Charr Sword Coppied?

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If this is just coincidence... wow. Wonder who borrowed the other team's work

http://www.lineage2.com/pds/show_org...res_item2.html

Zinger314

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Obviously, NCSoft should sue NCSoft.

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What about the Destroyer Weapons?

*ahem*Deadric Weapons from Oblivion*ahem*

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Obviously, NCSoft should sue NCSoft.
Yes I realize that NCSoft is ALL POWERFUL, but I still find it kind of cool. Lineage 2 and GuildWars are just two incredibly different games with different are styles. Honestly, I'm not surprised that the concept art for a sword in guild wars was found on the lineage 2 site. The sword just seemed too different from any other weapons we have in GW.

Esan

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That's not all. I hear GW uses human avatars, just like Lineage 2. What a blatant ripoff!

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Originally Posted by Esan
That's not all. I hear GW uses human avatars, just like Lineage 2. What a blatant ripoff!
I know! I can't believe it. They practically stole all ideas from other NCSoft games!!!

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The only question is, WHAT CAME FIRST! The Lineage or the guild wars?

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That's odd... too specific a model to say it's not a copy.

Celestial_Kitsune

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The swords do look quite similar. I wonder who the artists are.



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Nice find Kitsune =)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
What about the Destroyer Weapons?

*ahem*Deadric Weapons from Oblivion*ahem*
Eegh... there is no way Daedric weapons look that horrible

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It's probably just a nod to/easter egg for Lineage 2 players (hey I got that sword! It cost me 100 mil Adena! Or whatever..). Would indeed be nice to see more cameo's like this.

(Put Rurik/Glint/Kuunavang/Shiro in Aion!)

Btw, Aion looks entirely awesome...

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Wow, its almost copy paste.....

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The one in the middle is a gilded edge and the opposite side of the charr blade a legde sword, no?

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awesome i hope gw uses lineage armor next cuz tbh the armor in that game is better.

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Yeah, would be cool to see other things like this. Guild wars has great art, no doubt about that, but L2 has some of the best looking weps imo. If we could get a dragonslayer (look at weapons part on library in their site) that is the same size as it is in L2...

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[QUOTE=Weird A]The only question is, WHAT CAME FIRST! The Lineage or the guild wars?[/QUOTE

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lots of other weapons copied too. i can see stygian being inspired by the first ax, break hammer by the hammer, and a gothic ax by 2nd ax

JR

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Lineage is an NCSoft game. It is not surprising that they have shared resources somewhat.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Eegh... there is no way Daedric weapons look that horrible
Destroyer Weapons are ArenaNet-ified Daedric Weapons.

They took a good thing, copied it, and then ruined it

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Lineage is an NCSoft game. It is not surprising that they have shared resources somewhat.
True. Is there a chance that it was the same artist and he/she just embellished on his/her original work? Either way, it saves time and monetary resources for other projects, etc.

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The L2 art is much older then the Charr sword. That concept art is from the L2 launch.

I don't believe the "Charr Sword" is currently in L2 (they don't have it in the weapon list on their site), though I have some vague memories that it used to be one of the higher end 2h swords, back when that middle red sword was the only S grade weapon, and had no drop points. Disclaimer: haven't played L2 in a looong time.

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lots of other weapons copied too. i can see stygian being inspired by the first ax, break hammer by the hammer, and a gothic ax by 2nd ax
Umm...not really? They may have the same general shape as the weapons your talking about, but there's only so many shapes a weapon can have and still be an axe/hammer/sword/what-have-you. The Charr sword is the same right down to the pattern of the lines on the blade.

JR

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http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Charr_Sword

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Trivia
This item appears as a concept sketch on the Lineage 2 website (another NCsoft game).

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i can see the runic blade in there too

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune
The swords do look quite similar. I wonder who the artists are.




QUITE SIMILAR? THEYRE THE SAME -_--

IlikeGW

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Lineage is an NCSoft game. It is not surprising that they have shared resources somewhat.
Not really, NCSoft is just a publisher and their devs don't sit around swapping content. Maybe the artist who designed it and never used it for L2, changed jobs and decided to use it for GW though. Or maybe someone ripped off the design lol.

viper11025

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Yo, same company. I'd expect copies.

Mark Nevermiss

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Only the daggers from the concept art image above actually made into the Lineage 2 game. None of the swords did.
If that sword had made it into Lineage 2 it would have been a 2 handed sword by the way.

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Wtb The middle sword in GW tbh

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Nooo!!! Do not call their attention to this. Before you know it, they will do things like the enchanting of swords for multipliers, the augmenting of weapons for bonuses. (nothing better than a paralyze augment on a weapon)

On a side note, L2 is really, really fun. Not that I have ever played it on an official server. (wink wink knudge knudge say-no-more say-no-more)

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The gold dagger kind of looks like the dagger of time from PoP: Sot.

But man that orange/red(whatever it is) sword looks sweet.

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love to have these for my paragon,

hrmz or maybe a new class that uses a staff not for casting but for fightning, short and long ones, joint ones

Sleeper Service

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the middle one with the addition of a little "magma" texturing would have made an excellent Destroyer sword imo....

N1ghtstalker

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune
The swords do look quite similar. I wonder who the artists are.



check the lines on the charr sword and the lower sword of the lineage pic
they are exactly the same ^.~

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well how many things can you do with a sword, i'd say some were copied but if you look at other games you'll also find some similarities i'd assume.

MoriaOrc

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Found an in-game of that sword, guess it was the old model for the Dragon Slayer (A Grade 2h sword) back in C1.

For comparison:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by maraxusofk


lots of other weapons copied too. i can see stygian being inspired by the first ax, break hammer by the hammer, and a gothic ax by 2nd ax
The deldrimor hammer looks way more inspired by that hammer than a break hammer.

JR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IlikeGW
Not really, NCSoft is just a publisher and their devs don't sit around swapping content. Maybe the artist who designed it and never used it for L2, changed jobs and decided to use it for GW though. Or maybe someone ripped off the design lol.
NCSoft owns ArenaNet. There is no way that an ArenaNet artist would have used that design without first asking permission.

MoriaOrc

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
NCSoft owns ArenaNet. There is no way that an ArenaNet artist would have used that design without first asking permission.
There's a little similarity if you spend some time stretching certain parts around and make some tweaks to the middle area.

I think it's obvious the Charr sword is based off the same concept art, and as a result a lot of people are seeing similarites that are more likely the result of weapons of the same type (hammers, axes, swords) having certain general shapes that recur across most games with more then a few different designs.

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I want something similar to glass weapons from Morrowind. esp daggers for my sin.

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