Some questions from a Tibia player

Ok so i play Tibia for 4 years and for those of you who dont know its a MMORPG too
You can choose Pvp and No-pvp worlds
I play in a Pvp world ....but even playing on a pvp you get to hunt creatures and everything else ...
Thing is ...if someone steal your lootbag or mess with you , you can kill this person
And theres wars too between guild (clans) to control the server

So heres my questions about Guild Wars:

Do you get levels in Guild Wars?
In a PvP world ..can you hunt and gain levels?
Whats the Max. Level you can get?
Is it easy to gain levels?
If you die you lose skills, equipment? pvp and pve

Does this game have and ending? or you can play for years? getting levels..

After someone answer this few questions i will have some more ;P

Thx in advance

1. Yes you start at 1 and max at 20.
2. Pvp has no worlds just arena's, guild battles, alliance battles.
3. 20.
4. Yes.
5. Only thing that happens if you die is you gain dp (death penalty), which decreases your hp and energy, until the end of the battle or you get a morale boost. Nothing permanent happens when you die .

The pve aspect of the game which has 3 campains and 1 expansion do have endings but lots of extra content, pvp is never ending as long as you have fun doing it.

Do you get levels? Yes. 20 of them. That's the cap, but it's for good reason. Guild Wars is not about who has the highest level, or who has grinded to uber level x to have the uber equipment. Your ability to succed, or fail, will rely on your ability to adapt your skills, your use of those skills, working with your party, and reaction to situations.


In the PvP world do you hunt monsters? No. PvP and PvE are seperate. PvP is only PvP. PvE is only PvE. There are no sepertae severs like a PK server.


Max level? That's 20. Once at 20, worry not, your game doesn't end. At 20 the game really just begins. At 20 you now have all your attribute points and the fun really begins. And in PvP, the mentality of "Oh Crap! I'm only level 35, but he's level 50! I'm toast!" doesn't exist.


Is it easy to gain the levels? Pretty much. It doesn't take a lot of effort and comes rather quickly just questing and working your way through the game. If you don't rush, 20 will come even sooner.


About being killed - No, you don't lose skills, equipment, or money. In Guild Wars you suffer "Dealth Penalty" in increments of -15%. Tha means you lose 15% of HP and Energy for each death; up to a max of -60%. It doesnt stay with you forever. You gain it back by returning to a town, or by continuing on and killing enemies.


The game does have an ending and many paths to take. You can move onto Hard Mode, tackle elite missions (Urgoz, the Deep, Domain of Anguish). There's the Underworld and Fissure of Woe. You can also concentrate more on PvP if you choose.

Again, if you don't rush through the game, you'll have lots to do for a long time. If you end up getting "run" through the game, you'll get bored very quickly.

So lets say i buy all the Pve chapters ...
How long would it take for me to get level 20
After getting level 20 and doing all the quests ..game is over?

And if i buy the PvP chapter ...i dont need to gain levels cause you start at lvl 20 right?
So you dont hunt for levels ...all you do is fight ppl

Sounds boring imo ...i bet id get bored of the game after a while

Well in tibia theres no level limit and u start at level 1
Im an Elite Knight lvl 119 ...and it took me 4 years to get that level..
But some ppl can get lvl 100 in a month cause they either share there accounts or simply have no life

The player with the highest level of all worlds is Seremontis
hes a level 347 Elite Knight

I thought Guild Wars was kinda similar to tibia
Im looking for games with no level limit , games you can play for a long time without getting bored of it

Thx for the info

Depends on how much you play a day. A week, maybe two? If you're only playing a few hours a day.

And no the game isn't over at 20. Far from it. Players are level 20 long before end game content. Heck, you're 20 before halfway points.


And yes, all you do in PvP is fight others. Think of it like Unreal. They're Arena Battles; Random, Team, Guild Vs. Guild, Heros Ascent, etc.. The higher you go, the more competitive it is.

This isn't a "Oh look, low level noob! Let's pwn!" pvp game. Here it takes some actual thought.


But yeah, if you're after the generic grind game of high levels just for the high equipment, GW isn't the game for you.

In PvE getting to level 20 is just the learning phase.
Once you reach lvl 20 the game starts.
There are titles for you to max, the games will take a few weeks to beat if you are a casual gamer. Once you beat the game it isn't over, just the pve story is. Don't say pvp is boring until no one can kill you and you kill everyone in your path (which is impossible). There is skill behind it, join a pvp guild that does Guild vs Guild battles if you want, or Heroes Ascent (a team of 8 players battles other groups of 8 through certain maps until they get to the Hall of Heroes and then you fight 3 teams, whoever wins get a prize from the chest).

