[sin mes;OwVUE4R5n/STQ8ILB6MmABMIgrAA]
or can use [Spirit of failure] rather than [channeling] , or [radiation field] / [ether nightmare] rather than [viper's defense]
(Shadow arts=15 with superior on mask)
After reading this thread (and noticing you need sunspear rank etc...) I wanted to make a build that you can use without ranks needed, this kills the aatxe, terrorwebs and graspings quickly.
I am a n00b at farming UW so seem to die everytime on my way to the chaos pits (meh, I need to learn the run a bit better) but even without the chaos pits I grab 2-4 ectos every run or 2.
Always aggro everything you can, you never want less than 4 things around you for the boost from channeling.
( btw My primary farming has always been ele so am a nub at sin farming so please go easy when ripping my build apart xD )
Soloing UW in HM as A/Me (Image Heavy)
Onyx Blindbow
Himm_Taeguk
A few people have mentioned Builds without Allegence and SS Skills.
I'm building up a Sin for the sole purpose of this farm and I have found that R1/R6 (which teotuf says is the minimum) is relativley staight forward.
Getting r1 Luxon/Kurzick is fairly easy with easy with a bit of AB'ing (and quiet fun for a PvE'er). I just use my Ranger (cos it is an account based title) and transfer faction every 5000.
And R6 SS comes doing all Primary Quests in NF, then Consulate Docks mission and then completing Hunted! Higher ranks in SS may take more time.
I'm not taking anything away from the guys who post the build without these, I may try them if R1/R6 isn't enough.
Himm
I'm building up a Sin for the sole purpose of this farm and I have found that R1/R6 (which teotuf says is the minimum) is relativley staight forward.
Getting r1 Luxon/Kurzick is fairly easy with easy with a bit of AB'ing (and quiet fun for a PvE'er). I just use my Ranger (cos it is an account based title) and transfer faction every 5000.
And R6 SS comes doing all Primary Quests in NF, then Consulate Docks mission and then completing Hunted! Higher ranks in SS may take more time.
I'm not taking anything away from the guys who post the build without these, I may try them if R1/R6 isn't enough.
Himm
mwaddoups
R1/R6 is perfect. Both I and a friend have been running this build separately with those ranks, and between us we make an average of 8 ectos a run with no problems. And because the allegiance title is account wide, it only ever has to be done once - usually the skills are useful on your other characters as well.
TarjaTeOrteyn
im glad the builds finally coming into its own...its also possible to get around 400-500 SS points in 5 minutes ill post the location when i can remember it :P
King Sasuke
What is the ideal health for this build seeing as you have 380 and i have only 335?
Mr.Kotte
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What is the ideal health for this build seeing as you have 380 and i have only 335?
Health does not matter as you will be under Shadow Form 100%.
King Sasuke
Ok sweet thanks!
noobius
Onix, I had a question about your build. I've been using wandering eye too because I think it's more useful than viper's. I've also thought about using clumsiness, but I didn't know if hexing a mob in 'flee mode' made it attack you and I'm too lazy to test it. So, does casting clumsiness actually get everything to attack, or just the 3 that were already attacking?
Onyx Blindbow
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Onix, I had a question about your build. I've been using wandering eye too because I think it's more useful than viper's. I've also thought about using clumsiness, but I didn't know if hexing a mob in 'flee mode' made it attack you and I'm too lazy to test it. So, does casting clumsiness actually get everything to attack, or just the 3 that were already attacking?
Onix is a pokemon 
OnyX isn't 
but in answer to yours
from the start I aggro all the chamber as per the guide in this thread, then choke them behind the quest ghost and the braziers then use clum, wait 2 secs then use wandering eye, I usually target the aatxe with both and nothing gets chance to flee and it also stops "fear me" from the graspings and hits everything thats is gathered around you
OnyX isn't but in answer to yours
from the start I aggro all the chamber as per the guide in this thread, then choke them behind the quest ghost and the braziers then use clum, wait 2 secs then use wandering eye, I usually target the aatxe with both and nothing gets chance to flee and it also stops "fear me" from the graspings and hits everything thats is gathered around you
AceOfNoobs
Just making a note here. For people who are just looking to farm ectos, they should just do NM with this build, as the drop rate is the same for ectos, it is faster, and I like this build better than the A/e variant as this one has better energy management AND the monsters dont scatter from your spells whereas the A/E version does.
NRUTER
I've been practicing with this in NM, and I can clear everything up to the run, but I can't get past the obsidian behemoths... they always form a wall that I cant fit through... how are you supposed to run past them? The opening is pretty narrow, and every time I can't fit through them...
Dragonious
good stuff man. thank you for sharing now all i gotta do is get my asuran and sunspear rank up (providing that i want radiation field) ^_^
now all i gotta do is get my asuran and sunspear rank up (providing that i want radiation field) ^_^
King Sasuke
So i have read all about it but i still dont know the chain all i know is DP then AC then SF keep that up then SOF, Cry, Ether, POF then what? Do you keep doing SOF,Cry,Ether?
