New Player Here, need info plz and ty

Hey guys/girls,
I currently play WoW, but after 4 lvl 70s, it has just gotten boring. I was cleaning my room the other day and found GW:Prophecies and was curious if was still a good game, and I just wanted to ask a few questions, so here goes.

What are some opinions of yall's about it?
What are some of the things to do after you hit lvl 20?
Is there any endgame content like in WoW?
Is the PvP aspect balanced?
What expansions should I get?
Is the community friendly?
And any other things you want to throw out there would be nice.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

What are some opinions of yall's about it? It's a good game for the 1st year or 2.
What are some of the things to do after you hit lvl 20? Farm, Grind titles.
Is there any endgame content like in WoW? DoA, UW, Ellite missions, Dungeons, HM
Is the PvP aspect balanced? lol
What expansions should I get? NF, Heros.
Is the community friendly? sometimes.

I dont play much anymore, just go on and talk 2 people.

1) I love Guild Wars 100%

2) Go for titles, different armor, cooler weapons, filling up my Hall of Monuments, getting a rainbow phoenix.

3) Yes

4) They try to keep it as balanced as possible by tweeking with the skills at some points to see how it changes the game.

5) There is only 1 try expansion,but 2 other campaigns. Each has its own different pro's and con's.

6) Depends on the actual gamers themselves. I think it is a pretty good community in friendly terms, but i have seen some pretty mean players in my day.

Other things) WoW must DIE!!!!





P.S. Other things) <--- Joke

It's dead/dying. PuG's are almost non-existant, and fail when they happen (unless using & abusing ursan). PvP has been ruined by crap skill balances that are then reverted to please PvE'ers (LOL).

- Work on titles (grind).
- PvP.
- Elite missions
- Farm (grind)

Haven't played endgame WoW myself - but there are no raids in GW.

Not anymore. Full of gimmick builds with lame scrubs playing them.

Only Eye of The North is an expansion - all the other 3 are standalone. Everybody has their personal favourites, but i'll sum each one up for you:

Prophecies: Longest campaign, better learning curve. You will have trouble finding PuG's there now though.

Factions: Shortest campaign. Introduces Alliance Battles (12v12 PvP).

Nightfall: Decent sized campaign. Heroes (customizable henchman, essential if there are few humans around to help).

Eye of The North: Buy this if you have ran out of other things to do. Lots of grind.

In general, not really.

This game will be getting no new content updates. It will mainly only be getting bug fixes due to most of the design team working on GW2. Pick up another game that has a dev team dedicated to it.

After you hit twenty, you are able to continue playing the mission-based game until you reach the last mission. Upon completing this you can obtain end-game weapons, and then pick up quests that follow-up the completion of the mission. However, other campaigns of Guild Wars have end-game rewards such as armor, as well as end-game weapons.

For Pvp, you bring the build, and it's totally pure luck on the game you join. It takes a build to take on a build, so, yes, the pvp is balanced, if you bring the correct skills.

For campaigns, I will briefly explain the basics of each.

Factions:
End-game armor, and an end-game pet for your ranger class
Easy farming spots
Easy starter area that provides quests with BIG experience rewards
Easy access to max armor and elite skills

Nightfall:
Access to End-game armor, but no armor for Assassins or Ritualists.
Heroes, which are party members in which you choose the skills, stats of armor, and weapons for, are a unique way to play the game
There are chests that do not require any keys to unlock. These chests give out decent cash, as well as a bonus item such as a weapon or crafting material

Eye of The North:
Suggested once you get the hang of things. You do get heroes, but at a slower pace. There are nice skills to learn for pve usage. Armor is snazzy as well, since the price is 33% off most Elite armors, with the trade of earning reputation.

The community is friendly, just make sure you do not stay in particular outposts for a while and listen in on nasty arguments. :|


Opinions:
Well, seeing that this game provides NO MONTHLY FEES, no spawn camping, and no more waiting for the healer, I say Guild Wars is quite the game. It provides a decent tutorial, and provides great rewards in the end. The best part of Guild Wars is that you only need money to get what you need. This means that you do not have to spend it on repairing stuff or getting a griffon to fly you somewhere. Guild Wars has collectors, which can provide you with equally good stats.

You should give Guild Wars a try. I'm sure you would like to see yourself saving $15 a month as well as enjoying a MMO such as this.

If you have more concerns just ask, and someone will answer, without the attitude.

Wow.

Discard anything this joker says, if you would like a realistic perspective on GW.

Let's not forget how loot scaling made it difficult to get money, whilst fixed prices such as armour sets, stayed the same price.

What are some opinions of yall's about it? Still love it.

