I'm wondering if there is any viable builds for that skill ?
I'm new to rits .... as you may notice, so ...
thx for the help
[Clamor of souls]
Clamor of souls
thiagobnu
Hi Guys !
I'm wondering if there is any viable builds for that skill ?
I'm new to rits .... as you may notice, so ...
thx for the help
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[Clamor of souls]
I'm wondering if there is any viable builds for that skill ?
I'm new to rits .... as you may notice, so ...
thx for the help
[Clamor of souls]
miskav
Ritball :P (Heal area + That + Spirit rifts + Ancestor's) = Auto win.
thiagobnu
Thx Miskav.
Maybe [Cruel was Daoshen] What do you think ?
Does a minions count as an ally ?
I was thinking ... me as a rit with [clamor of souls] + [Cruel was Daoshen].
A Jagged MM, a n\rt restorer (with [icy veins] or [OOTV]) and a splinter volley ranger.
2 monks, a warder and maybe a warrior henchies to complete the team.
Strong enough for vanquish most areas ?
Maybe [Cruel was Daoshen] What do you think ?
Does a minions count as an ally ?
I was thinking ... me as a rit with [clamor of souls] + [Cruel was Daoshen].
A Jagged MM, a n\rt restorer (with [icy veins] or [OOTV]) and a splinter volley ranger.
2 monks, a warder and maybe a warrior henchies to complete the team.
Strong enough for vanquish most areas ?
miskav
Allies is anything in the party window ( I presume)
And hmm... it could work nicely yeah.
And hmm... it could work nicely yeah.
street peddler
crap elite
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Dr Strangelove
It's horrible, [ancestors' rage] outclasses it, as does [cruel was daoshen] and [flame burst], etc. etc. It's crap.
horseradish
There are much better elites to take.
Focusing your build on Clamor of Souls is bad. The elite skill (for Rits at least) should complement the rest of the build.
Focusing your build on Clamor of Souls is bad. The elite skill (for Rits at least) should complement the rest of the build.
zling
its a pretty bad elite, Destructive was Glaive/Grasping was Kuorong are better if you're into PBAOe Rit.
Weapon of Remedy, Offering of Spirit and Attuned was Songkai are better for general Channeling/Restoration hybrids...
and allies are not just party members, minions, pets, allied npcs, etc do count... however since its only nearby range it's not better than any other nearby PBAoE and takes an elite...
Weapon of Remedy, Offering of Spirit and Attuned was Songkai are better for general Channeling/Restoration hybrids...
and allies are not just party members, minions, pets, allied npcs, etc do count... however since its only nearby range it's not better than any other nearby PBAoE and takes an elite...
thiagobnu
Thx for the repplies ....
but i insist .... one more chance
.
i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits.
but i insist .... one more chance
.i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits.
thiagobnu
Well .... im changing my mind.
Maybe [grasping was kuurong]+[ancestors rage]+[cruel was daoshen]+[spirit rift]+[you move like a dwarf]
and some utility\energy management
Better ... or this sucks too
?
Maybe [grasping was kuurong]+[ancestors rage]+[cruel was daoshen]+[spirit rift]+[you move like a dwarf]
and some utility\energy management
Better ... or this sucks too
?
legacyofkain85
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Thx for the repplies ....
but i insist .... one more chance .
i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits. change it with destructive was glaive than u can go forth and back between glaive and daoshen trowing an ancestor in there on recharge ,gl with energy management tho
but i insist .... one more chance
.i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits. change it with destructive was glaive than u can go forth and back between glaive and daoshen trowing an ancestor in there on recharge ,gl with energy management tho
thiagobnu
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Originally Posted by legacyofkain85
change it with destructive was glaive than u can go forth and back between glaive and daoshen trowing an ancestor in there on recharge ,gl with energy management tho
Thx man ....
maybe [energetic was lee sa]+[essence strike] for e-management.
I can use essence because ill always have a n\rt restorer (with [life]) with me
maybe [energetic was lee sa]+[essence strike] for e-management.
I can use essence because ill always have a n\rt restorer (with [life]) with me
Cosmic Error
Look at the Clamor of Souls description. [Clamor]
Now look at the Ancestor's Rage description. [Ancestor]
AR does MORE damage for HALF the energy, and the amount of foes it hits isn't limited by the amount of RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing allies in range! What was Anet thinking when they made this skill? It has no reason to exist!