Abedeus
Yeah. But you must remember to maintain SF first, then use the damage chain. It's usually:
Perma SF -> SoF, Ether, Cry, Radiation Field -> Perma SF -> Damage chain -> Perma SF -> ? -> Profit!
Perma SF -> SoF, Ether, Cry, Radiation Field -> Perma SF -> Damage chain -> Perma SF -> ? -> Profit!
AceOfNoobs
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I've been practicing with this in NM, and I can clear everything up to the run, but I can't get past the obsidian behemoths... they always form a wall that I cant fit through... how are you supposed to run past them? The opening is pretty narrow, and every time I can't fit through them...
If I have time I will show you the run, IGN: Ace Of Noobs
And if you want to try yourself, just stick to the corners away from the behemoths, and if you do see that the path will likely make you hit a trap, precast feigned neutrality
And if you want to try yourself, just stick to the corners away from the behemoths, and if you do see that the path will likely make you hit a trap, precast feigned neutrality
Jebus
Tried this build about 25 times today, keep dying (I hated Aechoed SF -.-)
Also, I seem to be killing them very slowly (R6 Sunspear, R3 Kurzick)
Any help?
Also, I seem to be killing them very slowly (R6 Sunspear, R3 Kurzick)
Any help?
Onyx Blindbow
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Tried this build about 25 times today, keep dying (I hated Aechoed SF -.-)
Also, I seem to be killing them very slowly (R6 Sunspear, R3 Kurzick)
Any help? I had same problem so that is why I made my own build and posted it here
I have no sunspear rank as assasin was made 2 months ago purely for farming
hence my build has no rank dependent skills
Also, I seem to be killing them very slowly (R6 Sunspear, R3 Kurzick)
Any help? I had same problem so that is why I made my own build and posted it here
I have no sunspear rank as assasin was made 2 months ago purely for farming
hence my build has no rank dependent skills
Yoshikuni Mahsu
Few questions about the run to the planes: Do you maintain SF or not? you've said no (running that with only dark escape and feigned makes me queasy at the thought of it), but in the video I see you did, so can it be done either way?
And with Nat. Renewal, what duration do you need on DP so it doesn't run out before you're done with arcane?
And with Nat. Renewal, what duration do you need on DP so it doesn't run out before you're done with arcane?
Abedeus
Imo 8 would be fine, but it's not that hard to achieve. 4 seconds Arcane Echo, 0,75 aftercast, 2*0.66 = 1.32 second is in total about 6 seconds. So 4 deadly arts is enough (3+1 or any other combination, maybe 3+3?)
teotuf
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And with Nat. Renewal, what duration do you need on DP so it doesn't run out before you're done with arcane?
you really can survive with 0 in deadly arts, because you can activate DP in the middle of arcane echo since it's a stance. i use a longer duration because that's about 5 extra energy every 40 secs, but it's not necessary in any way
thiagobnu
The build is awesome,
Originally Posted by TarjaTeOrteyn
and thx for the guide ! Quote: im glad the builds finally coming into its own...its also possible to get around 400-500 SS points in 5 minutes ill post the location when i can remember it :P
Did you remember where to farm SS points ?
TarjaTeOrteyn
o yeha sry lol....the farm spot is outside of gate of desolation....there are 2 groups of undead and a boss u can kill in 5 miniutes for around 500 SS points...in wurms of course
Himm_Taeguk
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o yeha sry lol....the farm spot is outside of gate of desolation....there are 2 groups of undead and a boss u can kill in 5 miniutes for around 500 SS points...in wurms of course
Only problem with that is, you have to take your sin to the end of NF.
My sin is just for farming, as are a few others I imagine. NVM eh Dave
Ambuu
I'm about 20 something runs in and I always misjudge the arcane echo SF, so I end up dying somehow.
Other than that, I've gotten about 1 ecto in the last 20 failures, from a bladed aatxe Jebus
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I'm about 20 something runs in and I always misjudge the arcane echo SF, so I end up dying somehow.
Other than that, I've gotten about 1 ecto in the last 20 failures, from a bladed aatxe Same problem here, although I don't misjudge it, I just forget it. ne33us
I use this build in NM, especially after the SF buff it is extremely easy to play it and it gives me too much time to correct any mistakes I make.
Originally Posted by Ambuu
I even managed to do the run to "Ectoland" (Chaos Planes) after a few tries and failures. In HM i can't just find the "choke points" just yet but it is still doable but slower. I usually get 2-3 globs from the first rooms, and I got a total of 9 Ectos when I got to do the Chaos Planes too. And I don't try to "Run" the place. I take my time and eventually it pays up. Great built. Many thanks to the people that made it and published it here. Quote: I'm about 20 something runs in and I always misjudge the arcane echo SF, so I end up dying somehow.