What are some of the things to do after you hit lvl 20? Complete the game, finish off titles, move onto PvP.

Is there any endgame content like in WoW? Yes.

Is the PvP aspect balanced? Right now Izzy (Skill balancer) isn't doing a good job of it.

What expansions should I get? NF has heroes, GW:EN has heroes. They're still retarded, but they're still better than your average PuG and at least 50% more efficient than henchies.

Is the community friendly? Alot of it I've found are stupid and immature. A guild would solve this problem.

@Dan -- Nice catch there.

1.- It's the best game and it will get better. Otherwise I won't be playing it. Although there are a couple of things to fix, I'm positive they are going to fix them.
2.- Continue the Campaign, ascend, access to PvP, hunt for equipment, quests, missions, BMP, challenges,... most of the game is played after level 20.
3.- All the content is Endgame! Once you beat the game, you gaing access to Hard Mode!
4.- GW has the BEST PvP EVER. Period.
5.- There is only one expansion. You should acquire everything for the best enjoiment. 3 campaigns, one expansion and the Bonus mission pack.
6.- No, we are not, we hate you. But you learn to live with it. Once you lear to filter out those that want to scam you it's not so bad, though.
7.- There is currenlty a grind problem. But it's only a problem for pure GW players. Outsiders will find GW grind like... well... like getting from leve 1 to 40 in most other games.

Uhh what? I don't think there's a problem getting money unless you don't know what to do maybe....

Eye of the North, also known as get 100k in a week being a casual player. It's extremely easy to make a good sum of money doing a few things here and there in EotN. So as long as the OP gets that game he won't have problems.

ITT: bitter, burnt out people.


At the OP, go for it, it is free to play, if you do not like it quit.

Why is this so hard for people to say?

I've played the game for almost 3 years and still do. From time to time I get bored with it, just like anything in life you do a lot but I still keep playing.

Most of the game's content is for level 20 characters anyway.

Be aware that on forums like these there tend to be a lot of ex players who still find it useful to spend their time complaining about how the game sucks. Apparently they haven't found something better to do.

If you are asking if GW is a game that never gets boring...well I think that doesn't exist. But yes GW is a fun game with lots to do to keep you busy for a while.
Some improvements can be made and a lot of us hope GW2 will bring some of that. In the mean time, I haven;t found another game that I like more and I have tried a few beta's and bought a few games in the last couple of years.

You dont have to pay monthly fees so you have nothing to lose. Play it and realise that it will have some cool things and that you will miss a couple of things from other games...but then it is another game. I just enjoy it for what it is.

coming from WoW i think your going to be incredibly disappointed if your looking for good pve content after lvl 20.

Is the community friendly?


If I ever see you asking a stupid question, I will smite you down with God's force.

Great game, well worth the money, its diverse enough and can exp a wide variety in a little time, you cna then play hundreds on hours more.

Once you hit lv.20 your jsut starting the game( except in proph) theres a ton of missions, Hard mode missions (HM) and vanquishing ( killing everyfoe in an area in HM), titles and pvp

yes but not as big as wow, jsut some elite areas and aobve mentioned.

more blaanced then WoW i think ( only play as a lv.70 mage though)more variety too.

Nightfall and factions are both good fun
[quote]Is the community friendly?[/qoute]
the majority would be i;d say but the voices most heard are the little kidddies (ingame)
the forunms are pretty good too.

Have fun

I'd imagine most of us love it if we're posting on a fan forum

Unlike most other RPGs, leveling is not an important part of the content in GW. In short, you'll spend almost all of the game at level 20, the progression comes from increasing your own skill, and expanding your options.

You will spend most of main campaign at max level, so that's not the endgame. However, there are still a lot of things to do once you finish the actual campaign. You can go through the entire campaign again in hard mode, you can head to a few endgame areas - Sorrow's Furnace, Underworld, and Fissure of WoE. However, there aren't any great equivalents of raid content in Prophecies, and even in the other campaigns it's limited.

It certainly has its problems, but in large it's the most thoroughly balanced game in the genre. Unfortunately, you are at a disadvantage if you only own one campaign. You can spring for a skill unlock pack, or just pick up the old campaigns on the cheap if you want to get into serious PvP.


Prophecies, Nightfall, and Factions are all seperate games fully functional on their own. GW:EN is an expansion only functional with one of the others. I'd play through Prophecies first, and if you like it, grab one of the other games. They're pretty cheap now.

Guilds and alliances are friendly. Random people are not, and will call you awful names until you cry. Take a look at the guild forums on guru, they're a good place to start.