Level has nothing to do with anything in this game. You don't need to grind to get to a certain level to unlock something like in other games. People have been playing this game for 3+ years and havent gotten bored. And if you do get bored, you can just not play. Your account will sit there waiting for you to log back on, you won't lose anything.


EDIT: just looked up Tibia. Tibia looks like runescape, which is nothing like GW.

COMPARE:
http://static.tibia.com/images/abouttibia/witch.jpg
TO THIS:
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4281/urgoz28ab5.jpg

pve and pvp r seperate worlds...

most games, tibia too, combine them into 1 world...
gw is different, as they nearly completely seperate the 2
(pve can take their pve charas into pvp, but they r entering a 'diff' world, if that makes sense)

pve:

dun be fooled by the lvl20 cap
the game -starts- at lvl20
think of lvls1-20 of learning the game
once u hit lvl20, u get to do the fun stuffs, like get elites, make builds, obtain exotic weaps & armour, do elite missions and dungeons, etc

pvp:
like i said, its a seperate world
pvp is competitive play
keyword: competitive
think of things of like sports, and u'll get an idea of how the pvp in gw is
there r rules, u do matches, there r leaderboards with w/l stats for some forms of pvp

really...dun compare the lvl system

im quite confident that gw has nearly at least 10x the amount of content tibia has

so while yesh, tibia u can keep levelling up forever and ever...
ur essentially doin the same stuffs over and over again, amirite?

it doesnt take long to hit lvl20 in gw
but when u do...u've nearly only done less than 5% of the things u can actually do in gw

""so while yesh, tibia u can keep levelling up forever and ever...
ur essentially doin the same stuffs over and over again, amirite?""

Belive me I am really interested about GW and i do want to play it
Im just trying to get some info

You say tibia is all about getting levels. (and making quests, quests that you need a certain level to do).

Basically you hunt , get levels and skills
You can train , make runes that you can sell for money

Lets say i wake up and im really lazy ...i can simply pass my time making runes
Or get a group to do some quest

What about GW.
So far i understand you get skills and stuff
But if i cant level what will i be doing? only quests?

How many quests are there to be done?

Lets say i wake up and im lazy..
Can i make runes for money?
Can i train my char?

What will be the main point of the game eveyday i log in?
Get a group of players and go do some quest?

Thx in advance

Well it seems most of your questions have already been answered but I'll throw my 2 cents in just cuz.

Many people coming in from standard MMORPG's where max levels are very high and take a lot of work to get to are turned off when they hear GW max lvl is only 20. To them the logic is the max lvl is only 20 that can't take long to get, the game must be rather short as well. And if GW gameplay followed the formula of most other online games that would for the most part be true.

However Guild Wars takes a unique approach, by leveling the playing field such that (in PvP at least) everyone has more or less similar baseline stats (i.e. spellcasters all have maximum armor of 60, all swords have the same max damage, etc.) this way victory in battle isn't determined by simply who's higher lvl or has the more powerful weapon, but instead by what skills (spells, attacks, etc.) each player brings and more importantly how each player uses those skills. Additionally each player is limited to equiping only 8 skills at a time, this means you have to carefully think about what skills you bring.

This also puts a lot more emphasis on team play since it's hard to bring both effecient killing power and healing onto one 8 skill skillbar. The general rule of GW is that running solo is a great way to build up your deaths count.

All of this means that Guild Wars gameplay is much more about strategy and skill than about levels and stats.

That's just the gameplay, the actual game content is truley impressive, there are 3 continents (1 for each campaign) each of which features massive explorable areas, lots of story missions and tons of side quests to do along the way. All told to do everything on one continent would take months. And keep in mind that's just the PvE side, there's still all the competetive PvP aspects of the game to try as well.

All that coupled with some of the best graphics this generation of MMORPG's has seen and you have a very solid game that's kept people interested 3 years and running.

Whew that got long fast

there's more than enaugh quest i've got the game 3 years and i've not done all of em yet so that won't be a problem as you've got more than enaugh things to do

no you do not make runes for money tbh that sounds sh*t anyway you make money by farming monsters for specific loot or you do it as services etc...
you can vanquish areas in hm wich gives you allot of items.....

train your chara as in??

you lvl to lvl 20 then you've still got hundreds of skills to unlock tell me when you've unlocked all of them by either buying them or capping em or getting em thru quests and you'll get 100k from me on you IG hand^^ anyway there's just more and more and more to do you wont get bored

all you have to do is play it for a while and you'll love it

You can farm, do missions, talk to people, trade in main cities, work on titles, endless amount of things.

There are hundreds of quests to do, most people miss all the side quests and just do the main ones.

