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HawaiiGamer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Desolation Lords [DL]

09 May 2008 at 13:59 - 1

With all the work, time and money involved in reaching tier 6 "God Walking Among Mere Mortals" I think it should provide something a little more distinguishable for that character.

While you are in a town or outpost your character should;
1. Character Aura: You should glow just like a boss.
2. Float: Just like a mursaat.

I think either of these ideas would raise TONS of interest in achieving this title and (more importantly) keep people playing.

This idea could also be implemented on other titles which has probably been covered but I'll address here anyway. These ideas would go for maxed titles only.

1. Drunkard: Always gain skill bonus for being drunk when applicable.
2. Sweet Tooth: Always have speed boost when in town or outpost.
3. Master of the North: When selected, provides appropriate area bonus regardless of what EotN zone you're in (Vanguard bonus when in Vanguard areas, Asuran bonus when in Asuran areas, ect.).
4. Wisdom: Ability to identify items without an ID kit.
5. Allegiance: Provides damage reduction when in kurzik/luxon areas, or... reduced prices from kurzik/luxon merchants, or my favorite... access to town ownership merchants in respective areas (Think about it, if you were r12 Kurzik/Luxon, don't you think you would be extended this courtesy if this world was real?).

Anyway, these are just a few ideas I had. I'd love to hear your ideas!

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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09 May 2008 at 14:03 - 2

...
maybe the aura...
but the rest is just completely dumb...
/notsigned

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

09 May 2008 at 14:05 - 3

Titles don't deserve e-peen boosts.

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

09 May 2008 at 14:06 - 4

Read my post:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=14

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

09 May 2008 at 14:09 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

Titles don't deserve e-peen boosts.

Yes, MOST titles don't need e-peen boosts, but titles like KoBD, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter do, as they are the most time-consuming titles. The GW system is currrently clearly biased towards PvP players who receive emote for ANY kind of title introduced.

AND please limit the PvP emotes in PvP areas! I don't want someone flashing their tiger at me unless I can flash my 'Dragon' (For Wisdom, just a suggestion) at them!

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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09 May 2008 at 14:11 - 6

the guys with their /rank feel threatened cuz PvE'ers get titles too

HawaiiGamer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Desolation Lords [DL]

09 May 2008 at 14:12 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

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maybe the aura...
but the rest is just completely dumb...
/notsigned

Dumb because you don't have any of those titles? Why are the ideas dumb?

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Titles don't deserve e-peen boosts.

Why have titles at all? Aren't titles nothing more than e-peen displays?

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Originally Posted by mage767

Read my post:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=14

Emotes would also be something worth while and pretty cool.

I thought the aura idea would take the least amount of effort by the devs since everything is already ingame, they'd just have to turn it on.

puffzilla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

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09 May 2008 at 14:13 - 8

/signed.

This should be a reasonable request. It would also be a nice touch for a KoaBD rank spike.

I'd also think it would be cool if they added "My other char is a GWOMM" title to the account after you've gotten it on one

Just having all the bonus (GWEN and LB) activate when GWOMM is active too would be a really nice touch. Never forget to readd the title anymore

Their affects only work in the areas anyways.

Like the idea of the Faction titles. It might almost motivate me to work on that title track again

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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09 May 2008 at 14:17 - 9

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Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

Dumb because you don't have any of those titles? Why are the ideas dumb?

excuse me?
my ele has R1 KoabD with 6 titles maxed and soon 7 ^.~
don't think i call your ideas dumb cuz i don't have any of the titles

puffzilla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

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09 May 2008 at 14:21 - 10

You have to admit rewarding people that spent 1500 hours+ on a titles should have a few perks before GW2. Think it would be a nice touch.

Doc Zenith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

09 May 2008 at 14:21 - 11

/signed........

Mystica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Germany

[金金金金]

Me/W

09 May 2008 at 14:24 - 12

"3. Master of the North: When selected, provides appropriate area bonus regardless of what EotN zone you're in (Vanguard bonus when in Vanguard areas, Asuran bonus when in Asuran areas, ect.)."

