Customise Zaishen Keys

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

This Zaishen title based on chest openings is just completely wrong. It should count keys received from Tolkano, but the keys should be sellable. The problem lies in bad design of the title itself. But leave keys tradeable.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

It seems like a good idea, but people will just start buying flames of balthazar.
Then it's still good game for PvE'rs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
This Zaishen title based on chest openings is just completely wrong. It should count keys received from Tolkano, but the keys should be sellable. The problem lies in bad design of the title itself. But leave keys tradeable.
They just did this so PvE can get a title and an emote that they think is cool.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?


"i thought so"

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
what use do PvP playes have for money?
The same uses that PvE players have for money.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?


"i thought so"
Most PvPers don't only PvP.

Ignorant post is ignorant.

mafia cyborg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

pve players obviously won't sign this cos its the only way they can get a emote without pvping.

truth it is unfair on those who got the keys as reward by pvping.


and the demented stuff ppl come up with as arguments to defend their positions leaves me puzzled.




"So you're the first one that gets 100 million balth faction? or 20.000 tournament reward points. Customizing them makes it even more impossible."

so instead of reducing the requirements for the title the solution is making the title buyable ?

"Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else. "


so lets make all emotes and titles buyable...who cares. cos u dont care ( as u're a pve ....) doesnt mean other ppl dont care. maybe the OP thinks the emote is to show some sort of experience in the pvp world. it would make sense.
the same reason this thread was opened should give u a clue that some ppl care.
"lets all give any title to anyone opening a gw acoRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO....it doesnt affect anyone else." it does actually...cos the title loses any meaning whatsoever.

"/obvious answer to this -> Let's customize dyes too !!"
we are talkin about an achievement title.....u r comparing apples with pears.
and i'm sure if black/white dyes dropped from zaishen chests (and they should!) pvp players wouldnt give 2 monkeys about buyin dyes from pve players.


truth is this title was created for the gladiator track and to make it available to all kind of pvp they opted at last minute for the zeishen key thing.....
creating a title which now has nothing to do with pvp at all....and actually favors pve players who have more spendable liquidity.

"It should count keys received from Tolkano."
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.


anyway i guess its too late now.
the mess is done.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?


"i thought so"
Wow, grats on maxing out your Stupidest post ever title.

1) Guild invites cost gold
2) Guest invites cost gold
3) Changing GH costs gold
4) Upgrading said GH costs gold

ANYWAY......

/not signed

Thanks to this new title, which is even more idiotic than Master Sword Keeper, I no longer have to PvE. I can PvP all day and sell the keys instead of have to set aside time for PvE farming to get what I need to fill my stupid HoM.

Xunlai Guru Agent

Xunlai Guru Agent

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

/Not singed, I don't really care if people could buy this title or not.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

/notsigned.

bad players need an emote too...

Angelica

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

Who cares?
Let them have whatever they wish this is a game and should be enjoyed if not they should try to find another game that will.
No one is forcing you to do what you do not like.

Take care.

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

W/

/notsigned. I like this easy and fun method of making money, I don't care if people can buy their titles, thats nothing new.

ID title (no one bitches about that)
Open chest title (buying keys/ lockpicks)
sweet tooth title
drunkard title


this new title shouldnt matter to anyone, but it affects those who used keys before the title came out so they are all butthurt over it.

my advice, Use preparation H to cool the burn and move on with your life.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

/not signed
I'm making so much gold off of these silly keys! Making gold while enjoying myself ftw.

I have been /zrank'ed, I just laughed an continued on... its not like it means anything

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

I have two accounts and money isn't my friend, it will take me aeons to complete this title with only +/- 30 keys from the predictions.
Making them costomized is not the answer let people buy their titles, sweettooth, drunkard, party animal.
It still requires a lot of effort getting the money for it.

Mini Masher

Mini Masher

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

[pink]

W/

/not signed

Most titles can be purchased in one way or another anyway.

Krill

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

/not signed

I like how the price of keys doubled overnight and how they are now very easy to sell. I have a lot of new stuff thanks to this new title.

The idea of making titles forced to be earned is nice, but every title has been tainted by desperate wannabes and there's no fixing them all.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

/notsigned.

It's easy money selling them. I don't care what other people do to get a title.

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

W/

/not signed

lol u kidding? why not customize every drops? weapons, sweets, party animal, alcohol, tomes?

n r12 is already pretty much impossible.. if keys get customized this title would truly become impossible. gl farmin 100mil balta factions..