If you haven't played it before, it is very fun and addicting.

Course it does get stale after 3 years, but really....that is a good life for any video game.

I find it funny that a few of these posts include two things- Bashing GW & Ridiculing it's dying population.

What made me smirk is the fact that not many people realize that one might just well be the reason of the other. Hell if I was a potential buyer, and people told me the game sucked- I wouldn't pick it up.

Aside from that, to the OP. Try it since you already have it, play it first before asking for opinions.

For what it's worth, the equivalent of achieving level 70 in WoW is something akin to getting rank 5 on the maxed titles track. It is almost possible to get there without performing a single repetitive task, which is defined as doing the same sequence of actions repeatedly to increase a particular statistic. Some people would claim that, for example, killing every enemy in hard mode on every explorable area is fundamentally repetitive, and they have a point, but the areas do present unique challenges which keeps the gameplay interesting.

PvP is a whole different ball game. Some aspects of it are as stale as last year's laundry, but it still manages to surprise me on a continual basis. Figuring out why you just got owned, and then devising a counter to it and subsequently turning the tables can be deeply satisfying, much more so than I ever felt possible in my (short) experiemnt with WoW. But others will have different opinions.

Level 70 would be more akin to getting rank 1 of KOABD. It takes a good 1-2 months of dedication.

WHAT? People causing their own problems than complaining about it?

I say try it out for yourself - I am a 2+ year player now. I don't play as much as I used to, but some aspects of the game I still really enjoy. It's a beautiful game, I find it mostly relaxing (a little anxiety playing in PUGs, but usually it's nothing that sitting in a town seeing how people act can't solve for me), there's a lot to do depending on what you like doing, there's room for different kinds of playstyles, lots of reasons to play.

For the playstyles, you can just play the game, and since it's not endless content, you can try out a lot of different classes. That's not to say there's not much content - I found there was quite a bit, and I *still* haven't done everything. You can play with other people or on your own (if you like playing with lots of other people, find yourself a good guild). You can pursue titles, you can farm, you can PvP, you can try out new builds, go play in the elite areas. I still keep finding new things to do.

I think your best bet would be to play and see what you think. It's great that there's no monthly fee so it's easy to walk away from at any time if you need some time away from it. Since you've got the original, keep in mind that later games do change game play, and the graphics are (in my opinion) better in the later games.

A lot of people have become rather disillusioned for varying reasons (I can offer speculation, but really don't want to here ), but it's been my experience that the game has quite a lot of great things going for it, and it'll keep you busy for at least a year if you enjoy it. Maybe longer if you REALLY enjoy it. So give it a whirl, have some fun, and let us know what you think!

coming from WoW i think you would find GW pvp as epic as its pve is utterly mindless. Sure many of us complain about balance but gw pvp is far more complex and evolved than what you are used to. Generally the people here just regurgitate sh*t they read anyway. As a new player these "imba" skills/mechanics will work in your favor and 99% of the population never get good enough to where it effects them in any legitimate way. You already have the game, /install and roll a pvp only toon and start tinkering around in random arenas, you'll be hooked fast. If Pve is your thing basically every other game on the market is superior.

1) You're on a GW fansite, I think our opinions will be just a tad bias here. But it has to be said, that your experience playing GW will not be the same as WoW. Its a great game, once you've adjusted to some of the things that make GW unique from other mmos.

2) Everything before lvl 20 can be considered a tutorial. Since you are starting on Prophecies, the tutorial comes in two stages and is rather long, but once you get to lvl20 the real meat of the game can begin.

3) There are dungeons and other challenging stuff. But nothing like the massive raids you get with WoW.

4) Depends on who you ask. Imho, the devs are certainly trying.

5) Sticky you can read.

6) Lol. Its as good and bad as the WoW community can get. Like someone said, find yourself a good guild and you can solve most of this problem.

7) Official and unofficial wikis are a treasure trove of info.

enjoy the game, have fun, be courteous, guildwiki is your friend. read the common scam section, you can find almost everything about guildwars's there, all the missions walk thru, quests walk thru, tips and tricks, keep your login name and password safe, have fun, don't buy online gold you'll get ban, have more fun. Take screen shot, when lost always check your Quest Log and follow the primary quest to advance in the game. don't take run from marketplace to Kaineng Center, its a walk in the park. Which i just remember you don't have, its one of the other 2 campaigns, which i think you should get, because its worth it. Don't get kill if you want to go for the survivor title, which requires your character to not die until you reach certain experience points.

sorry for the paragraph, I don't like points question survey type of thing.

