet.).
more health is needed, but you need to fine the the best possible point for health. 640 is bad, but so is 55 ..
Would use Blessed Insignia's with one superior rune. This will let you have 455 health. Saccing 11 health every cast, which can be easily outhealed with the regen from blood renewal.
some build:
[build prof=Ne/Mo name="kekeke" Sou=10+1 Blo=12+4 Dea=8+1][Dark Pact][Aura of the Lich][Masochism][Foul Feast][Strip Enchantment][Blood Ritual][Blood Renewal][Resurrection Signet][/build]
however this is still bad: you are devoting a bar to spam a very mediocre damage spell. A warrior auto-attacking does more damage, heck even flare spamming does.
Would use Blessed Insignia's with one superior rune. This will let you have 455 health. Saccing 11 health every cast, which can be easily outhealed with the regen from blood renewal.
some build:
[build prof=Ne/Mo name="kekeke" Sou=10+1 Blo=12+4 Dea=8+1][Dark Pact][Aura of the Lich][Masochism][Foul Feast][Strip Enchantment][Blood Ritual][Blood Renewal][Resurrection Signet][/build]
however this is still bad: you are devoting a bar to spam a very mediocre damage spell. A warrior auto-attacking does more damage, heck even flare spamming does.
System_Crush
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I was sort of surprised at the use of a shadow damage skill for this myself.
If you want to spamm something this way, use a life steal instead; [[Jaundiced Gaze] fits the bill, except it costs a tad more energy, but nothing you can't cover with Arragodons or SoLS.
A life steal will be way better at getting through defenses and could be at least a tiny bit effective.
Oh and don't use [[Foul Feast] with AotL if you don;t have a way to quickly get rid of the conditions, AotL makes degen hurt twice as much.
Sora267
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Originally Posted by System_Crush
+1
I was sort of surprised at the use of a shadow damage skill for this myself.
If you want to spamm something this way, use a life steal instead; [[Jaundiced Gaze] fits the bill, except it costs a tad more energy, but nothing you can't cover with Arragodons or SoLS.
A life steal will be way better at getting through defenses and could be at least a tiny bit effective.
Oh and don't use [[Foul Feast] with AotL if you don;t have a way to quickly get rid of the conditions, AotL makes degen hurt twice as much. Yeah, Jaundiced or [[Blood of the Aggressor] might work better, I wasn't thinking hard when I was, erm, sitting there. It was one of those "Oh!" things that I thought might be semi-decent.
I was sort of surprised at the use of a shadow damage skill for this myself.
If you want to spamm something this way, use a life steal instead; [[Jaundiced Gaze] fits the bill, except it costs a tad more energy, but nothing you can't cover with Arragodons or SoLS.
A life steal will be way better at getting through defenses and could be at least a tiny bit effective.
Oh and don't use [[Foul Feast] with AotL if you don;t have a way to quickly get rid of the conditions, AotL makes degen hurt twice as much. Yeah, Jaundiced or [[Blood of the Aggressor] might work better, I wasn't thinking hard when I was, erm, sitting there. It was one of those "Oh!" things that I thought might be semi-decent.
Cathode_Reborn
Dark Pact was actually good when it was 70+ damage. Now that it's reverted, it's junk again =\
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
Dark Pact was actually good when it was 70+ damage. Now that it's reverted, it's junk again =\
Haha, still its not as bad as it used to be.
Gredinus
[build prof=N/D name="Test Build" box blood=12+1+3 soul=9+1 earth_prayers=9 desc="Weapon: +5 energy/20% enchantment melee weapon"][Jaundiced Gaze][Blood of the Aggressor][Dark Pact][Vampiric Spirit][Masochism][Mystic Regeneration][Conviction][Resurrection Signet][/build]
This is a build I have been working on for fun...
This is a build I have been working on for fun...
Sora267
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Originally Posted by Gredinus
[build prof=N/D name="Test Build" box blood=12+1+3 soul=9+1 earth_prayers=9 desc="Weapon: +5 energy/20% enchantment melee weapon"][Angorodon's Gaze][Blood of the Aggressor][Dark Pact][Vampiric Spirit][Masochism][Mystic Regeneration][Conviction][Resurrection Signet][/build]
This is a build I have been working on for fun... That doesn't look too bad, actually. Maybe bring something like Chillblains to condition yourself for the +energy from Angorodon's.
This is a build I have been working on for fun... That doesn't look too bad, actually. Maybe bring something like Chillblains to condition yourself for the +energy from Angorodon's.
Gredinus
Jaundiced Gaze works beather...
Yobs
LOLZ its an Aura bomber without the dark aura?
btw what is a good Aura bomber nowadays with the sac skills coming down...might have a look at it again. I wonder how it would go on destroyers as it all cuts through armor. Yeah Sin's promise and other stuff still better but Aura bombing is funny as hell.
Yobs
btw what is a good Aura bomber nowadays with the sac skills coming down...might have a look at it again. I wonder how it would go on destroyers as it all cuts through armor. Yeah Sin's promise and other stuff still better but Aura bombing is funny as hell.
Yobs
Pyro maniac
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Originally Posted by Yobs
LOLZ its an Aura bomber without the dark aura?
you're right. >.<
I knew the build looked familiar ...
[Build;OApjYgFKBTFCGO0ByBbhzB+XCAA]
I knew the build looked familiar ...
[Build;OApjYgFKBTFCGO0ByBbhzB+XCAA]
snaek
[dark aura] would be nice
which means u would have to get close, soooo...
[touch of agony] + [wallow's bite] would be better
only reason to run [dark pact] would be if ur runnin [vampiric spirit]
and with [masochism] ur energy will sit at 100% the whole time
which generally isnt terribly great
consider ways to utilise ur energy more effectively
or jus dun bring [masochism]
perhaps [unholy feast] or even [vampiric touch]
maybe [mystic regeneration] or [mirage cloak]
or even [mystic sandstorm] to trigger the heal from [aura of the lich] to trigger when u get low
which means u would have to get close, soooo...
[touch of agony] + [wallow's bite] would be better
only reason to run [dark pact] would be if ur runnin [vampiric spirit]
and with [masochism] ur energy will sit at 100% the whole time
which generally isnt terribly great
consider ways to utilise ur energy more effectively
or jus dun bring [masochism]
perhaps [unholy feast] or even [vampiric touch]
maybe [mystic regeneration] or [mirage cloak]
or even [mystic sandstorm] to trigger the heal from [aura of the lich] to trigger when u get low