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Please convince me to play a paragon!

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Mr Pink57
Mr Pink57
Krytan Explorer
• #21
Quote: Originally Posted by odly
Please don't play a nerfagon.

Paragon's have been so badly nerfed that the only build left to play relies completely on auto attacking the nearest target and spamming a PvE only warrior skill. No. Its people showing that stupid build every time a thread like this pops up.

[Cruel Spear] [Stunning Strike] [Song of Purification] [Focused Anger]

All great options preferrably [Cruel Spear], its my NM elite most of the time.

pink
Sab
Sab
Desert Nomad
• #22
Quote: Originally Posted by odly
Please don't play a nerfagon.

Paragon's have been so badly nerfed that the only build left to play relies completely on auto attacking the nearest target and spamming a PvE only warrior skill. Cruel Spear
Stunning Strike
Defensive Anthem
Song of Restoration
Empathic Removal/Expel Hexes
Ben-A-BoO
Ben-A-BoO
Wilds Pathfinder
• #23
300 half naked men born to penetrate others with spears ... nuff said.
toastgodsupreme
toastgodsupreme
Wilds Pathfinder
• #24
If you want a class where you only have a couple builds to choose from, go paragon.

If only they'd make the class a bit more flexible, I'd play mine. That and change the female dance. Absolutely horrifying. >_>
MasterSasori
MasterSasori
Desert Nomad
• #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
I know you can do it, so please motivate me to keep playing my paragon. Sit on my shoulder and whisper in my ear telling me about how awesomely awesome paragons are, how much they rape enemies and how much better off I'll be with a decent paragon. 1. High DPS that rivals warriors
2. 80 AL armor
3. Best Defensive support in the game
4. Unremovable chants and shouts
5. Ranged
6. Permanent IAS
7. Awesome in both PvE and PvP
8. Easy to play
9. One of the few classes that can rival Ursan
10. Imbagon
Ec]-[oMaN
Ec]-[oMaN
Desert Nomad
• #26
Quote: Originally Posted by MasterSasori
1. High DPS that rivals warriors
2. 80 AL armor
3. Best Defensive support in the game
4. Unremovable chants and shouts
5. Ranged
6. Permanent IAS
7. Awesome in both PvE and PvP
8. Easy to play
9. One of the few classes that can rival Ursan
10. Imbagon 1# Should be; most boring class to play no matter the skillset, besides a bonder.
MasterSasori
MasterSasori
Desert Nomad
• #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN
1# Should be; most boring class to play no matter the skillset, besides a bonder. How many builds have you played? If you find it boring I doubt you are using it correctly.
kostolomac
kostolomac
Jungle Guide
• #28
It's hard for the paragon to compete with warrior in dps due to the strength attribute imo , but being ranged is a good advantage.
MasterSasori
MasterSasori
Desert Nomad
• #29
Quote: Originally Posted by kostolomac
It's hard for the paragon to compete with warrior in dps due to the strength attribute imo , but being ranged is a good advantage. No paragons can get pretty close to the damage of a warrior and partly because it is ranged.
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lustnlood
Academy Page
• #30
ok guys... there probably isnt a greater para fanatic than me so i just want to say that its true paragons have been nerfed big time and have come to be almost useless and unwanted... BUT... when in a para team.. get ready to fight hell itself... i play mostly HA and just to see how an 8 man paragon team can stomp over any given build is enough to prove that they are the godmode of this game(when together)

'nuff said!
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
• #31
You'll know you're playing the class that ruined pvp and guildwars it self!

fun am I rite?
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lustnlood
Academy Page
• #32
not rly... its stupid to say that... just like other classes have their strengths... the paragon's strength is a team... if you really believe that then pls just hit uninstall and go play runescape
miskav
miskav
Jungle Guide
• #33
lustnlood, your point is invalid.

A paragon's strength is a team?
You are ALWAYS in a team, except for when you farm solo.
That should be an advantage to everyone, not just a ''Oh yay, we are ranged warriors who can use /godmode everywhere'' Thing.