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Um...

question: what use do PvP playes have for money?


"i thought so"
Since this thread was bumped, I'll take a shit on this guy too.

question: what use do PvE players have for money?

"I thought so"

owned.

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

dude your idea fails at a certain point. Its impossible to gain that much of faction or tournament reward. Only people who care about those titltes(which are a verly little ratio player that have money). Its totally impossible to gain that much point or faction

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

/ Not signed

As mentioned pvp need gold to do things like equip guild halls, invite new members, etc.. It would defiantly put a small or starting guild at a disadvantage.

Quick question: I don't know much about pvp but before Z-keys was there a way for PvP to get gold?

Revan Bastille

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ebon Hawk

Blood of the Martyr [Hope]

E/Me

/notsigned

If ppl want to spend their gold on this title (or any other), why shouldn't they be able to?

However I think that the Zaishen title should be based on the total amount of Balthazar faction that a person has earned ... since the beginning of the game. In my humble opinion, it's not fair to the people who have played 3 years of PvP to basically have to start from scratch for the title.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

Why the hell would you need to customize zkeys? You either sell them or use them, and either way, what would be the point?

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

/notsigned

Making it impossible to buy a title after a number of people have already done so is the worst sort of idiocy.

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

W/

Still a bad suggestion a week later.

JAK3US

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

I read the title and laughed.

I read OP's post and laughed even harder.

/not signed

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

May aswell customize every HoH weapon that drops, every booze and sweets dropped for the player, nvm that let's customize everything

/sarcasm off

/Notsigned

Thread may aswell be closed this will go nowhere.

- Ganni

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

/not signed

I reckon that the zaishen title should have been something different. The zaishen are an order dedicated to battle right? Not an order of locksmiths or something right? So not sure why you'd be more respected by the zaishen for opening chests rather than winning battles.

But the title's in and unlikely to be changed much. And as such, if people want to buy a pve emote, as long as they are willing to pay me plat for keys, I don't see the bad. Let them choose how they spend their money, and me how I spend my keys. Plus, it's not like it's an easy buy. Paying for the full title's damn expensive, and if they're willing to dump that much cash into it, well, I got to give some respects for dedication. I know I'd wince looking at a cost like that.

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

E/

/notsigned who cares if they want to buy a title? All you're doing is killing the Z-keys market. You're hurting everyone and helping no one.

Nodakim

Nodakim

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Hrvatska

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Too late. I already know people with rank 7 of the new z-title. You can't stop the flood. It'd be unfair to people who get it the "legitamate" way after the change.
i think it will be pretty much inpossible to reach the max rank for ordinary mortals

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

/notsigned for the reason of it being pointless.

Why not let people waste their money on it? :P It's a way for pvpers to get some money so they can get the nice skinned weps aswell.

MAnderson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

/nosigned I like my sweet, sweet lioncash >:3

xxDEEDSxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

i say no and not only for the fact that i sell my keys but for people who arnt good at pvp it would make it so they couldnt get the title which Imo..i dont see as fair, for the alliance titles even people who arnt good at AB can still get the title through diffrent pve means (FFF, Quests, ect..)

Sethellington

Sethellington

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

nn

N/

its sad that all GW boils down to now is title hunting.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sethellington
its sad that all GW boils down to now is title hunting.
What else is left for someone who has been playing since it debuted?

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

Not signed, this makes pvp'ers earn money while pvp'ing, more pvp/less farming for fancy items = better pvp play.

Barrett

Barrett

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

W/

/notsigned

u may aswell suggest
We Make Lockpicks Customizable Now becuase ppl can HM farm and sell the keys and open chests in fow and sometimes retain keys

no no no no NO!

SpotJorge

SpotJorge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Temple Of Love

R/E

not/signet

I only see one solution for stop this crap Threads

- costumize everything including the money
- nerf ursan
- nerf touchers
- nerf everything the guys ask

only make shure that the owners of this threads cant buy gw2 maybe then whe can surf forum and find interesting threads

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

/notsigned

I like to sell mine, some players pay a decent amount of gold for it which I can use for other purposes.

Phenixfire

Phenixfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Malice Dedication Ambition [MAD]

Mo/

/signed for customized ecto drops

/you fail

/*end troll*

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

This would have been a good idea when the title game out, or even when the keys came out.

Not anymore.

/notsigned