Now look at the Ancestor's Rage description. [Ancestor]
AR does MORE damage for HALF the energy, and the amount of foes it hits isn't limited by the amount of RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing allies in range! What was Anet thinking when they made this skill? It has no reason to exist!
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic Error
Look at the Clamor of Souls description. [Clamor]
Now look at the Ancestor's Rage description. [Ancestor]
AR does MORE damage for HALF the energy, and the amount of foes it hits isn't limited by the amount of RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing allies in range! What was Anet thinking when they made this skill? It has no reason to exist! To cause stupid ass rage posts [like your's], ending up with lulz.
Now look at the Ancestor's Rage description. [Ancestor]
AR does MORE damage for HALF the energy, and the amount of foes it hits isn't limited by the amount of RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing allies in range! What was Anet thinking when they made this skill? It has no reason to exist! To cause stupid ass rage posts [like your's], ending up with lulz.
Cosmic Error
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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynyrd
To cause stupid ass rage posts [like your's], ending up with lulz.
I admit I got carried away, but the existence of a skill such as this soils the good Ritualist name.
horseradish
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Well .... im changing my mind.
Maybe [grasping was kuurong]+[ancestors rage]+[cruel was daoshen]+[spirit rift]+[you move like a dwarf]
and some utility\energy management
Better ... or this sucks too ?
The thing is....PBAoE skills suck. Outside of Farming, you're really risking your life for something really marginal. There should be other damage dealing members in your party. (I've never seen a PUG without at least 1 warrior)
The Rits job is to increase that damage with [Ancestors' Rage] and [Splinter Weapon].
Ritualists are support chars. Devoting your skill bar for damage is really gimping it's potential
Maybe [grasping was kuurong]+[ancestors rage]+[cruel was daoshen]+[spirit rift]+[you move like a dwarf]
and some utility\energy management
Better ... or this sucks too
?
The thing is....PBAoE skills suck. Outside of Farming, you're really risking your life for something really marginal. There should be other damage dealing members in your party. (I've never seen a PUG without at least 1 warrior)The Rits job is to increase that damage with [Ancestors' Rage] and [Splinter Weapon].
Ritualists are support chars. Devoting your skill bar for damage is really gimping it's potential
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Thx for the repplies ....
but i insist .... one more chance .
i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits.
But I insist even more. Don't bother with this elite.
[destructive was glaive] and [grasping was kuurong]
are still better though I don't really recommend either.
but i insist .... one more chance
.i tought having [clamor of souls]+[cruel was daoshen]+[ancestors rage]
in the same bar. Its plus 300 damage in 3 seconds.
Just need some utility for the bar.
I dont like spirits ... that's why im searching for diferrent ways to do
some damage with rits.
But I insist even more. Don't bother with this elite.
[destructive was glaive] and [grasping was kuurong]
are still better though I don't really recommend either.
Darth Cheney
My favorite use of Ancestors Rage is on the front line tanks allies. I can heal them and also blast their foes. You can even use it on the pets, which is helpful.
thiagobnu
thx for the repplies ...
Yeah ... clamor of souls its not that good.
But ill give it a try to [destructive was glaive].
If dosent work ...maybe i start doing what rits are suppose to do
Yeah ... clamor of souls its not that good.
But ill give it a try to [destructive was glaive].
If dosent work ...maybe i start doing what rits are suppose to do
wu is me
doing what rits do with a rit is indeed an original and most prodigious idea
isamu kurosawa
I'd love to see clamour get the ancestor's treatment or something simmilar. An elite ancestor's could be fun.
Now, if we where to change it, what would everyone like the extra "elite-worthy" part to be?
Just extra dmg wouldn't be as useful. KD would be a bit too much
Making it a DoT might be interesting, but that would be a slap in the face of smiting.
Now, if we where to change it, what would everyone like the extra "elite-worthy" part to be?
Just extra dmg wouldn't be as useful. KD would be a bit too much
Making it a DoT might be interesting, but that would be a slap in the face of smiting.
Turbobusa
The old 5 - 1/4 - 8 instant activation 130 damage ancestor's rage was elite worthy.
zling
the old version+nearby instead of adjacent will make it elite worthy
thiagobnu
Well...
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build ?