Other than that, I've gotten about 1 ecto in the last 20 failures, from a bladed aatxe
Yoshikuni Mahsu
Yeah I forget about the echoed SF alot, and die about 80% of the time due to it. Theres a few second pause after you miss it as you confirm that your screwed, plus you cant get mad because you know it was just your fck up.
Chthon
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Unwanted Guest
If you ever wanted to try your luck at a purple crystalline sword, this is for you. Take the quest from reaper, and kill each group of terrorwebs + keeper of souls by pulling them together like this, ignoring vengeful aatxes at all times. I did Unwanted Guests, but no chest appeared near the reaper. Where is is it? Did it maybe not appear because I did Imprisoned Spirits first? stef247
Hey guys!
Thanks for the help, now I'm capable of doing it :P But to the author, regarding your drops image, you might have been epicly lucky since I've been farming for 1 1/2 weeks now and the maximum I got farming the 1st and 2nd chamber and the chaos planes was 6 ectos, what is still extraordinary! Lots of lockpicks, tomes and golds, too...(got about 180k in this time, average of one run a day) I always tried to pull the 4 popping mobs and to let them die by the EN degen..btw idk how Viper's Defense sneaked into some variations of this build but it's fkn contraproductive :P BTW I use Channeling instead of FN But one question: I pulled some undead from the pits to the corrdior shown in one of your images (the narrow one just behind the first chained souls)..But they can scatter and so I can't farm the pits..(wells).. stef247
Hey guys, question:
Is there any way to compensate being crippled when you're already in the middle of the mountains? Cos sometimes I just can't avoid the behemoths (not the first ones, but those, when you zig-zag run up the hill, rush through that kind of pass, and go left. there the charged blacknesses come through this way <-- , run a bit farther, turn and go -->, sometimes there are like 4 behemoths, i cant avoid the barbed trap and the charged kill me...had this the last 3 runs lol Godplusone
Have anyone tried this lately, really tried, not just a couple of times but several successful runs with a Me/A? I'm wondering if i should try with my mesmer because the pain of making an assassin which probably will bore me to death. Though I'm not sure if SF will stay up long enough with only 12 as max skill. I saw someone posting a pic earlier, looks little tight on hp though.
Any ideas or tips to make this work with a Me primary will be greatly appreciated.
Daenara
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Have anyone tried this lately, really tried, not just a couple of times but several successful runs with a Me/A? I'm wondering if i should try with my mesmer because the pain of making an assassin which probably will bore me to death. Though I'm not sure if SF will stay up long enough with only 12 as max skill. I saw someone posting a pic earlier, looks little tight on hp though.
Any ideas or tips to make this work with a Me primary will be greatly appreciated. I actually find it easier with my mes than with my assassin. I wear a sup fast cast headpiece, so I'm running around with 9 fast casting. When I jump on my assassin I find casting time to be so slow! I've not had a problem with shadow form duration, I've got seconds leeway so I've survived many "ohshi" moments. [build=OQdUAqx6pPTpZ8ILB6MNQ2gsgwAA] -->Minor Inspiration, Sup fast cast headpiece. Godplusone
Sweet, looks like my mesmer is gonna have some fun then. I hope i get the time to try it this week, if my runs go bad, i'll probably be back to whine
edit: Btw Daenara, you reckon Radiation Field will work instead of Ether Nightmare? Without a guild and no transfered faction I believe Ether N is out of the option for me. mwaddoups
Unwanted Guests does NOT spawn a chest, so its probably not worth doing.
See here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Chest_(The_Underworld) BuRdTuRd
I just finished getting all the skills/titles needed for this build, but the only things I can seem to kill are the Graspings. I simply don't do enough damage to the aatxes... Any suggestions?
stef247
How do you get 10 ectos?
1st and 2nd room of the Chamber, Chaos Planes and the terorwebs on the way to the spawning pools -> 5 Ectos maximum! BTW can you tell me where or how to pull the mobs in the pits? I tried narrow corridors but it doenst work! dan_dv
I have trouble with the run to Chaos Planes. Because I am new to the run, i have doing it very slow. When I reach the top of Twin Serpent Mountains, there are Charged Blacknesses just outside the entrance. They are not patrolling, just standing there next to the Obsidian Behemoths. Do they get there because of the slow run?
The main reason for my slow run is that i have trouble with traps. Sometimes there are only a narrow passage between two Obsidian Behemoths that you can run through and that passage is blocked with traps. I have tried with Dash but that killed me instantly. Now I try to tigger them and return to heal with Feigned Neutrality. If i make the run faster, will less traps appear? Are there better ways to get past traps?
Ambuu
Yes, the charged blacknesses are there because you're too slow.
You just have to make sure you get through the behemoths without touching them. Feigned Neutrality will help with the healing if you get hit by the traps. Other than that, I read somewhere that if you lure the charged blacknesses towards you then use dash you wont get knocked down by shock ximi489
What skills can you use to substitute the NF skills? I have Phophecies, Factions, And EoTN.
Please help me. I need ectos llol AceOfNoobs
You need Deadly Paradox, so no luck for you sorry !
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