Would sign that if it is only available once you have the EotN titles maxed or if it gives you the bonus equivalent to the rank you have for the specific area title. Just cause I am lazy.

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Originally Posted by mage767

The GW system is currrently clearly biased towards PvP players who receive emote for ANY kind of title introduced.

QFT...a lot of truth! You should have capitalized the "clearly" too, next to the "any" to include more fun/fail.

Let's count.

1) Hero
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

Without counting the Zaishen title which is a cash title (how many PvP players have reached 100.000.000 balth faction compared to the amount of players that reached 50 mil gold? And the Zaishen Challenges are PvE aswell so don't call it a PvP only title.) there is a total of 10 PvP titles that have an emote. Unfortunatly 9 of them do not exist.

I can CLEARLY see how PvP players receive emotes for ANY title.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

09 May 2008 at 14:25 - 13

Getting existing PvE players to play more PvE is not how this game works. GWAMM being the title for unrepentant GW drones, their reward should be reduced rewards from the game, so they log out more and free up some server resources for the overwhelming majority of casual players.

tyrant rex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

09 May 2008 at 14:27 - 14

mabey if pve wasnt repetitive grind v ai with the same skill bars it might deserve an emote intill then nice joke

Day Trooper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild With No [NAM???]

E/Mo

09 May 2008 at 14:30 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

With all the work, time and money involved in reaching tier 6 "God Walking Among Mere Mortals" I think it should provide something a little more distinguishable for that character.

No kidding lol. And with the advent of the Zaishen 'buy-an-emote' title I think it's about time r6 KoaBD also gets a unique emote.

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Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

While you are in a town or outpost your character should;

1. Character Aura: You should glow just like a boss.
2. Float: Just like a mursaat.

Way back I also thought about the 'glow' thing too. My biggest gripe about the current title system is it's difficult to distinguish all the titles peeps are displaying (especially in highly populated outposts like Kamadan). This would be a quick way to make that distinction.

Also, the maxed title of any given track should be a different color (gold?) Again, this would be a quick way to see whether or not the title you're viewing is max or not.

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Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

I think either of these ideas would raise TONS of interest in achieving this title and (more importantly) keep people playing.

Spot on. I am going for r6 KoaBD and I know this would definitely give me something a little extra to look forward to once I get there. And I'm sure others would have added incentive to reach God-status as well if there were a cool emote waiting for them there at the end.

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Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

This idea could also be implemented on other titles which has probably been covered but I'll address here anyway. These ideas would go for maxed titles only.

1. Drunkard: Always gain skill bonus for being drunk when applicable.
2. Sweet Tooth: Always have speed boost when in town or outpost.
3. Master of the North: When selected, provides appropriate area bonus regardless of what EotN zone you're in (Vanguard bonus when in Vanguard areas, Asuran bonus when in Asuran areas, ect.).
4. Wisdom: Ability to identify items without an ID kit.
5. Allegiance: Provides damage reduction when in kurzik/luxon areas, or... reduced prices from kurzik/luxon merchants, or my favorite... access to town ownership merchants in respective areas (Think about it, if you were r12 Kurzik/Luxon, don't you think you would be extended this courtesy if this world was real?).

While I like these ideas as well (a lot actually), I think we need to go with 'baby steps' here and hope ANet will focus on the max KoaBD emote.

oh, and /signed

HawaiiGamer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Desolation Lords [DL]

09 May 2008 at 14:31 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrant rex

mabey if pve wasnt repetitive grind v ai with the same skill bars it might deserve an emote intill then nice joke

/sarcasm
Yeah, PvP > PvE. What was I thinking?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

09 May 2008 at 14:34 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mage767

Yes, MOST titles don't need e-peen boosts, but titles like KoBD, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter do, as they are the most time-consuming titles.

