Zaishen Chest Title Update

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

I think that the keys we used before it was implemented should count and pls dont flame the thread saying just buy them rank 4 of the title is more than fow armor we aint all that rich.

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeds
I think that the keys we used before it was implemented should count and pls dont flame the thread saying just buy them rank 4 of the title is more than fow armor we aint all that rich.
/signed
ive used 500+ all from hb and now i have to reget all those because they wont include ones from past >< lame

even if anet wanted to implement this i doubt they recorded how many keys everyone has used so it isnt really possible

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

Anet could find it out after all they say they can get everything from every /wave to every drop we pick up.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Signed.
I'm not willing to spend 150k to get the last 150 points for rank 1.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

You'll get the retroactive key amount on the day that old chars will get Survivor

disaster422

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

But I Have A Wife And Kids[QQ]-leader

W/

/signed

If they were thinking about a title like this, and I bet they put it into development months ago they should have been recording how many keys people use. That's just not fair to say you have to start again even if you've used 200+ keys before this update. Now the hoarders and rich people can get the titles instead of the pvpers who actually EARNED their keys and used them all because they wanted to strike it rich. Don't see the point in not recording past keys.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

They didn't record it. They can't retroactively do it because there was no counter for how many times you used the z-chest (because that would require more memory from the server space). It just can't be done because they don't know how many times you used it.

Duh.

Its not because they are "discriminating" or any other conspiracy theory. They just legitamately didn't bother keeping statistics on the z-chest because they didn't forsee this title when they first added it.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

Poorly mistiming on implementing this. Look at all these people who happened to open nearly 5000++keys. If they wanted to implement it, should have done it the day they implemented the z-chest, or not do it at all.

edit: Ugh...new items = more tonics? wtf......

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

/signed


its just not fair

Though anet didnt add the faction spend for kurz/luxon that you spend on jade/amber before.

its not ever going to happen.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

HAI guys I'm gonna start another QQ thread wanna join in?

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

cgruber, i'll be glad to do so.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

/notsigned

no retroactive title for survivor/LDoA, no retroactive title for zaishen. let the flames begin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
/notsigned

no retroactive title for survivor/LDoA, no retroactive title for zaishen. let the flames begin
/flame
I spent over 800k on Zaishen Keys. Too baed for me. Probably would have r3 Zaishen. Life didn't end for me.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

No other titles were retroactive, this one is no different.

Besides, I think Hawk is right. I doubt ANet kept track of how many keys were used on different accounts.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
No other titles were retroactive, this one is no different.
Actually, the Hero title was indeed retroactive.

But the requirements for that is something they kept track of, which wouldn't be the case with Z Keys.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

Even though I did not open the z chest that many times, I think it should be retroactive since Anet did not hint about this as it just came out of the blue.
Too bad its not though and it probably never will be.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Actually, the Hero title was indeed retroactive.

But the requirements for that is something they kept track of, which wouldn't be the case with Z Keys.
I wouldn't say it was retroactive tbh. The hero title was nothing new, it was simply changing the fame system into a title.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

worst title to date, ....

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

They don't count keys, so that can't be done.

But they do count how much faction we've unlocked on our accounts...

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

/signed however I don't think Anet would be able to do this even if they wanted to.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
You'll get the retroactive key amount on the day that old chars will get Survivor
Which will also be the day when HoM Titles are made account based.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

/notsigned.

I don't like money sink titles.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

hold on one second, here,

I am not understanding something, you mean to say, you get:

Fame
key (gives you gold wepons and creme brulee)
and something else that drop in the Hall
and emote with the fame (at high level)

now you also get chest title?

all those just for doing 1 thing? play HA?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Sure, have them add my Golds I identified and PvE Chests I opened before the Titles came along too. Moreover, have them add all the Ghost-in-the-Boxes and Snowman Summoners I blew before the Party Animal track was introduced.

In other words...this isn't going to happen.

O Nuxtofulakas

O Nuxtofulakas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Did u check your closet?

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
You'll get the retroactive key amount on the day that old chars will get Survivor
/signed...now you know the feeling

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

This time it doesn't matter what people want of think.

They didn't keep track of the keys you have used so far. It's impossible to know how many keys where used.

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

(total earned balth faction/5000) * 5 added towards the zaishen title

plz i rly need

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
They don't count keys, so that can't be done.

But they do count how much faction we've unlocked on our accounts...
And how would this factor into the title? 'Cause I know I'm not the only one that used the majority of their Balth faction on getting skills for their heroes.

And Selket's idea is kinda silly...cause then you're rewarding people who've never used Balth faction to get keys.

rose of zg

rose of zg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

croatia

[CM]

Mo/

i wana pve way of farming balth factions....

something like fff .....

El Presidente

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

R/

/not signed

None of the other titles were retroactive...

Drelias Melaku

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

If it was possible, I'd /sign, but I don't think they counted. As has been suggested already, it should be based on balthazar faction instead. They keep track of that.

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
/Signed.
I'm not willing to spend 150k to get the last 150 points for rank 1.
Good you should not be buying titles, you should earn them!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
Poorly mistiming on implementing this. Look at all these people who happened to open nearly 5000++keys. If they wanted to implement it, should have done it the day they implemented the z-chest, or not do it at all.

edit: Ugh...new items = more tonics? wtf......
Yeah right, I have been PvP' ing several hours every day since the keys where introduced and reckoned I earned about 300-400 of them, so if there is some clown with 5000+ keys then they bought them before they were actually worth something to PvP'ers, now they are with this new title, so expect the good old key buying days to dry up.

There should be no credit for old keys because the PvE'ers bought most of them, as the chest drops didn't mean much to the PvP'ers so they just wanted to move them.

One thing it does point out is that Zaishen keys were undervalued, it takes an hour or so to earn enough Balthazar faction to get one, and they were selling for minutes worth of gold farming, I saw them last week going for as low as 2k. Hopefully that will now subside and the true effort put into getting a key will be understood.