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Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

08 May 2008 at 19:36 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

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quote jeff strain mayby you heard of him?

What exactly is your point? I fail to see how, even if most fans don't participate on the sites, it negates what the fans who do participate contribute and/or add.

Just because there are a good number that don't read this forum or the official site doesn't mean they aren't affected by those that do. Devs get hints, suggestions and feedback by the ones that do post. And if someone picks up a shitty game, forum goer or not, they're going to let anyone else who they're friends with that plays games know that it's a shitty game and they shouldn't bother with it. Word of mouth is a powerful thing.

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

08 May 2008 at 19:36 - 42

this is all qft, i hate whiners. this game is the best online game out there, and you still whine your asses off.

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

08 May 2008 at 19:51 - 43

Hey, we can moan as much as we want, ANet does not understand, or does not give a s***.

Maybe they have some new kind of target group, it is for sure not anyone here on this forum. Except maybe some Ursan bears, maybe.

*Gem*

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

United Kingdom

Me/

08 May 2008 at 19:57 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Algorn

It's called constructive criticism. Everyone has a right to an opinion and to voice it. If they listen we might help improve the game for everyone.

The problem is half the spew that comes out of these forums actually happens to be the least constructive criticisms or idea's I have come across.

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

08 May 2008 at 20:06 - 45

it just worries me that Anet might not even know what happens in their own game anymore

they must know

A: people dont want anymore buyable titles
B: People want emotes for titles such as glad or KoaBD

and the result? /Zrank

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

08 May 2008 at 20:07 - 46

Because we buy their product, and so we are their customer, and so we get the right to give them feedback on their product.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

08 May 2008 at 21:03 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Algorn

It's called constructive criticism. Everyone has a right to an opinion and to voice it. If they listen we might help improve the game for everyone.

But the customer isn't always right. There's a difference between constructive criticism and being an entitled jerk.

Screw political correctness and easy fob offs that "it's just teh internetz" or "you're a care bear", some customers deserve to be fired.

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

08 May 2008 at 21:07 - 48

Because I have that Right............if I buy a new car and I don't like something about it I will go back to the dealer and see what can be done about it, same goes for Anet, I bought there Product and if they make horrible changes that piss me off I am gonna tell them about it...........people that just sit there and take it will always be walked over in life.

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

08 May 2008 at 21:13 - 49

Ofcourse we don't have that right!
If you think it sucks.. make your own game?! Don't put the blame on a great coorperation as Arenanet!

Why would Arenanet improve the game if the only thing that happens when they ADD NEW STUFF to their games is b itching about it that it fails!?

kkthxbaibai

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

08 May 2008 at 21:19 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshanabey2

so much them from them. The fact that you expect so much delivered.[/I]

Stopped reading after that.

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

08 May 2008 at 21:20 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimme

Ofcourse we don't have that right!
If you think it sucks.. make your own game?! Don't put the blame on a great coorperation as Arenanet!

Why would Arenanet improve the game if the only thing that happens when they ADD NEW STUFF to their games is b itching about it that it fails!?

kkthxbaibai

Why would making your own game suddenly change your opinion of another that you've already paid for? Any good company listens to community feedback. (Which is why we had Gaile/have Regina.) They want to know what people want so that they can make the game better for the majority of players.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to please the crowd of your current fanbase, but they've strayed too far from their original Guild Wars when they included titles.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

08 May 2008 at 21:26 - 52

It depends. Opinions are like assholes: everyone has one, and most of ours stink. The devs, after reading these things as long as they have, can tell a legit beef from a whining puissant.

My only issue is with idiots who don't know how to use the search option to see if their egocentric rant hasn't been covered fifty times, already. WoW vs GW, for example. I still think that search option needs to be a 48 font.

Rift

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Canada

Virtual Love [kiSu]

08 May 2008 at 21:42 - 53

The worse thing that could happen to a company would be indifference by the playerbase.

People moan because they still care about the product, or they're just trolls.

guolisong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/Me

08 May 2008 at 21:46 - 54

Mmm.. actually on the brighter side I'd end up spending more time exploring the areas like back then and actually enjoy the game because those titles are meaningless to me and majority of the titles are useless as well. But I do want a shinny wolfy emote!

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

08 May 2008 at 21:55 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Every Goshdamnd bug thats not mentiond on the carton, or the manual, I got that right when A-Net accepted my money.

No you didn't. You paid for the right to access the client.

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

W/

08 May 2008 at 22:46 - 56

If something doesnt work right, or someone doesnt like an idea, I think anet wants to hear why. But also provide a way to fix it. Just saying "This sucks!" is not constructive. Plus when someone puts an idea out there, people have the right to form their own opinion on it. This is not a dictatorship, even being the internet.

Although some sites and mods and devs seem to forget that.

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

08 May 2008 at 22:58 - 57

I didn't read the OP. I didn't read the thread. I'm responding to only the question in the title because I'm lazy.

This is an online game, Anet is supposed to make their player base happy. Without a player base their is no Guild Wars.

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

09 May 2008 at 01:17 - 58

Ya but, come on this player base pushes it ..........

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

09 May 2008 at 01:39 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scar ra

Ya but, come on this player base pushes it ..........

And pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes until something breaks. Usually a game developers will.

When we pushed this hard as kids, we got punished.

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

09 May 2008 at 02:27 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshanabey2

I am no saint, and I admit I have moaned about ecto or whatever in the past. But when I think about, what gives me the right.

We are also paying customers, and therefore have vested interest in any actions or policies which impact our gaming experience. I think you might also be familiar with the concept of customer complaints.

I'll admit up-front that I didn't read the thread, or even the rest of your post. Why? Because the question of whether moaning is justified is entirely immaterial to the question of whether we have the right to do so.

Granted, complaining would be much more effective if done with our wallets instead of our mouths (something I've been advocating for, oh, years). We are, however, still free to flap our lips impotently. Asking where people get the right is shockingly asinine, frankly.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

09 May 2008 at 02:31 - 61

This has just turned into a spam thread and does not really contribute besides that to a meaningful discussion.