Congratulations. You just made me lol irl. Why should time spent be catered towards?

Quote:

The GW system is currrently clearly biased towards PvP players who receive emote for ANY kind of title introduced.

The only PvP title that has an emote is the Hero title, which has the emote only because there were no titles during Proph only.

And it shouldn't take long to Sway your bambi.

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AND please limit the PvP emotes in PvP areas! I don't want someone flashing their tiger at me unless I can flash my 'Dragon' (For Wisdom, just a suggestion) at them!

BETTER IDEA! Remove the Hero title's /Rank. At the same time remove the Zaishen title's /Rank.

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Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

Why have titles at all? Aren't titles nothing more than e-peen displays?

For the sense of accomplishment in the task you've done. I don't wear my titles at all but I still aim towards them for the sense of accomplishment.

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

09 May 2008 at 14:38 - 18

Tyla's post has my 100% agreement. Kill the emotes please.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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09 May 2008 at 14:48 - 19

0. I could agree with emotes, but not that.

1. Drunkard: I would agree with increased duration of drunkenness(Drunk more time drinking less), but not what you said.
2. Sweet Tooth: I would agree with increased duration of sweet rushes(Rush more time eating less), but not what you said.
3. Master of the North: This is an ACHIEVEMENT title, not a grind one. It is a reward by itself.
4. Wisdom: It already has benefits: Salvage bonus.
5. Allegiance: It already has benefits: Allegiance PvE Skill improvement.

HawaiiGamer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Desolation Lords [DL]

09 May 2008 at 15:05 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

0. I could agree with emotes, but not that.

I think emotes would upset the PvPers and their monopoly of emotes. An aura would be more PvE based since there aren't any bosses in the PvP realm.

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1. Drunkard: I would agree with increased duration of drunkenness(Drunk more time drinking less), but not what you said.

Your suggestion would be unfair to those that have already maxed drunkard. my idea would benefit past as well as future max drunkards without exclusion.

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2. Sweet Tooth: I would agree with increased duration of sweet rushes(Rush more time eating less), but not what you said.

Same as #2.

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3. Master of the North: This is an ACHIEVEMENT title, not a grind one. It is a reward by itself.

I don't see how my suggestion is less substantial.

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4. Wisdom: It already has benefits: Salvage bonus.

I like my idea better especially since perfect salvage kits are now available.

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5. Allegiance: It already has benefits: Allegiance PvE Skill improvement.

Aside from SYS (which does not gain a bonus after r11) the kurzik/luxon skills are... okay. And given the effort necessary to reach r12, skill upgrade is hardly and adequate trophy, imo.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

09 May 2008 at 15:12 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

I think emotes would upset the PvPers and their monopoly of emotes. An aura would be more PvE based since there aren't any bosses in the PvP realm.

There is only 1 PvP emote, and I would be happier to see that removed than another one implimented.

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Your suggestion would be unfair to those that have already maxed drunkard. my idea would benefit past as well as future max drunkards without exclusion.

Like it was unfair to the people spending craploads on Zaishen Keys before the title?
Especially when alot of the drops were wank.

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I don't see how my suggestion is less substantial.

And I don't see what's hard about pressing "H", clicking the title for the area.

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Aside from SYS (which does not gain a bonus after r11) the kurzik/luxon skills are... okay. And given the effort necessary to reach r12, skill upgrade is hardly and adequate trophy, imo.

SY is worth grinding to R12 with it's defensive power.
It's the strongest skill in the game next to Ursan.

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

09 May 2008 at 15:13 - 22

Another tarded thread with a subtitle "hey, let's rape skill over time and see what happens".

