Who die first?

Location: Raisu Palace

The Monsters: Star burster - elementalist, ie: Star Ancient Koosun , monk, ritualist, warrior and ranger in a group, which of these do you take out first?

In my days spending playing Guild Wars, the norm is you must always take out the healing foes first. But, over time, i come to realise sometime it is not the case. In some cases, you have to take out something else beside the monk first, for instant, the above scenario, it is always advisable to pull Star Ancient Koosun out alone and kill it first before getting to the mob, and when ever you fight a mob with star burster elementalists in the them in the Divine Path, Raisu Palace, it is the elementalist that you have to get rid of first.

So what are your secret of playing a smooth game, share your tips and trips. thanks. I haven't been to all corners of Guild Wars and still have much ground to cover, I think this might help me and other alike. So, who die first?

In cases where you don't know who to take out first, you'll be the one that go bye bye first.

Just incase people don't understand, or I am unable to get what I actually want to say in this thread, please read, this is not how to kill this particular group thread, its what are your advise, different location, different made up of foes, different boss, like what Storm Alex says Blow up Koosun first. The monk and rit Shiro'ken are terribad healers you can laugh at. and so, you have to come up with your own location and group of enemies and which foes to take out first is your advise to other players.

I've come across many pug, yes I do pug, that INSIST on killing monk first (which many a time isn't the case) even if you tell them to kill FOR EXAMPLE KOOSUN first. this is such a thread, so that players know it in NOT ALWAYS the monk you have to get rid of first.

for instant, when playing nightfall, sometime instead of Word of Madness, you have to get rid of the chaos first. because chaos kills your party monk very fast. And it create CHAOS amongst your party which you don't want, when you see your monk starts running frantically around, its time you switch and get rid of the Chaos instead of insisting on killing word of madness.

kind of making pug better thread :P~ savvy?

Edited to make what I want clearer, obviously i am bad at getting message across.

I don't understand why you made a thread for this...I guess you lost against the boss? Lots of times? Just kill everything at once...fire is key.

Monk,Rit,Ele,War,Ranger. interrupt/degen/slaughter.

i solo that group lol

Blow up Koosun first.
The monk and rit Shiro'ken are terribad healers you can laugh at.

If you're really pro, you can blow up everything at once with physicals + MoP + Splinter.

If there's somebody that's inflicting enormous damage, usually an ele, kill it first. Otherwise, kill healers first. Sometimes I also kill mesmers first in the event they're shutting down MY healer.

The boss, then the ritualist, since he uses Flesh of my Flesh.

Pretty sure my post makes this discussion irrelevant. There is AoE for a reason. Blow them all up at once...

Take them all out at once, not hard.

monks, rezzers, eles, melee, the rest, usually rangers last.

depending on situation, sometimes tho i go for eles or rezzers before monks.

Greatest inhibition to victory first.

If their offense is high, you take down their offense. Likewise for defensive.

Killing monks first made a lot of sense when monk healing was far weaker on themselves (WoH target other, etc) or if you had a lot of disruption that could block healing (KDs), but for a lot of PvE groups neither is the case and you're just as well off knocking out the offense if it's any threat to you.

You just weigh where your disruption would be best used, or put a bit on the healers while you wipe the offensive targets.

There are too many variation to make a simple statement on something like this. Some Rits are awesome healers, some awesome damage dealers, some neither. Because the class doesn't always have the same skill set, you have to learn how each monster functions. This holds for groups too. Some groups have no healing, some average healing, and some amazing healing. Depending on what type of group you face, you pick a different target.

For the Shiroken groups you are referring to, I'd always go for the Elementalists first, followed by the Monk/Rit. And for the people saying to kill them all at once, I agree, but only if you can. Not all people know how to group aggro, and having monsters scattered won't allow for AoE to hit all the targets. There are several places in that mission that you can't group them all together and stay on pace to get Masters.

I go as a general rule: boss -> monk (if good healer) -> hard rez -> main damage dealer -> any foe anoying H/H -> softies

here that'd be boss -> rit -> eles -> monk -> boum

You realize that Star Burst is a touch skill that makes it unlikely that you'll be able to get the boss and the monks/rits at the same time(unless you can wipe them all with your initial attack pre-aggro)?

The dangerous one goes first ever, dont mather the class...
later
The Annoyings goes second place dont mather class...
last
The rest dont mather class

Only time and exp will show who is the most dangerous in a foe team...

Basically man i use earth.. not fire to AoE, better effects...

I try to put them all togheter, this way you dont need to focus in monk, monks will die for AoE...

I use a monk with SB, full damage monk... i use Sb in myself run first and all casters waste spells on me, if team is easy release hero/henc and kill them, if harder run back and use terrain, tank and use AeO... if you good 95% of time you will put foes togheter and kill them fast no mather who will goes first...

Agree...

sorry my weak english...

if you know that place at all, just for people who think killing the whole lot in the koosun situation is the best, let me remind you, koosun is very very pull-able. you only need to kill the one without aggro-ing the rest, then sneak pass. (for mission) for explorable/vanquish, don't go into the room, always pull koosun, it will be slightly harder.

lol @ killing the whole lot. what a waste of time.


PS: please don't just talk about koosun, if you have other ways of a faster better way to kill any type of foes, please share. thanks

The interrupt ranger attacks the healer, the rest on the most dangerous one. Locking heroes on a foe FTW. This tactic even works in PUGs

Read the op post... he not asking how to kill kossun...

i am the op. lol

Well i always say FIRE...hit them hard and fast, more damage you can do quickly the better, normally works for me!

As long as you have a good balanced group most things are easy