In this game you don't "make runes or train your char to lvl up his swordsmanship or w/e". Enemies can drop armor which you can salvage runes and insignias off of. When you level to gain attribute points which you can put into certain skills your character has, like swordsmanship or marksmanship.

Guildwars is also a competitive online role-playing game (CORPG) not a MMORPG. Most people won't be role playing asking if other people think the sun is too hot or if the cows are fat enough.

okie....lemmie give u a run down of some of the common things to do in gw:

quests: self-explantory, given an objective, complete it
missions: cinematic-like storydriven quests on a large-scale with scripted events
challenge missions: a short mission focusing on a specific task, and being able to do it very effectively (usually how fast)
elite missions: long missions, usually with multiple interconnecting-quests, each of the small quests have rewards, and when u finish them all, u fight the last boss for an end-chest and reward
dungeons: multi-level dungeons, where u have to find a key usually obtained from a mini-boss, to get to the next lvl, eventually facing the last boss for a reward
vanquishing: kill all the monsters in one area (anywhere from 200-400monsters) for a gold prize and title
exploring: uncover the whole map to get a title
farming: self-explanatory...solo build to gain loot and money
mini-games: various games for the fun of it, offer small prizes as well

now take all this, and u can do it on normal mode and then hard mode for a bigger challenge and bigger prize
and i prolly missed a bunch o stuffs, but oh well

and skills r a big part of the game
there over 1000 normal skills that u can learn through quests and purchasing
and over 300 elite skills that u have to kill a boss to obtain
considering ur skill bar only has 8 skills at a time...
thats a lot to play wit

(i dun wanna make this post too long...so if u want the pvp modes, i'll do it later)

Sounds to me like your main concern is, "Will I have lots to do to keep me occupied for a long time?"

If so, the simple answer is yes, but again I'll stress like I did before, if you don't rush everything.

You can absolutely wake up one day and say to yourself, "Boy I'm lazy today and don't want to hurt myself doing something severely time consuming!". I do that often!

The beauty of Guild Wars is there are things that can take a long time to do (Elite missions to name something off the top of my head), or a Dungeon in "Eye of the North". There are things that can take as little as 10 minutes as well; A simple side quest for example.

There's a wide range in this game. You can pick it up and play it for an hour before work, or school, and put it away for later. You can also spend hours upon hours at once and work away at something far more challenging.

Easy simple quests, Masters quests, Primary quests, Missions. You can explore if you want, craft your weapons, design new builds, get into some PvP if you like such as Guild vs Guild battles, engage in some trading, work on a title if you like one.


The main point of the game is up to you. If you want to quest with people, that's an option. You can go alone too with henchmen and heroes. If you want to dive into competitve PvP, you have that choice. If you want to get into the trading market, that's an option.

I think the point we're all trying to make is that yes, you will have plenty to do.

If I can add a suggestion, if you can find someone on these boards with a Trial Key for one of the 3 chapters, you can download the client from the Guild Wars website and you'll have a 10 gameplay open window (I think it's 10?) to give it a go. Or, if money isn't much of an issue, the first chapter of Guild Wars is very much affordable.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10102502

Read this before you think about buying a game first.

If you're just here to bash Tibia, don't bother posting.

Sounds good to me, but I already own them all :P hehe. Nice thread by the way. Never did see that before.

Proph is still the most affordable; merge that into the conclusion that thread states as well. It's a good buy for a budget gamer.

GW was designed so that one does not have to spend 4 years to reach lvl119(or a month lvl grinding 24/7) and still be nowhere near the top player(and I assume most powerful) in the game. Its a huge step away from traditional mmos with a low lvl cap, meant more a gauge of how much of the basics you have grasped, rather then how powerful you are. The emphasis is on how well you can make your skill bar, with elements like crafting and cooking and wood chopping removed. Its very lean in that aspect, but its kept players attentions over these last 3 years.

Is there grinding in GW? Yes, but not for lvls and not for anything that really gives you any advantage over others. If lvls are all you care about, GW isn't for you.

Ok so 1 more question...

If I buy GW Nightfall am i going to have all the maps/worlds/contents from the previous chapters?

I mean ..if I buy Nightfalls am i going to be able to play on Prophecies maps and have characters from Prophecies and all the stuff from the previous chapters?
Or to have Prophecies maps and features i need to buy and install it?

And if I buy GW Prophecies I wont be able to play on maps from Nightfall?
And to unlock new areas and contents (from nightfall) i need to buy the other most recent chapters aight?

Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall are all stand-alones. They all have their own land masses that you play on. You can link them and play across the continents for the campaigns you own. If you don't link them(or buy more then one) then you will be limited to your own campaign's continent. The pvp Battle Isles, however are accessible by all players, regardless of which game they own.

Covah's link explains it in better detail.