All in all, I don't dislike para's, aslong as they don't run lame builds that ruin the fun :P
T
Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
• #34
Quote: Originally Posted by lustnlood
not rly... its stupid to say that... just like other classes have their strengths... the paragon's strength is a team... if you really believe that then pls just hit uninstall and go play runescape It IS true.
Paragon's, although with all the nerfs are still imbalanced, and you'll be extremely stupid to say otherwise.

I'm not ONLY on about PvE, either.
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Adja1005
Frost Gate Guardian
• #35
A lot of people on GWGuru seem to have a dislike for Paragon's because their "imbalanced" however i still don't agree with the general opinion that they should be nerfed.

I think a lot of people forget that the whole point of a Paragon is to provide immense party support in a defensive manner while still being able to deal out high DPS which is also another way they support the party. Nerf their defensive skills and they'll just be warriors chucking spears. Nerf their DPS and they'll just be like an Ele/Mo but without the huge energy pool.

Not to mention that GW needs another option for high end PvE other than Ursan. An 8 man Imbagon group can be just as effective as an 8 man Ursan group and sometimes be even more effective due to them not relying on HB monks.

I think people generally seem to dislike Paragon's for being a class that can fit two roles in a group at the same time instead of being limited to just the one role. Whats wrong with a high DPS and great defensive ability all in the one class? Do we all want to stay limited to using Ursanway and HB monks?
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canthar
Pre-Searing Cadet
• #36
I've been a lurker here for a long and played guilds for way too long now. The paragon quickly became my preferred class after Nightfall came out. Prior to that it was a Necor, then a Sin with Factions. I like my Paragon because I normally h/h everything. I normally play in the morning hours (EST).

For them being overpowered, when I took my Paragon to Factions and did Viz square the glorius local team got wiped just as I got to Togo. I finished the mission with just my group of h/h and no deaths. This was before SY! and I still do not have or desire SY! I hate the grind. Paragons can be insanely powerful and fun if you like the play style. I've seen just as many Para's who hate them because they don't know how to play them or it's just not for them.

Play and try, if it is not for you, you'll know.
Bront
Bront
Wilds Pathfinder
• #37
Quote: Originally Posted by kostolomac It's hard for the paragon to compete with warrior in dps due to the strength attribute imo , but being ranged is a good advantage. Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSasori
No paragons can get pretty close to the damage of a warrior and partly because it is ranged. Exactly.

Because they don't have to move, they can change targets quicker. They only reason they don't have the same DPS is usually because they are occasionaly chanting, and don't attack when they do that (for some chants).
Mist Walker Skarloc
Mist Walker Skarloc
Frost Gate Guardian
• #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Pink57
No. Its people showing that stupid build every time a thread like this pops up.

[Cruel Spear] [Stunning Strike] [Song of Purification] [Focused Anger]

All great options preferrably [Cruel Spear], its my NM elite most of the time.

pink Thanks for this, I'll try using Cruel Spear in a DPS build until I get "SY!" and a decent sunspear rank for "TNTF!" since it's a very early cap.

By the way, what are people's thoughts on a Furious Spear? I know http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869 recommends a 5/1, 15^50, +30 spear but would my furious, 15^50, +30 not be better for quickly charging "SY!"?
Mr Pink57
Mr Pink57
Krytan Explorer
• #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
Thanks for this, I'll try using Cruel Spear in a DPS build until I get "SY!" and a decent sunspear rank for "TNTF!" since it's a very early cap.

By the way, what are people's thoughts on a Furious Spear? I know http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869 recommends a 5/1, 15^50, +30 spear but would my furious, 15^50, +30 not be better for quickly charging "SY!"? Doesn't mattter.

14 Spear
12 Leadership
9 Command
[Cruel Spear] [Spear of Lightning] optional ["Never Surrender"] [Anthem of Flame] ["For Great Justice"] [Aggressive Refrain] Res

["Go For The Eyes"] or ["There's Nothing To Fear"] is my usual optional. Can take [Anthem of Weariness] over [Anthem of Flame] especially against destroyers.

Can take [Spear of Fury] over [Spear of Lightning] if you have conditions flying around to fuel [Cruel Spear].

Can drop res for ["I Am The Strongest"] but I would max Norn before you do that for +20 death.

Puts out decent dps with a bit of party support.

pink