I think it's a great game.
Well the real game begins at lvl20, everything before is just practice. At level 20 one start to focus on getting the right build for the right situation.
Dungeons, DoA, FoW, UW, the Deep, Urgoz. Also at the end game the title grind begins for those who want it.
I'd say get each chapter in the order the came out, to get the storyline in the right order. But the nicest things are in the latest: GW:N & GWEN
over all yes, sure there are some nasty people here too, but it's a more mature group than the WoW players *shudder*

Totally agree.

I think the biggest question you should ask anyone here is: Do you regret the time you've spent playing GW?

I doubt that anyone (being completely honest) would say no. I've got around 2,000 hours on my account (with around 200 spent AFK, though), and I don't regret a single minute. I may get bored with it from time to time, or upset with a change here and there, but I still enjoy it a lot when I do play.

At this point in the game's life, much like you with WoW, many 'vets' have become quite sour, and the community as a whole is getting just plain grumpy and bored stiff. Still, you can find quite a few people out there who are just lovin' GW as if it's brand new, and for some it probably is. There is always new players coming in, and I'm sure you'll run into many just like yourself, ready to explore all this game has to offer. I have to warn you that many on these forums are of that grumpy 'vet' category. In-game will show you a more tolerable, and even sometimes enjoyable community on average.

For the chapters/expansions, I'd suggest Prophecies and Eye of the North, which come as a neat little package in the Platinum edition. Prophecies is an excellent game to start with, and EoTN provides some excellent content once you hit level 20 (although you can start playing it once you hit level 10, I'd suggest going through Prophecies first to get your feet wet). Once you're satisfied with those two, dive right into Factions and Nightfall, which are both fun in their own right.

The main difference is that in GW the game starts at level 20, and not raiding for gear like in WoW.

You cannot level up or make things easier with much better gear, so most content stays up to date.

Prophecies is an exception - many areas are designed for chars lower than level 20, and levelling up is slower. Nightfall and Factions have much more content aimed at level 20 player and only very small starter areas that quickly level you up.

It is very hard to get into the game now, and the community is not really going to help starters that much.


This said, I am always coming back to GW from WoW after a month or two.

four level 70's huh, nice!

The game has serious flaws, the community has serious issues with rudeness, greed and abuse. Despite this the game has some very good and fun qualities that make it worth playing. It gets boring and frustrating after awhile, but its a really good experience in the mean time.
You continue to gain experience after level 20, apon gain of a new level you gain a skill point which can be used to buy new skills, or used buy a capture signet, which is used to capture (cap) elite skills.

farming monsters for drops, Unique items and Rare items (green/gold) and magical runes to use on yourself and your heroes.

Farming title points from monsters and quests, Gaining titles in Eye of the north and Nightfall grant bonus abilities for specific things.

Beating each campaign unlocks Hardmode, Hardmode is tougher than normal mode, but drops better loot and larger gold amounts (IIRC about gold)

In Hardmode you can beat the missions again to gain a new title. Hardmode also has Vanquishing in alot of explorable areas.

Factions has competitive battles that lets you fight in a PvP style and gain Faction Points which can be used to unlock another two (IIRC) titles.

Running the globe removing the "Fog of war" darkness grants you another title.

Hero Battles and Challenge missions are another optional feature along with PvP.

I'm sure I'm forgetting things, But there is a lot to do after you attain level 20.

The only End Game content I am aware of is the reward areas. After you beat Proph,Factions or nightfall you are sent to a special area with lots of NPC's are collectors, You normally get a special Item to trade in for a new green weapon or shield or focus.

I guess Hardmode would also apply to end game content, As you must beat the game in order to access Hardmode. You must complete each installment to access HM(hardmode), Beating just one installment does not open up Hardmode for all installments.

Yes, Guildwars is a very tournament promoting game, PvP offers prizes to the top combatants and/or top guilds who win. Skills are constantly updated, Sometimes not for the better.

Gw Eye of the north is the only expansion, Factions and Nightfall are the other installments you don't have. Nightfall and Eye of the north offer heroes, So i would suggest getting those two before factions to gain an advantage if you liked playing with henchmen.

In my experiences in the past 2 1/2 years, I would say its 40/60, 40% nice people, 60% jerks.

The events are fun, Pve(storyline) is fun, PvP is fun (even though I dont pvp) and the new eotn mini games are interesting. Its worth adding to your gaming collection, But the game is getting older, and some areas are vacant of players, so you will either need to solo those areas, get help from friends or guildmembers.

Good luck!

