Make all inscribable caster items drop as any attribute...

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Inscribable Platinum Wands/Staves, Wayward wands, Silverboar Scepters, pretty much every caster item that uses a universal skin, can only drop linked to primary attributes.

It pretty much defeats the purpose of using them as any decent caster would be using a 40/40 set for their main attribute, which isn't very likely to be their primary.

The only craftable/inscribable items that actually give the option to come as every attribute are Tormented, Destroyer, Deldrimor, and the Bonus Mission Pack. If none of those interest you, you pretty much have to use some generic common skin.

Strangely, the newly released items, Bone Dragon Staves and Frog Scepters, can come as any attribute yet every other universal caster item that can drop as loot comes as primary only.

MetalMan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Some Guild.

W/Mo

/signed.

I love some of the wand skins, such as Platinum, but for my Ele or Ritu to use them, i need to go primary attribute which isn't why i'd use a wand in the first place...

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

That explains the Req 9 Energy Storage staff I got ages ago.

/signed - A Platinum Inscribable Restoration Staff for my Rit would be nice :3

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

/signed

Though it is in a way already possible to obtain them through the zaishen chest, just extremely rare.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Yes PLEASE.... theres such a limitation on good skins because of this.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Yes, signed.

There are tons of nice skins that drop with inspiration or fast casting requirements, often not even Mesmers can use them properly. A real waste.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/signed. This should give people a better chance to use some skins they'd rather have.

bartj??

bartj??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

/unsigned

this will nerf all non-inscribable staffs with such a req they are bit more rare so what? you can still buy them and if you rlly like it you can safe some money. you can find most of those you said in factions/prohecies campain non-inscripable with any attribute

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There are skins that are linked to an attrbiute, like Fire Staves, but it's true that others that may drop with attributes of any profession should drop also with primary attributes.

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Originally Posted by bartjé
this will nerf all non-inscribable staffs with such a req they are bit more rare so what? you can still buy them and if you rlly like it you can safe some money. you can find most of those you said in factions/prohecies campain non-inscripable with any attribute
What? Uniscribable staves, wands and shields are mostly merchant fodder since the days of Prophecies.
And you ABSOLUTELY CAN'T find any of those with ritualist attributes in Prophecies and almost no Prophecies caster drops are linked to primary attributes.

An overall drop update must be done, and this idea is a good part of that update.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bartjé
/unsigned

this will nerf all non-inscribable staffs with such a req they are bit more rare so what? you can still buy them and if you rlly like it you can safe some money. you can find most of those you said in factions/prohecies campain non-inscripable with any attribute
???

What is wanted is rare skins with other req than primaries. Not everyone is using the primary. If you are a N/Rt and working as a healer then a spawning power wand/staff is freaking useless. why waste them?

/signed

~the rat~

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I'm pretty sure what the OP is saying isn't true.
I have a curses boar scepter and a fire wayward wand gold in my invintory now. So, /sorta signed but I think his examples aren't correct.

Loli Krasivaya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Divine Order of Heroes (DOoH)

N/

/signed

Physicals get SO many options, while casters get totally jipped.

Aerie Swiftarrow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
There are skins that are linked to an attrbiute, like Fire Staves, but it's true that others that may drop with attributes of any profession should drop also with primary attributes.


What? Uniscribable staves, wands and shields are mostly merchant fodder since the days of Prophecies.
And you ABSOLUTELY CAN'T find any of those with ritualist attributes in Prophecies and almost no Prophecies caster drops are linked to primary attributes.

An overall drop update must be done, and this idea is a good part of that update.
Haha, sorry to burst your bubble... but i found a Raven Staff req 9 Communing.. in Abaddon's Mouth (Prophecies) on my Warrior, i can prove it too, i still have it

Fitz Rinley

Fitz Rinley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Rusty Rose

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by bartjé
/unsigned

this will nerf all non-inscribable staffs with such a req they are bit more rare so what? you can still buy them and if you rlly like it you can safe some money. you can find most of those you said in factions/prohecies campain non-inscripable with any attribute
Yeah, right. Saw something for sale - 100k plus 50 Ecto. No! I won't buy them. I will just stay pissed because I am not allowed to be entertained with the image that I would enjoy.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Signed

What's this doing in Sardelac?

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
/Signed

What's this doing in Sardelac?
i c wut u did thar.

/signed. Gimme gimme dolyak prod staff!

Rhaegor Stormborn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Chicago, Illinois

Mo/E

/signed

More item variety is a good thing regardless of the reason behind it, but I also support this line of reasoning.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

/signed

I'd love some of the skins available as Soul Reaping but with a Curses req instead. Also wonder why Soul Reaping, Energy Storage, Spawning Power, Divine Favor, and Inspiration Magic were used. Mesmer has Fast Casting as a primary attribute, not Inspiration Magic.

nbajammer

nbajammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Blade And Rose [BaR]

Mo/

/signed

It would be nice to have other reqs on some nice skins, like Platinum Staff.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

/signed

Some of the GW:EN staffs are total kick-ass.
But utter shit because of their req.
QQ

Shai Lee

Shai Lee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Somewhere

/signed

Oh, and I also wondered about using inspiration for mesmers vs their primary.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I was about to make a thread about it long ago myself but was too lazy. Thankfully found this so I

/sign

this one.
This is a very annoying issue and should be easy to fix.

I find those caster items from GW:EN and The Deep/Urgoz endchests close to completely useless because of the attributes they drop for. They're only good for selling them...

I play almost only casters and this issue greatly discouraged me from playing dungeons for nice items - theres NO hope for finding a useful one! Zero chance!
(at least the new design contest winners drop for all attributes. They finally realised the fail? How about fixing the rest?)

For Monk I'm mainly looking for Healing or Protection req items, rarely Smiting, NEVER Divine, but they decided to make them all Divine...

For Ele I could use all EXCEPT Energy Storage and that's exactly what I can only get (and worse - the ES req drops are *worse* than crafter counterparts because crafter ones at least deal Chaos Dmg)

For Mes they only drop for Inspiration, a secondary attribute for most builds, NOT the attrib I would want weapons for. Mesmers want DOMINATION or Illusion ffs.

For Nec - Curses, Death, even Blood are the useful ones, soul reaping NOT

For Rit those Spawning req staffs are also a complete joke...

There are no reasons NOT to update the GW:EN staffs and Pronged Fans. And the only 1 reason for not updating the inscribable Zodiac Staffs and Platinum Staffs is the value of perfect oldschool versions that dropped for a USEFUL attribute. But there were no Healing or Prot versions for those, only rare Divine with Heal or Prot HCT inherent, but those aren't compatibile with Adept staff heads and deal crappy Fire dmg...