Pesi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Droknars Forge

No Goats No Glory

Me/

09 May 2008 at 15:14 - 23

Quote:

don't you think you would be extended this courtesy if this world was real?)

u play too much?

tyrant rex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

09 May 2008 at 15:27 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

/sarcasm
Yeah, PvP > PvE. What was I thinking?

intill monster learn to move around corners and have changing skill bars i think pvp>pve by far in terms of challenge lets face it so called elite pve areas are just cspace foder to ursans or whatever solo build people run and the majority of pve titles are just grindddd

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

09 May 2008 at 16:22 - 25

i can sign to a Character aura only, when our characters get something unique looking and not this ugly as hell boss aura crap, where our bodies would simple glow then only in our professions color. Would be somewhat of super ugly.

No, when, then some really cool animated Character Auras with like floating spinning circles, bubbles around ect. pp and similar things around your body, while a seeable pile of power streams up from the ground.

An Aura, similar to Dragonball Z would be cool, which has also an awesome sound effect, letting it hear you, when someone with an increadible aura is near you, so that you get really recognized.

otherwise I'm still therefore, that GWAMM should receive nearly exactly the same emotes, as the Hero title, so that PVE players will never be again forced to play PvP for the Hero Emotes, when anet stays to be so lazy to give PvE'ers alternative ways to gain Fame Points, beside playing PvP and holdign the HA ..., only with the difference, that the pve version is slightly brighter or so, some little visual difference should be there...

for pvp-version peopel use then /emote, for pve brighter version of GWAMM then /emote2 ... or /emotenew a la Dances work so...

btw most awesome would be both together, similar hero emotes together with nice unique non boss looking Character Full Body Aura with the style of DBZ yeah and float like a Mursaat would make all that even look bettern then, slightly over the ground, but all that only in towns and also limited to like max x persons, like Minipets are limited per district too

http://www.clipfish.de/player.php?vi...YwNzJ8NDQ2NTcy

PS. only without such a silly Hair Change naturally XD

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

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09 May 2008 at 16:33 - 26

The Aura would be neat, but the rest just stupid. Titles are ment to show a accomplish that you have done, Not to get extra benfits.

/notsigned.

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

09 May 2008 at 16:46 - 27

care more about titles?
emotes are stupid, just face it.

Mystica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Germany

[金金金金]

Me/W

09 May 2008 at 16:47 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

i can sign to a Character aura only, when our characters get something unique looking and not this ugly as hell boss aura crap, where our bodies would simple glow then only in our professions color. Would be somewhat of super ugly.

No, when, then some really cool animated Character Auras with like floating spinning circles, bubbles around ect. pp and similar things around your body, while a seeable pile of power streams up from the ground.

An Aura, similar to Dragonball Z would be cool, which has also an awesome sound effect, letting it hear you, when someone with an increadible aura is near you, so that you get really recognized.

otherwise I'm still therefore, that GWAMM should receive nearly exactly the same emotes, as the Hero title, so that PVE players will never be again forced to play PvP for the Hero Emotes, when anet stays to be so lazy to give PvE'ers alternative ways to gain Fame Points, beside playing PvP and holdign the HA ..., only with the difference, that the pve version is slightly brighter or so, some little visual difference should be there...

for pvp-version peopel use then /emote, for pve brighter version of GWAMM then /emote2 ... or /emotenew a la Dances work so...

btw most awesome would be both together, similar hero emotes together with nice unique non boss looking Character Full Body Aura with the style of DBZ yeah and float like a Mursaat would make all that even look bettern then, slightly over the ground, but all that only in towns and also limited to like max x persons, like Minipets are limited per district too

http://www.clipfish.de/player.php?vi...YwNzJ8NDQ2NTcy

PS. only without such a silly Hair Change naturally XD

...

More please. MORE!

Someone suggests an emote and it ends with a player having a glowing aura that has sound effects while the player floats threw outposts in double speed displaying his golden title.

What's next? KoaBD triggering the /bow or /kneel command on all players you walk by so they can praise your supreme grindness?

I have commented your fame for PvE idea once so I'll just link you:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=75

oliverrr1989

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

Lore of Mythos [Myth]

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09 May 2008 at 16:50 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

While you are in a town or outpost your character should;
1. Character Aura: You should glow just like a boss.
2. Float: Just like a mursaat.