This game has kept me entertained for nearly 4000 hours of play time in 36 months with no monthly fees. The game still has new blood coming into it and there are plenty of active guilds that offer support to beginners. The cool thing with GW's is that its fast and easy to reach max lvl. and with a good guild,you can start doing elite missions in no time making good money. The pve side of GW's is not mindless and keeps evolving with many upper echelon pve guilds competing for the fastest times in Elite missions. Pvp is very balanced and at this point in guild wars it would be wise to buy all 3 stand alones and the expansion as i have seen offers for as little as 100 dollars for all of them. Buying all 4 will give u access to all the skills u will need to get into highend pve. I do agree that little to no new content is going to be released but hopefully A-net can produce a Sorrows Furnace type update which is free and offers some kind of stimulus for us veterans of the game. I hope i did not digress too far from topic

To give a bit of context to my answers, I played both WoW and GW - played WoW in beta, then bought GW, played GW until just over a year ago, switched to WoW, got 2 70s there, but only raided a couple times, didn't like it, got to high 1700s in arena before I realized how broken WoW PvP was and quit 3 months ago. After about a month of not playing an MMO, came back to GW.

Prophecies is the best part of GW IMO.
GW doesn't actually have levels. 1-20 is a tutorial (a tutorial that is much longer in prophecies than in any other part). The game starts at 20. Things you can do are: PvP, Hard Mode, grinding one or more titles, "elite" areas (FoW and UW in prophecies)... farming? I don't really know if there's anything else people do in PvE. I mostly PvP.
If anything past 20 is endgame, then most of GW is endgame. All of hard mode is "endgame", pretty much under any definition. There's no raids like in WoW.
Far from perfect, but much better than WoW. GW PvP is also more fun at the basic level than WoW PvP IMO. In WoW all you need to do to succeed is 1) play an overpowered class combination (warrior+druid 2v2s, anyone? lololo) and 2) micro your 50 abilities well. You win in WoW by not letting the other team play - the entire game is balanced around CC. In GW, CC is virtually nonexistent compared to WoW and snares are much weaker which makes the gameplay a lot more fun.
Proph --> Nightfall --> Factions ------------> EotN, in order of importance.
In my experience, GW community is quite a bit worse than WoW overall. It's connected to the Internet, and as such, the majority of the people will be idiots and/or assholes.

I had 3 max level characters when I left WoW.

Level 20 is just the beginning of the game, and the end of the Tutorial. The game is HUGE, if you buy all chapters/expansions. All Missions/Stories are repeatable, because of Hard Mode, all content is re-playable; you'll never level beyond your favorite area. I'd expect you'd need to play about 1500+ hours to complete most of the content on a single character (titles included, thus some grind required).

Instancing is very advanced for a 3 year old game, so advanced in fact that Age of Conan (in Beta) has copied many of the best features.

End Game is the entire game because of Hard Mode. . . . Small Raiding can be done with many players or just a few players and many Heroes.

Having been an avid PvPer in WoW, I can honestly say Guild Wars PvP is so well balance, comparatively speaking, that there is really no comparison. PvP environments and World PvP make WoW more casual and a bit more accessible and less elitist. Twinking and stat grinds in WoW make WoW completely unplayable in a competitive sense, (though it is still fun at times)

The game is entirely different from WoW for a reason. Arena Net was founded by ex Blizzard top level employees who left during the development of WoW. Seems they saw things differently; these devs took the MMO concept in an entirely different direction, much less grind, more access, non-stat driven gameplay. Gameplay is designed around Skills--player skill and in-game skills (Not stats, as are Evercrack styled games.) Stats can be tweeked, but only for tactical/strategic advantage. The game is not stat driven, so expect to be disappointed if you thive on advancing numbers/power to out level and conquer content.

Almost everything is optional. Grinds, Titles, use of PvE skills, every aspect of how you play. Even grouping is optional. Nothing is written in stone, if you are healer class you do not have to heal, if you are a tank you do not have to tank, the holy trinity is dead. .

Guild Wars is a solid evolution from the Everquest(WoW) formula. An evolution that thrives.

Get the Trial CD and explore all the chapters, then decide for yourself.

What are some opinions of yall's about it?
My opinions are compiled Here
What are some of the things to do after you hit lvl 20?
Grind, attain new armor, most of the time a new weapon, beat a campaign, explore, vanquish, get exploration titles.
Is there any endgame content like in WoW?
There are some greens and gold weapons you can grab, not to mention some extremely expensive armor as well.
Is the PvP aspect balanced?
That entirely depends on what type of PVP you go into.
What expansions should I get?
To get the fullest experience? All of them. Well, only EoTn is an "expansion", Factions and Nightfall are standalone.
Is the community friendly?
For the most part, no. But are any of them? Assholes are everywhere.