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build
?
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Well...
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build ?
If your running a hybrid you definatly want [[splinter weapon] and maybe [[warmongers weapon]. Also, if your running those then to not reduce the effectiveness of your elite try [[weapon of remedy]. Definatly one of the nest elites for Rt. Another alternative is [[offering of spirit] as it will allow you to fuel more skills.
[[bloodsong] is a good spirit to use as a trigger for skills but [[vampirism] is better.
Rt resses also happen to be some of the best in the game.
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build
?
If your running a hybrid you definatly want [[splinter weapon] and maybe [[warmongers weapon]. Also, if your running those then to not reduce the effectiveness of your elite try [[weapon of remedy]. Definatly one of the nest elites for Rt. Another alternative is [[offering of spirit] as it will allow you to fuel more skills.[[bloodsong] is a good spirit to use as a trigger for skills but [[vampirism] is better.
Rt resses also happen to be some of the best in the game.
mrbilzor
I think the best way to improve [clamor of souls] is to make it castable on either allies (ala [ancestor's rage]) or other mobs (like [channeled strike]).
This self casting garbage cripples the skill. If it has to be selfcasting, why not make it ashes, at least then you could preload it and cast two right at the start of a fight, when it's most useful.
This self casting garbage cripples the skill. If it has to be selfcasting, why not make it ashes, at least then you could preload it and cast two right at the start of a fight, when it's most useful.
Shadowmere
As stated before about the only way to make the skill viable is to use it alongside a MM (or two) to garauntee there'll be as many allies as enemies to maximize the damage. Still a terribly clunky skill though, even Glaive is better imo.
spirit of defeat
[clamor of souls]
Minion's do count. There for it might be useful in AB. But you need to have at least more allies then enemy's. I never used it.
Allies need to be in range.
[ancestor's rage]
It has a smaller range. But none elite thus its better.
[destructive was glaive]
The biggest problem is it's upkeep. If only it last a bit longer. But it can do massive damage.
Damge on drop also does 10% AL penetration so damage is a big lower, not much.
[grasping was kuurong]
Same range as Clamor. Costs more, less damage. Longer recharge.
Grasping only has 2 pro's: It has knockdown. it's an item, your sure it hits all in range.
[destructive was glaive]Is my choice out of these elite's
Minion's do count. There for it might be useful in AB. But you need to have at least more allies then enemy's. I never used it.
Allies need to be in range.
[ancestor's rage]
It has a smaller range. But none elite thus its better.
[destructive was glaive]
The biggest problem is it's upkeep. If only it last a bit longer. But it can do massive damage.
Damge on drop also does 10% AL penetration so damage is a big lower, not much.
[grasping was kuurong]
Same range as Clamor. Costs more, less damage. Longer recharge.
Grasping only has 2 pro's: It has knockdown. it's an item, your sure it hits all in range.
[destructive was glaive]Is my choice out of these elite's
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by spirit of defeat
[grasping was kuurong]
Same range as Clamor. Costs more, less damage. Longer recharge.
Grasping only has 2 pro's: it's an item, your sure it hits all in range. You forgot the most improtant "pro". AoE knockdown at will.
Same range as Clamor. Costs more, less damage. Longer recharge.
Grasping only has 2 pro's: it's an item, your sure it hits all in range. You forgot the most improtant "pro". AoE knockdown at will.
thiagobnu
Not at will ... 20 sec recharge.
A warrior with [earth shaker] its better than [grasping was kuurong] (i finnaly got that).
I capped [destructive was glaive] and its a bad skill too.
It only lasts 10 seconds .... most of the item spells lasts much longer than that,
and the benefits, well ...10% armor penetration, oh my !
I finally got it .... support your party. Im doing this ... and its working
very well.
A warrior with [earth shaker] its better than [grasping was kuurong] (i finnaly got that).
I capped [destructive was glaive] and its a bad skill too.
It only lasts 10 seconds .... most of the item spells lasts much longer than that,
and the benefits, well ...10% armor penetration, oh my !
I finally got it .... support your party. Im doing this ... and its working
very well.
Shadowmere
Don't underestimate [grasping was kuurong] the fact that it's an AoE KD with very little set up req gives it good power, especially considering you can syngergize it with all sorts of skills, have an [earthbind] to keep them down longer, [aftershock] em you're in range if you have the KD of Kuurong anyways, or even things like [falling spider]. There's lots you can do with it.