Just...no. It's bad enough that people can waste so many hours of their precious lives on something so pointless and turn a game which should be fun into a grinding chore. They should not be encouraged.

Noel Hope

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

America

[SBP]

Mo/

09 May 2008 at 17:08 - 30

Titles are worthless and as such do not deserve special emotes/effects.

/notsigned

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

09 May 2008 at 17:23 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noel Hope

Titles are worthless and as such do not deserve special emotes/effects.

/notsigned

What is for you worthless, is for someone other not, don't be so superficial

Sir Owns Alot EP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

[Town]

P/W

09 May 2008 at 17:35 - 32

Titles should have never been introduced into the game in the first place, they have driven most of the community into repetitive farming and absolutely pointless acts simply to get a few words under your name. Any act encouraging the spread of titles goes against the founding principal of GW, skill>time.

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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09 May 2008 at 17:41 - 33

/notsigned for any boostgiven by titles. All they should be is some pretty words underneath your name, nothing else.

Tyla <3

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

09 May 2008 at 17:49 - 34

/not signed.

Mindless title grinding shoud not be rewarded.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

09 May 2008 at 19:06 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiGamer

I think emotes would upset the PvPers and their monopoly of emotes. An aura would be more PvE based since there aren't any bosses in the PvP realm.

PvP and PvE get different things and there's always someone getting upset all the time, that won't change. No matter what you do.

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Your suggestion would be unfair to those that have already maxed drunkard. my idea would benefit past as well as future max drunkards without exclusion.

NO. It would be completely FAIR. If someone spent a lot of time buying alcohol, he deserves to use the 'drunken' PvE skills for less, but not for free.

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Same as #2.

Two words: Dragon NEST. They may deserve to have better effects, but not having rushes for free. Not 25%, nor 33% neither 50% movement speeds. To get a sugar rush, you use an item. It's like PvE titles, they may have or may have not title effect, but they always increase skill power. The skills for the sweet tooth title are the sugar rushes.

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I don't see how my suggestion is less substantial.

It would be like giving a title for Protecto, Guardian, Carthogapher, etc.
Master of the North is an amalgan of those titles. They are achievement titles, and their reward is themselves and the HoM statue.

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I like my idea better especially since perfect salvage kits are now available.

Treasure hunter has two benefits, lucky has one. Wisdom, Treasure and Luck/Unlucky are similar, so they should work the same. Giving Wisdom a second benefit would require Lucky to have a second benefit too (Unlucky would be left out, since it's all about NOT having luck). But identification kits are gold sinks, they are not to be removed. Maybe increased used in ID kits bought, or chances to keep item uses when using a kit, but nothing completely free. Only chances.

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Aside from SYS (which does not gain a bonus after r11) the kurzik/luxon skills are... okay. And given the effort necessary to reach r12, skill upgrade is hardly and adequate trophy, imo.

I forgot. The Alligance titles HAVE an effect. It's called the Kurzick/Luxon blessing. It gives +3 regen and +25 HP, but it's part of the bounty priests give. Also, people can bribe the priests and get BOTH blessings, being able to have +6 regen and +50HP.
I would agree to separate the bounty and the title effect, so people is able activate to have one single title at the same time. Both would give +1..3 HP and +5..60HP when under inside Kurzick/Luxon borders (those visible in the map) and during all Kurzick/Luxon cooperative missions and challenges, but not in AB and competitive missions. Of course, they would work only if you alliegance of that faction is higher than the other.

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

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09 May 2008 at 21:11 - 36

I'll go along with the first suggestion; however, not for the rest (Drunken, etc.)...

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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09 May 2008 at 22:19 - 37

I agree with your Drunkard and LMotN suggestions. I could even agree with your suggestion of an aura or floating in towns.

But the suggestions for the other three titles don't fly. The ones I approved are purely cosmetic. Those aren't.

btw, isn't there already a thread for this?