Divine is Faith
Yeah I used to use grasping was kuurong all the time. I would have my warrior tank a group then cast Spirit rift run in and drop Grasping was Kuurong and then have time to cast spirit rift again and use ancestors rage and would get a large spike damage. Sometimes even recast Grasping was Kuurong and drop a second one. Its a really good skill when used properly. Cause you can cast it before you agro a group. Wait for the 20 seconds to almost be up so that it is available again then agro a group drop the first one and cast a couple spells then recast and drop.
mrbilzor
If minions count for Clamor, maybe there is some kind of [clamor of souls]+[animate bone minions] build?
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Well...
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build ?
I've always said that spirit light weapon isn't a bad spell, but I never said it was a good one. Truth is, Rit elites are generally more disposable than elites from other classes. If you really want a good elite go with
[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class.
thx for the tips. This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks.
Im using a [cruel was daoshen][essence strike][ancestors rage][spirit light weapon][life][protective was kaolai][channeling]
Any tips for me ... to improve this build
?
I've always said that spirit light weapon isn't a bad spell, but I never said it was a good one. Truth is, Rit elites are generally more disposable than elites from other classes. If you really want a good elite go with[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class.
street peddler
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Originally Posted by MasterSasori
I've always said that spirit light weapon isn't a bad spell, but I never said it was a good one. Truth is, Rit elites are generally more disposable than elites from other classes. If you really want a good elite go with
[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class.
no...clamor of souls is just shit.
[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class.
no...clamor of souls is just shit.
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Not at will ... 20 sec recharge.
As with all long lasting item spells you can cast it in advance. The "at will" is the drop ability. Earthshaker has the adren req to build up, grasping can be fired off twice in a row.
thiagobnu
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
As with all long lasting item spells you can cast it in advance. The "at will" is the drop ability. Earthshaker has the adren req to build up, grasping can be fired off twice in a row.
right .... i forgot that.
Anyway .... i still think that [Earth Shaker] its better.
You will have to be in the middle of the battlefield to
be useful with that skill ... and this is kinda dangerous (for a rit) .... specially in HM.
Still ....you are right with your observation.
Anyway .... i still think that [Earth Shaker] its better.
You will have to be in the middle of the battlefield to
be useful with that skill ... and this is kinda dangerous (for a rit) .... specially in HM.
Still ....you are right with your observation.
thiagobnu
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSasori
I've always said that spirit light weapon isn't a bad spell, but I never said it was a good one. Truth is, Rit elites are generally more disposable than elites from other classes. If you really want a good elite go with
[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class. It isn't a bad spell ... but rits have better one's.
[Offering of spirit] it's one.
How about [reclaim essence] .... i think its better then [offering of spirit].
5 sec recharge ...15 energy. Combine well with life and if you have a Jagged MM ....
its awesome.
[offering of spirit]
Rit elites are generally pretty "meh." Maybe try an elite from another class. It isn't a bad spell ... but rits have better one's.
[Offering of spirit] it's one.
How about [reclaim essence] .... i think its better then [offering of spirit].
5 sec recharge ...15 energy. Combine well with life and if you have a Jagged MM ....
its awesome.
Super Igor
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
Well...
This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks. You are bad... DWG RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing esplodes everything. (not in PvE, in PvP it rocks)
Clamour of Sould is bad too, 5-1/4-8 and smaller damage to all nearby foes would be good, also it should be on target to avoid a similar effect to the old Ancestor's HA spike.
~Super Igor~
This weekend i caped [clamor of souls]
and [destructive was glaive] ..... bolth skills sucks. You are bad... DWG RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing esplodes everything. (not in PvE, in PvP it rocks)
Clamour of Sould is bad too, 5-1/4-8 and smaller damage to all nearby foes would be good, also it should be on target to avoid a similar effect to the old Ancestor's HA spike.
~Super Igor
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by thiagobnu
How about [reclaim essence] .... i think its better then [offering of spirit].
5 sec recharge ...15 energy. Combine well with life and if you have a Jagged MM ....
its awesome. It's in spawning power, which blows goats.
5 sec recharge ...15 energy. Combine well with life and if you have a Jagged MM ....
its awesome. It's in spawning power, which blows goats.